rec.autos.simulators

>> why would ISI issue a c&d on a mod for its own game?

> Simple : to protect their own assets.

> Just like iRacing did on their own game (well owning the code for it,
> blah). I'm absolutely sure that if somebody tries to mod something similar
> to GTL or GTR (or whatever the ISI serves next) into rFactor, they will
> get a C&D. That's why the whole modding scene for rFactor has to be taken
> with a grain of salt.  They already did it in the past.

>> 01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au>,
>> Byron Forbes says...

>>> How would you feel if a mod for rFactor was released that had all of the
>>> GTL cars, many of the tracks and drove better than GTL after you forked
>>> out
>>> for GTL? Or any mod for that matter. Do you really believe GTL will be
>>> as
>>> good as rFactor in 6 months? Or even 2 months? I'd say GTL would be
>>> lucky
>>> to
>>> be as good as rFactor even now!

>> Wouldn't particularly bother me. I doubt there will be any mods that are
>> modelled to the detail that simbin have modelled GTL. As far as I know
>> there are none currently in the pipeline so forking out for GTL is a no
>> brainer for me.

>> Cheers,
>> Rod.

>    If you're talking about graphics detail -
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/***.de/portofolio_mclaren.html

>    As far as detail of tracks/physics - just sales hype bullshit. Lets not
> forget this was the company that was telling the world all about how good
> there multi was in every magazine they could talk to - they are full of
> shit
> and it will take a lot to convince me that they're much more than just
> another arsehole company milking the sim community for every penny they
> can.
> They would tell you anything about the detail of this and that - anything
> for a sale!

>> Bryon,

>> You are living in a dream world.  What game is not hyped?  That is the
>> nature of selling it.  Show me a game or group that isn't hyping and
>> boasting about their game.  Please don't say rFactor because the game has
>> about 1/2 of the features that they said it would.  I know they say in
>> the
>> future, but do we really know they will come?  Time will tell.  I don't
>> feel misled at all by Simbin, the multi wasn't great, although I have had
>> plenty of great races with it.

>    There is hype and there are lies - anyone who looks over autosimsport
> every month would have seen that they were outright lying about the multi
> to
> games magazines and the world in general.

>    There was some idiot moderator at their forums that publically stated,
> soon after or b4 the German release, that multi was an afterthough since
> market research indicated there was not much money in that. That was the
> truth. One of the reps from Sinbin came in here disputing that that was
> said
> on their forum and I promptly pointed him to the exact post. He was
> embarrassed and claimed it was not the case - clearly it was.

>>> Bryon,

>>> You are living in a dream world.  What game is not hyped?  That is the
>>> nature of selling it.  Show me a game or group that isn't hyping and
>>> boasting about their game.  Please don't say rFactor because the game
>>> has
>>> about 1/2 of the features that they said it would.  I know they say in
>>> the
>>> future, but do we really know they will come?  Time will tell.  I don't
>>> feel misled at all by Simbin, the multi wasn't great, although I have
>>> had
>>> plenty of great races with it.

>>    There is hype and there are lies - anyone who looks over autosimsport
>> every month would have seen that they were outright lying about the multi
>> to
>> games magazines and the world in general.

>>    There was some idiot moderator at their forums that publically stated,
>> soon after or b4 the German release, that multi was an afterthough since
>> market research indicated there was not much money in that. That was the
>> truth. One of the reps from Sinbin came in here disputing that that was
>> said
>> on their forum and I promptly pointed him to the exact post. He was
>> embarrassed and claimed it was not the case - clearly it was.

> I'm much more PO'd that the N.America release of GTL isnt till next year
> ;)

> Mitch

>> And you know that the moderator spoke for Simbin?  Again, still a bit
>> much to have this much venom about a game that was really pretty damn
>> good. There are many, many GTR leagues running right now with drivers
>> from all over the world playing.  You just have to jump through some
>> hoops to get the multi working ok(I am not trying to sell the multi as
>> great).

>>>> Bryon,

>>>> You are living in a dream world.  What game is not hyped?  That is the
>>>> nature of selling it.  Show me a game or group that isn't hyping and
>>>> boasting about their game.  Please don't say rFactor because the game
>>>> has
>>>> about 1/2 of the features that they said it would.  I know they say in
>>>> the
>>>> future, but do we really know they will come?  Time will tell.  I don't
>>>> feel misled at all by Simbin, the multi wasn't great, although I have
>>>> had
>>>> plenty of great races with it.

>>>    There is hype and there are lies - anyone who looks over autosimsport
>>> every month would have seen that they were outright lying about the
>>> multi to
>>> games magazines and the world in general.

>>>    There was some idiot moderator at their forums that publically
>>> stated,
>>> soon after or b4 the German release, that multi was an afterthough since
>>> market research indicated there was not much money in that. That was the
>>> truth. One of the reps from Sinbin came in here disputing that that was
>>> said
>>> on their forum and I promptly pointed him to the exact post. He was
>>> embarrassed and claimed it was not the case - clearly it was.

>> > Sheesh, get over it. Your time isn't obviously worth much since
>> > you devote so much of it on such a pointless endeavour. If I was
>> > to do the same as you're doing to the games that I had bought that
>> > didn't appeal to me, I'd have to quit my job and become a full time
>> > nutter.

>>     No need to quit that job Rod. :)

> Indeed, you're holding up your end admirably.

>> And you know that the moderator spoke for Simbin?  Again, still a bit
>> much
>> to have this much venom about a game that was really pretty damn good.
>> There are many, many GTR leagues running right now with drivers from all
>> over the world playing.  You just have to jump through some hoops to get
>> the multi working ok(I am not trying to sell the multi as great).

>    Yes, and on the other side of those hoops is still many the pile of
> shit
> waiting for you. I didn't pay for a "jump thru hoops" sim - I was after a
> racing sim and told that's what would be delivered.

>    This forum is worthless without venom - you would deprive those not
> around back then of this info? I think you've forgotten the point of this
> place!