rec.autos.simulators

>>>I was disappointed by the graphics to start with, but I actually
>>>reckon now that I can get a pretty much identical frame rate with
>>>slightly _more_ graphics options on in GP2!
>>Ya, strangely, I've noticed the same thing on my machine. GP2 has a
>>faster graphics engine.
>  I'm not sure about this.  I can run ICR2 with 30fps, VGA, all
>details on 25 cars drawn ahead, 7 heard - Smooth on starts (starting
>in the back of the pack).  On all tracks.
>  I got no textures on track, grass and sky.  Ttrack, verges and curbs
>in the mirror, no textures.  Starting at the back of the pack in
>Hungary, with a 25 fps, I get an occupacy of 140%!
>  Doesn't this mean the ICR2 graphics engine is MUCH, MUCH faster
>(prolly more optimized) than GP2?
>  BTW, got a p166, 16EDO, 512k pb, DS64 2DRAM.
>>Indycar needs the same kind of sim. ICR2 is good, but let's face it-
>>it is flawed, and we already know that a) Sierra has no intentions of
>>finishing it, and b) Sierra isn't interested in pursuing any more Indy
>>projects. We'll never get a real "patch", much less ever *CURBS* in
>>there!
>  Yes.  But when you look at Indy tracks, they do not have that many
>curbs compared to F1 tracks.  Every F1 track has curbs.  In Indy, not
>all the tracks have curbs.  I could be wrong though...
>>Result:  the games are making fans. Ditto. I've gotten 3 people to buy
>>GP2 who otherwise couldn't sit and watch an F1 race to save their
>>lives. Now they're all in to it.
>  Unfortunatelly, from my experience, 90% of all those newbies are
>more interested in crashing AI, than racing the AI. :(
>>at it. Papyrus certainly knew how to make a sim, but they were always
>>a bit rough on the edges. Geoff Crammond seems to have learned the
>>trick of making a real sim, and also knows how to get the "superficial
>>details" right so the package doesn't just work for obsessed sim fans
>>(like me).
>  The graphics in GP2 aren't that great.  When you look at all the
>trees in Hungary, Hockenheim, Monza, etc., it all looks like it's
>painted on a wall.  No 3d what's so ever.  A few trees do have a 3d
>effect type-a-deal.  But there is a LOT of trees "painted" on the
>wall.
>   One other thing.  I don't know if someone else found out about
>this.  When I race (either GP2 or ICR2 - doesn't matter) I look far
>ahead.  I.e., entering a corner, I look for the exit, that way I can
>locate the apex better and find faster ways exitting the turn.  That's
>the way how I used to do it in go karts.  For some reason, with a lot
>of details on, my eyes kinda start hurting.  Obviously, real thing
>isn't the same as the sims.  I tried putting less track side details
>on the screen and it's a little bit better.  Anyone else?  Or is it
>just me...
>Dave.

>Are you getting such poor frame rates at your Hungary start because of
>the smoke? That smoke is an absolute killer at the begginning of races