rec.autos.simulators

by **GTX_SlotCa** » Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:00:00

If you are referring to Sega's Touring Car Championship. Don't bother
wasting the time to pick it up.
I got it a little over a year ago for $30 with a $20 rebate. I never got the
rebate despite several unanswered emails to Sega.
At one time it was voted the worst driving game here on r.a.s. The handling
it terrible, steering erratic and you could stop a car on a banked curve and
actually watch it slide to the lower side of the track.
A total waste of time and gas even if the game is free.

Slot

> Thanks for the reply. I think I might as well pick it up. I really like
the
> BTCC type of racing, from what little bit of it I get to see here in
Canada,
> so I'll probably play it a bit. Like you say, if I hate it, I have a nice
> coaster. Thanks.
> Marc

> > It is what it is, Marc, an original of the series. Toca 2 is much
better,
> > but the sequels in *** (unlike in the movies) often are. If you've
> never
> > played TOCA, it's leaning more towards arcade than sim, especially
Toca1,
> > (limited amout of setup options), but for the price that you've been
> quoted,
> > it's got to be worth a go? If you hate it, you've just got a new
coaster.
> > Toca 2, apparently, is hard to find in the States, but you have to think
> > that that's going to change with the impending release of Toca3,
featuring
> > world-wide tracks, as opposed to just our British ones. Me, I like Toca,
> > always have (apart from the bad programming, inasmush as turning the
> > graphics all the way down makes the car go appreciably faster) but, to
be
> > fair, I haven't run Toca 1 for a very long time.
> > A bit ambiguous, but there you are - hope this helps.

> > --

> > Colin Harris
> > ColinHarris in N3/NL
> > Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league
> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> > ICQ 25485061

> > > Is the original TOCA any good? They have it now at www.compusmart.com
> with
> > a
> > > rebate for the full price. Basically it will only cost the amount of
the
> > tax
> > > (a couple dollars). Is it still any good, or is there just no point in
> > > ordering it? Anyone know if TOCA 2 will be rereleased cheaply anytime
> > soon?
> > > Thanks.
> > > Marc

by **Sideshow Bo** » Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:00:00

It's not a bad sim. It's far from GPL or even Sports Car GT but good
fun nevertheless.

I'd become ***ed to the BTCC programming on Speedvision and picked
up the game (my first racing game) at full price. I think I got good
value for that money. I had always avoided racing sims thinking that
they would never match the real thing (like I would know...) but I
found TOCA to be great fun.

Unfortunately it doesn't take long to master the game (AI is a bit
weak) and I found myself skipping qualifying so I could start from the
back of the grid in order to have some sort of challenge.

--

www.compusmart.com with a

by **Tim O** » Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:00:00

On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 01:24:19 GMT, "Marc Goldstein"

>Thanks for the reply. I think I might as well pick it up. I really like the
>BTCC type of racing, from what little bit of it I get to see here in Canada,
>so I'll probably play it a bit. Like you say, if I hate it, I have a nice
>coaster. Thanks.

I don't know about TOCA, but TOCA2 is already in the cheapie section
at Electronics Boutique in the US.
I had a lot of fun with it. I only paid $29 US for it when it came
out, and I think its going for about 15 now. Well worth it.

Tim

by **Marc Goldstei** » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Is the original TOCA any good? They have it now at www.compusmart.com with a
rebate for the full price. Basically it will only cost the amount of the tax
(a couple dollars). Is it still any good, or is there just no point in
ordering it? Anyone know if TOCA 2 will be rereleased cheaply anytime soon?
Thanks.
Marc

by **Colin Harri** » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00

It is what it is, Marc, an original of the series. Toca 2 is much better,
but the sequels in *** (unlike in the movies) often are. If you've never
played TOCA, it's leaning more towards arcade than sim, especially Toca1,
(limited amout of setup options), but for the price that you've been quoted,
it's got to be worth a go? If you hate it, you've just got a new coaster.
Toca 2, apparently, is hard to find in the States, but you have to think
that that's going to change with the impending release of Toca3, featuring
world-wide tracks, as opposed to just our British ones. Me, I like Toca,
always have (apart from the bad programming, inasmush as turning the
graphics all the way down makes the car go appreciably faster) but, to be
fair, I haven't run Toca 1 for a very long time.
A bit ambiguous, but there you are - hope this helps.

--

Colin Harris
ColinHarris in N3/NL
Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
ICQ 25485061

by **Marc Goldstei** » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Thanks for the reply. I think I might as well pick it up. I really like the
BTCC type of racing, from what little bit of it I get to see here in Canada,
so I'll probably play it a bit. Like you say, if I hate it, I have a nice
coaster. Thanks.
Marc

> It is what it is, Marc, an original of the series. Toca 2 is much better,
> but the sequels in *** (unlike in the movies) often are. If you've
never
> played TOCA, it's leaning more towards arcade than sim, especially Toca1,
> (limited amout of setup options), but for the price that you've been
quoted,
> it's got to be worth a go? If you hate it, you've just got a new coaster.
> Toca 2, apparently, is hard to find in the States, but you have to think
> that that's going to change with the impending release of Toca3, featuring
> world-wide tracks, as opposed to just our British ones. Me, I like Toca,
> always have (apart from the bad programming, inasmush as turning the
> graphics all the way down makes the car go appreciably faster) but, to be
> fair, I haven't run Toca 1 for a very long time.
> A bit ambiguous, but there you are - hope this helps.

> --

> Colin Harris
> ColinHarris in N3/NL
> Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> ICQ 25485061

> > Is the original TOCA any good? They have it now at www.compusmart.com
with
> a
> > rebate for the full price. Basically it will only cost the amount of the
> tax
> > (a couple dollars). Is it still any good, or is there just no point in
> > ordering it? Anyone know if TOCA 2 will be rereleased cheaply anytime
> soon?
> > Thanks.
> > Marc

by **Marc Goldstei** » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I didn't mean Sega touring car, no. I downloaded the demo of that and
deleted it after less than a lap. If it was $20 with a $40 or $50 rebate, I
might consider it. Otherwise, foget it. Thanks anyway.
Marc

by **David Butte** » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00

<snip>

He's not. Marc is referring to the Codemasters game "TOCA Touring Car
Championship", which was released (in the UK, anyway) in 1997 and
simulates the British Touring Car Championship. Although it's
rather arcadey, and the graphics are old-fashioned these days (pop-
up!!!), it's good fun, and better than Sega TCC by a factor too high to
compute.

--
David.
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

by **Martyn Danb** » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Marc

I saw Toca 2 the other day for $39.95 at Computercity here in toronto
canada
I also am curious as to whether I should or shouldn't bother with it.
From what i've seen on speedvision its pretty excitin racing, and i'd
like to giv the front wheelers ago

Md

> Is the original TOCA any good? They have it now at www.compusmart.com with a
> rebate for the full price. Basically it will only cost the amount of the tax
> (a couple dollars). Is it still any good, or is there just no point in
> ordering it? Anyone know if TOCA 2 will be rereleased cheaply anytime soon?
> Thanks.
> Marc

by **Colin Harri** » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00

There are AI tweakers, you know, Sideshow.....I don't think they work on
Toca 1, but you can certainly turn 'em up to unfeasibly high levels in Toca
2.

--

Colin Harris
ColinHarris in N3/NL
Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
ICQ 25485061

> It's not a bad sim. It's far from GPL or even Sports Car GT but good
> fun nevertheless.

> I'd become ***ed to the BTCC programming on Speedvision and picked
> up the game (my first racing game) at full price. I think I got good
> value for that money. I had always avoided racing sims thinking that
> they would never match the real thing (like I would know...) but I
> found TOCA to be great fun.

> Unfortunately it doesn't take long to master the game (AI is a bit
> weak) and I found myself skipping qualifying so I could start from the
> back of the grid in order to have some sort of challenge.

> --

> > Is the original TOCA any good? They have it now at
> www.compusmart.com with a
> > rebate for the full price.

by **Ashley McConnel** » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Martyn,
Its definitely a good game and really good fun. Be sure to get
the patch though for a few fixes and better network play

Ashley

http://www.race-timing.com

| Marc
|
| I saw Toca 2 the other day for $39.95 at Computercity here in toronto
| canada
| I also am curious as to whether I should or shouldn't bother with it.
| From what i've seen on speedvision its pretty excitin racing, and i'd
| like to giv the front wheelers ago
|
|
| Md
|
| >
| > Is the original TOCA any good? They have it now at www.compusmart.com
with a
| > rebate for the full price. Basically it will only cost the amount of the
tax
| > (a couple dollars). Is it still any good, or is there just no point in
| > ordering it? Anyone know if TOCA 2 will be rereleased cheaply anytime
soon?
| > Thanks.
| > Marc

by **GTX_SlotCa** » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Oh ya. I wasn't thinking. In my haste to warn you before you stepped out to
buy it, I didn't take the time to think it through. Oh well, hey, my heart
was in the right place. My brain just wasn't functioning.
I never tried TOCA, but did try the demo of TOCA2 and as I recall it wasn't
too bad.

Ummm... Nevermind ;)

Slot

by **Marc Goldstei** » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Thanks. You ment well :)

by **Krunc** » Sun, 23 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Plus its got Formula Fords, Lister Storms, Jaguar XJS's, and other cars.
Great Game TOCA 2 - good balance between sim and arcade. A quick 10 lapper
then back to work - brilliant! Buy it. Original TOCA was great fun too.

Krunch

> Martyn,
> Its definitely a good game and really good fun. Be sure to
get
> the patch though for a few fixes and better network play

> Ashley

> http://www.race-timing.com

by **Ken Bear** » Sun, 23 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I got it for $29 too, and although I tired of it after a while had quite a
bit of fun with it. For $15 it'd be well worthwhile to at least check out.

It's under a different name in the US though, which at this moment escapes
me. "Touring Car Challenge" or something similar, not TOCA 2.

--
Ken's Sig 3.01

"Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?"
- Obi-Wan Kenobi

volksy(at)yahoo(dot)com

Go #43 and #44!

> On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 01:24:19 GMT, "Marc Goldstein"

> >Thanks for the reply. I think I might as well pick it up. I really like
the
> >BTCC type of racing, from what little bit of it I get to see here in
Canada,
> >so I'll probably play it a bit. Like you say, if I hate it, I have a nice
> >coaster. Thanks.

> I don't know about TOCA, but TOCA2 is already in the cheapie section
> at Electronics Boutique in the US.
> I had a lot of fun with it. I only paid $29 US for it when it came
> out, and I think its going for about 15 now. Well worth it.

> Tim