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Eldred
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Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +360.54...

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with experience...
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You definitely have a system problem if you often get a pretty poor frame
rate but get a quick frame rate at other times. I spent around 5-6 hours
driving Japan before the race this weekend and it was always fast, in
race, in practice or anywhere. The only time I get glitches is on the
first lap - presumably because textures are being loaded - even then they
were not serious and didn't reoccur. I also saw this behaviour with
f1cs2k.

Also I don't run in a window, don't use fraps or anything like that.

My box is A7V  - Duron 700 oced to 950, Geforce GTS 2 64MB, 512MB ram,
1280x1024x16 2x2 antialiased.

I did however have absolutely ***perforamnce in 32bit and really really
bad performance with the 21.xx drivers I was useing. The 12.41's work fine
for me.

I run the high res***pit. In fact I have full detail everywhere.

This is configurable if you want that. In fact from the .ini files it
looks like you can fiddle with your field of view if you want to be able
to see corners better.

I have seen this vary - I have driven at very high speed on the grass -
steering gently - but I would have had a LOT of downforce. I thought this
was strange - on the other hand lower speed excursions into the grass were
more dramatic. This is probably a bug but is an imperfection that doesn't
bother me much since the rest of the game is so good.

Hmm - I don't know what game you are playing really. From this comment it
sounds like you have the other car's detail turned down.

If you think it is slower than GP3 you have a serious problem that I don't
have. I get a better framerate with F1-2001 than with GP3 - and I am
running F1-2001 at a higher resolution.

If you had a fast system I would recommend you turn up the LOD to about
3.00 as was mentioned elsewhere in this group - that will stop the level
of detail 'popping' happening when the cars are still close to you.
However if you are seeing choppyness this will only make it worse.

If you think the game is arcadey you have a serious problem with your
system. The physics engine feels just marvelous. Finally I have an F1 game
where I can drive like Montoya (well - be loose without losing it - I have
had so much fun just holding on to the car when I go a little bit wide on
a corner. The slides you can get into are awesome.)

I wonder if I can replicate that horrible crash Servia (Serbia?) had at
Laguna Seca this week?

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Bill

Interesting - as I mentioned I don't see your symptoms but I DO have the
HUD and broadcast style graphics turned off (I don't like them - but I
don't remember seeing a framerate cost). Try
playing it without them.

Also do you have a 64MB graphics card or a 32MB one. Perhaps if you have
a 32MB graphics card you are doing texture paging over AGP which is evil.

It's Monaco Eldred, it's supposed to be difficult :)
But yes, some corners are hard to judge, but you get used to it after
some practice. There is a way to raise the***pit view so you can see
the corners better, but I haven't tried that yet.

Andre

Yes, good observation.  The first lap is a little jerky on my 64Mb MX400 but
the second lap is better.

Eldred
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Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
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you could drive through grass at 200 mph !!
that is realistic , so long as you dont try to steer
while you are on grass.

THE MOMENTUM  BEFORE going in to grass
should carry you through.....

what is this ???
did you ever drive a car or a rally car before ??
no?
well , then why are you talking as if you have some
experience ????

believe that grass has
doesnt slow you down! It
but not in F12001.  I
straight back onto the track

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Gunnar
    #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo: 2
                          DE RECTIS NON TOLERANDUM EST

Of course - what's your point?

Exactly.  And this is where the game engine fails.  I have done some amateur
racing on tarmac and have had the unfortunate experience of running wide
onto the grass.  Needless to say, it didn't feel anything like how it feels
in 2K1.  Maybe this is the reason I have a personal interest in the issue.

--
Gunnar
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                    to err is human -- to forgive is bovine.

And by the way; shouldn't you be busying yourself with Runge-Kutta coding for MGI's new 600mhz physics engine?  ;-)

SB

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Maybe we could bet on the different theories and raffle off a stuffed zebra or something.

with ignorant speculation.  But what the hey; put me down
for MGI's new 600mhz physics engine?  ;-)