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Larr

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by Larr » Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:36:52

I don't know if this has come up yet, but SRT did a full iRacing preview
that's pretty darned good...

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

-Larry

Richar

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by Richar » Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:18:52


> I don't know if this has come up yet, but SRT did a full iRacing preview
> that's pretty darned good...

> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> -Larry

Is this the same youtube video that refers to South Boston as Iracings
"home track"? Iracing is based in Massachusetts not ***ia, where
South Boston is. Iracing's home track would be Lime Rock or Stafford
Springs, or perhaps New Hampshire.
JP

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by JP » Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:17:03



> > I don't know if this has come up yet, but SRT did a full iRacing preview
> > that's pretty darned good...

> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> > -Larry

> Is this the same youtube video that refers to South Boston as Iracings
> "home track"? Iracing is based in Massachusetts not ***ia, where
> South Boston is. Iracing's home track would be Lime Rock or Stafford
> Springs, or perhaps New Hampshire.

   Larry's a bit of a fanboy, well ok, a raving fanboy, so you'll have to
excuse his error.
Andrew MacPhers

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by Andrew MacPhers » Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:13:00


>  Larry's a bit of a fanboy, well ok, a raving fanboy

I think Larry, like others, is understandably enthusiastic for a product
he's been watching grow for quite a while. I can understand where his
enthusiasm comes from.

However coming to the product from the outside, with a fresh pair of eyes,
gives you a slightly different take on the product as it stands. That's
why there are legitimate differences of opinion between the ***
faithful and those who have had less time to bond with the iRacing
'child'.

I am currently torn between wanting to give this child a big hug, and
wanting to put it up for adoption wearing a black eye. I sort of enjoy
racing the Skippy... it is indeed fair to say this is the best racing
physics available to date. But the novelty of running at the back has
worn off. I'm at the stage where I really need to go offline for a few
months and practise in traffic against AI in order to sharpen my
reactions and improve lap times. But that's not an option, and ***
with other people's SR isn't fair.

So I remain torn between my head and my heart. My heart says I want to
keep racing. He head says take a break for a few months and come back
after Christmas when there might be a bigger pool of talentless Skippy
drivers to race against. Racing against the talented ones is no fun. :->

Andrew McP

PS Between writing this and posting I ran a couple of races. In the first
I somehow managed to be placed 4th on the grid out of 13. Now I'm *always*
at the back, ok. So I was immediately scared out of my wits. :-) I
planned to make a slow start and let a lot past, but the guy opposite me
made a very slow start as well, so I headed off in 2nd (!) for half of
the first lap. Then I went off in my haste not to be a danger to others.
Too much rear view mirror, not enough braking point.

Still, it was a neat x1 off, nobody else involved. I waited for the rest
to pass, then joined in my natural position at the back.

One lap later it turns out I'm not the slowest rookie on the block this
time, and the two guys I've caught up with are in trouble in the final
turn. First spins ahead of me, second gets caught up, I'm feeling smug
because I backed off in anticipation of trouble.

Ah, but the first driver forgets to put his foot on the brake and his
off-track spin turns into a sharp reverse onto the track. I clip him
while avoiding, x4 incident, I have to reset for the very first time in
an iRace. So did the second guy who clipped the spinner first.

The original racer appears undamaged and continues!

It was one of those iRacing moments which make you want to delete the
thing off your HD immediately. Still, that's racing... blah, blah. If you
can't take the heat... blah, blah. Read the <we're_not_worthy>Sporting
Code</we're_not_worthy>... blah, blah.

Calm down, think of meadows & flowers & stuff, carry on. Managed to
complete the race with only one more x1 as I put my wheels a little too
far over the curb. Donated a whole heap of iRacing points to the leaders
though, and clocked up a mighty total of 7 incident points, a personal
record! Fortunately the SR still shows 4.99 though, so there's clearly
some invisible overhead available (it goes over 5 but you don't see it, I
believe).

Ok, decided to punish myself by entering the Rookie Solstice race just
about to start. I haven't been in it for a while because... well, because
despite what the SRT youtube iRacing review says, IT'S EFFING CRAP!
Nimble my arse. The only thing nimble about that car is me as I climb out
of it and run away as fast as my legs can carry me... or about twice as
fast as  Usain Bolt sprinting to save his children from being eaten by a
crocodile, whichever is quicker.

Still, for every sim-crime there must be sim-punishment, so in I get for
the race. It'll be good for my soul.

Now, you know how sometimes when you return to an old sim car after
racing something more entertaining you find you've improved... that the
car you hated has become easier to drive somehow? Well, bollox to that!
My fastest lap in that race was 1:08, 2s off my pb, and miles slower than
normal drivers.

Fortunately this wasn't a normal race. There seem to be enough USAnian
rookies around at the moment to bump up the numbers in these beginners''
races, and so although I was slowest at the start, I finished in 4th
because... well, because all the others crashed horribly and disconnected
rather than get back on the track and rescue a bit of SR. So that was
about as satisfying as dropping the baton on the last leg of the 4x100m
relay race.

PPS I don't think I've got the hang of this PS business yet.

Byron Forbe

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by Byron Forbe » Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:00:00



>> I don't know if this has come up yet, but SRT did a full iRacing preview
>> that's pretty darned good...

>> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>> -Larry

> Is this the same youtube video that refers to South Boston as Iracings
> "home track"? Iracing is based in Massachusetts not ***ia, where South
> Boston is. Iracing's home track would be Lime Rock or Stafford Springs, or
> perhaps New Hampshire.

    What a gem of a reply - ***wit! What in the *** are you on about?
Byron Forbe

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by Byron Forbe » Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:03:56


    onya Larry - first time I have seen something of true value on You Tube.

Larr

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by Larr » Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:31:58

You have not seen my internal posts.  I assure you, I make my share of
gripes.

I'm just providing information.  It's up to you to join or not.  Your use of
the term "Fanboy" indicates to me you are most likely not mature enough for
iRacing.

-Larry





>> > I don't know if this has come up yet, but SRT did a full iRacing
>> > preview
>> > that's pretty darned good...

>> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>> > -Larry

>> Is this the same youtube video that refers to South Boston as Iracings
>> "home track"? Iracing is based in Massachusetts not ***ia, where
>> South Boston is. Iracing's home track would be Lime Rock or Stafford
>> Springs, or perhaps New Hampshire.

>   Larry's a bit of a fanboy, well ok, a raving fanboy, so you'll have to
> excuse his error.

JP

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by JP » Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:49:01

  Lol, yeah, maturity has sooo much to do with playing a pc game <rolls
eyes>.


> You have not seen my internal posts.  I assure you, I make my share of
> gripes.

> I'm just providing information.  It's up to you to join or not.  Your use
of
> the term "Fanboy" indicates to me you are most likely not mature enough
for
> iRacing.

> -Larry






> >> > I don't know if this has come up yet, but SRT did a full iRacing
> >> > preview
> >> > that's pretty darned good...

> >> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> >> > -Larry

> >> Is this the same youtube video that refers to South Boston as Iracings
> >> "home track"? Iracing is based in Massachusetts not ***ia, where
> >> South Boston is. Iracing's home track would be Lime Rock or Stafford
> >> Springs, or perhaps New Hampshire.

> >   Larry's a bit of a fanboy, well ok, a raving fanboy, so you'll have to
> > excuse his error.

Larr

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by Larr » Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:38:48

iRacing is not a PC Game by any stretch.  It is a new class of online
Motorsports Simulation.

Oh, and Visine may help with that eye strain...

:)

-Larry


>  Lol, yeah, maturity has sooo much to do with playing a pc game <rolls
> eyes>.



>> You have not seen my internal posts.  I assure you, I make my share of
>> gripes.

>> I'm just providing information.  It's up to you to join or not.  Your use
> of
>> the term "Fanboy" indicates to me you are most likely not mature enough
> for
>> iRacing.

>> -Larry






>> >> > I don't know if this has come up yet, but SRT did a full iRacing
>> >> > preview
>> >> > that's pretty darned good...

>> >> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>> >> > -Larry

>> >> Is this the same youtube video that refers to South Boston as Iracings
>> >> "home track"? Iracing is based in Massachusetts not ***ia, where
>> >> South Boston is. Iracing's home track would be Lime Rock or Stafford
>> >> Springs, or perhaps New Hampshire.

>> >   Larry's a bit of a fanboy, well ok, a raving fanboy, so you'll have
>> > to
>> > excuse his error.

JP

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by JP » Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:48:25

   Ah, ok, that clears it up; its not a pc game.  <wink>


> iRacing is not a PC Game by any stretch.  It is a new class of online
> Motorsports Simulation.

> Oh, and Visine may help with that eye strain...

> :)

> -Larry



> >  Lol, yeah, maturity has sooo much to do with playing a pc game <rolls
> > eyes>.



> >> You have not seen my internal posts.  I assure you, I make my share of
> >> gripes.

> >> I'm just providing information.  It's up to you to join or not.  Your
use
> > of
> >> the term "Fanboy" indicates to me you are most likely not mature enough
> > for
> >> iRacing.

> >> -Larry






> >> >> > I don't know if this has come up yet, but SRT did a full iRacing
> >> >> > preview
> >> >> > that's pretty darned good...

> >> >> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> >> >> > -Larry

> >> >> Is this the same youtube video that refers to South Boston as
Iracings
> >> >> "home track"? Iracing is based in Massachusetts not ***ia, where
> >> >> South Boston is. Iracing's home track would be Lime Rock or Stafford
> >> >> Springs, or perhaps New Hampshire.

> >> >   Larry's a bit of a fanboy, well ok, a raving fanboy, so you'll have
> >> > to
> >> > excuse his error.

Rob

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by Rob » Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:08:41



>>  Larry's a bit of a fanboy, well ok, a raving fanboy

> I think Larry, like others, is understandably enthusiastic for a product
> he's been watching grow for quite a while. I can understand where his
> enthusiasm comes from.

> However coming to the product from the outside, with a fresh pair of eyes,
> gives you a slightly different take on the product as it stands. That's
> why there are legitimate differences of opinion between the ***
> faithful and those who have had less time to bond with the iRacing
> 'child'.

> I am currently torn between wanting to give this child a big hug, and
> wanting to put it up for adoption wearing a black eye. I sort of enjoy
> racing the Skippy... it is indeed fair to say this is the best racing
> physics available to date. But the novelty of running at the back has
> worn off. I'm at the stage where I really need to go offline for a few
> months and practise in traffic against AI in order to sharpen my
> reactions and improve lap times. But that's not an option, and ***
> with other people's SR isn't fair.

> So I remain torn between my head and my heart. My heart says I want to
> keep racing. He head says take a break for a few months and come back
> after Christmas when there might be a bigger pool of talentless Skippy
> drivers to race against. Racing against the talented ones is no fun. :->

> Andrew McP

> PS Between writing this and posting I ran a couple of races. In the first
> I somehow managed to be placed 4th on the grid out of 13. Now I'm *always*
> at the back, ok. So I was immediately scared out of my wits. :-) I
> planned to make a slow start and let a lot past, but the guy opposite me
> made a very slow start as well, so I headed off in 2nd (!) for half of
> the first lap. Then I went off in my haste not to be a danger to others.
> Too much rear view mirror, not enough braking point.

> Still, it was a neat x1 off, nobody else involved. I waited for the rest
> to pass, then joined in my natural position at the back.

> One lap later it turns out I'm not the slowest rookie on the block this
> time, and the two guys I've caught up with are in trouble in the final
> turn. First spins ahead of me, second gets caught up, I'm feeling smug
> because I backed off in anticipation of trouble.

> Ah, but the first driver forgets to put his foot on the brake and his
> off-track spin turns into a sharp reverse onto the track. I clip him
> while avoiding, x4 incident, I have to reset for the very first time in
> an iRace. So did the second guy who clipped the spinner first.

> The original racer appears undamaged and continues!

> It was one of those iRacing moments which make you want to delete the
> thing off your HD immediately. Still, that's racing... blah, blah. If you
> can't take the heat... blah, blah. Read the <we're_not_worthy>Sporting
> Code</we're_not_worthy>... blah, blah.

> Calm down, think of meadows & flowers & stuff, carry on. Managed to
> complete the race with only one more x1 as I put my wheels a little too
> far over the curb. Donated a whole heap of iRacing points to the leaders
> though, and clocked up a mighty total of 7 incident points, a personal
> record! Fortunately the SR still shows 4.99 though, so there's clearly
> some invisible overhead available (it goes over 5 but you don't see it, I
> believe).

> Ok, decided to punish myself by entering the Rookie Solstice race just
> about to start. I haven't been in it for a while because... well, because
> despite what the SRT youtube iRacing review says, IT'S EFFING CRAP!
> Nimble my arse. The only thing nimble about that car is me as I climb out
> of it and run away as fast as my legs can carry me... or about twice as
> fast as  Usain Bolt sprinting to save his children from being eaten by a
> crocodile, whichever is quicker.

> Still, for every sim-crime there must be sim-punishment, so in I get for
> the race. It'll be good for my soul.

> Now, you know how sometimes when you return to an old sim car after
> racing something more entertaining you find you've improved... that the
> car you hated has become easier to drive somehow? Well, bollox to that!
> My fastest lap in that race was 1:08, 2s off my pb, and miles slower than
> normal drivers.

> Fortunately this wasn't a normal race. There seem to be enough USAnian
> rookies around at the moment to bump up the numbers in these beginners''
> races, and so although I was slowest at the start, I finished in 4th
> because... well, because all the others crashed horribly and disconnected
> rather than get back on the track and rescue a bit of SR. So that was
> about as satisfying as dropping the baton on the last leg of the 4x100m
> relay race.

> PPS I don't think I've got the hang of this PS business yet.

In my recent races I have been starting to get 5th-6th pos and even one 4th
pos. Like Andrew I hang back and take most of my places by people coming off
the track or disconnecting. This week I didn't even bother to qualify, safe
in the knowledge that iRacing would put me at the back of the grid at the
start.

After I came from Laguna and went to Lime Rock again I found that my initial
lap times were quite good for me. Managed a personal best of 01:06.716
during a time trial and 01:07.814 in an actual race. But alas, as the week
progressed I found myself getting more cautious after some incidents in the
early part of the week and my race times went back up to 1:09 on average
dipping down to 1:08 at best.

It amazes me how many very talented drivers are throwing away their races. I
often beat drivers that can lap 1:04-1:05 simply because these drivers keep
coming of or disconnect. I guess this proves that targeting the improvement
of ones iRating can improve their overall race results.

iRacing's system for getting similar drivers together, seems to be working
pretty well now. On average I see one maybe two aliens on the track at any
one time (I know they are aliens because they can type messages whilst
racing - thus must have at least an extra arm....).

 It's bizarre and I never thought I'd ever think this, but I'm actually
looking forward to next week and Laguna Seca again. Although in other sims I
used to hate this track, in this one I really like it. I think it suits my
driving rhythm a lot better than Lime Park. It could be because the corners
are much further apart.

With my enjoyment of iRacing I have found that I'm not even getting
interested in SimBins next offering, something that I find quite
worrying....

RobP

Pete

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by Pete » Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:41:06



Or someone typing for them.;-)

--
Pete Ives
Remove All_stRESS before sending me an email

Byron Forbe

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by Byron Forbe » Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:01:14

    LOL - for a sec there I thought you had taken Larry up on the Visine
advice! ("clears that up")

    PS - seems it was good advice from Larry - you do give those eyes a good
workout! :)


>   Ah, ok, that clears it up; its not a pc game.  <wink>



>> iRacing is not a PC Game by any stretch.  It is a new class of online
>> Motorsports Simulation.

>> Oh, and Visine may help with that eye strain...

>> :)

>> -Larry



>> >  Lol, yeah, maturity has sooo much to do with playing a pc game <rolls
>> > eyes>.

hoove

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by hoove » Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:23:12


> You have not seen my internal posts.  I assure you, I make my share of
> gripes.

> I'm just providing information.  It's up to you to join or not.  Your use of
> the term "Fanboy" indicates to me you are most likely not mature enough for
> iRacing.

> -Larry

I can attest to ZZ's maturity, Larry, I've been racing with him for
over a decade ;-) I guess his remark was tongue-in-cheek and maybe
missing a smiley here and there. On the subject of iRacing, for me the
frustration has mostly outweighed the fun involved by quite a margin.

All the best, Uwe

--

Larr

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by Larr » Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:53:23

I'm really sorry to hear that Uwe.  As you 've seen from my iR posts, I have
my thoughts too LOL.  However for me, as long as they continually improve
the system and LISTEN to us when we have a concern, I'm in it for the long
haul.

As for the Fanboy thing, I just HATE that friggin' word with a vengence, no
matter where it's applied :)

-Larry



>> You have not seen my internal posts.  I assure you, I make my share of
>> gripes.

>> I'm just providing information.  It's up to you to join or not.  Your use
>> of
>> the term "Fanboy" indicates to me you are most likely not mature enough
>> for
>> iRacing.

>> -Larry

> I can attest to ZZ's maturity, Larry, I've been racing with him for
> over a decade ;-) I guess his remark was tongue-in-cheek and maybe
> missing a smiley here and there. On the subject of iRacing, for me the
> frustration has mostly outweighed the fun involved by quite a margin.

> All the best, Uwe

> --


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