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WSC - give me facts!

Nigel Nichol

WSC - give me facts!

by Nigel Nichol » Fri, 21 Jun 2002 03:19:51

Just imagine what would happen here if it was finally released and it turned
out to be another arcader pile of doo doo with crappy physics etc.
And a horrible frame rate on a 2gig CPU with tripple Gforce 10 500 meg video
cards.

I wonder if that is the real delay. They can't get it to run well on todays
CPU's etc

Nigel(Ducking for cover behind my Eagle in GPL, best sim since WSC dreamware
from twilight zone)

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Douglas Elliso

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by Douglas Elliso » Thu, 20 Jun 2002 09:02:45


The screenies from the '99 timeframe ran on P3 550's with Voodoo 3's and 4's
as far as I know.

And ran well on that spec to.

Doug

Larr

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by Larr » Thu, 20 Jun 2002 12:16:46

Like I said, Quick!  Grab it!

LOL :)

-Larry



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Gerry Aitke

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by Gerry Aitke » Thu, 20 Jun 2002 15:02:35


> Just imagine what would happen here if it was finally released and it turned
> out to be another arcader pile of doo doo with crappy physics etc.
> And a horrible frame rate on a 2gig CPU with tripple Gforce 10 500 meg video
> cards.

The GP3/4 boys would love it! <G>

Gerry

Asbj?rn Bj?rnst

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by Asbj?rn Bj?rnst » Thu, 20 Jun 2002 18:43:15




> > Just imagine what would happen here if it was finally released and it
> turned
> > out to be another arcader pile of doo doo with crappy physics etc.
> > And a horrible frame rate on a 2gig CPU with tripple Gforce 10 500 meg
> video
> > cards.

> > I wonder if that is the real delay. They can't get it to run well on
> todays
> > CPU's etc

> The screenies from the '99 timeframe ran on P3 550's with Voodoo 3's and 4's
> as far as I know.

> And ran well on that spec to.

I think the main phrase in this post is "'99 timeframe".
If it ran well at that time, what made it take more than 3 years to finish?
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Eldre

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by Eldre » Fri, 21 Jun 2002 01:11:17





>> I cant belelive how all people go talking about WSC all the time.

>I'm hoping to make a full post with as much as I know later today.

>However - be assued that WSC is VERY MUCH alive and well, and being upped to
>DX9 as we speak.

DX9?!?  Great, more shit that some of us won't be able to run...  What's wrong
with DX8.1?

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Gunnar Horrigm

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by Gunnar Horrigm » Fri, 21 Jun 2002 01:19:34






> >> I cant belelive how all people go talking about WSC all the time.

> >I'm hoping to make a full post with as much as I know later today.

> >However - be assued that WSC is VERY MUCH alive and well, and being upped to
> >DX9 as we speak.

> DX9?!?  Great, more shit that some of us won't be able to run...  What's wrong
> with DX8.1?

right on!  evolution sucks!

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Tom Pabs

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by Tom Pabs » Fri, 21 Jun 2002 02:03:30

David...

That "post" was a tongue-in-cheek joke.....germane to the string it was in
well over a year ago.

I did meet with both Chris and Tony at E3...and I did see WSC running on a
system they had setup.  That's all.  I also met with them on and off for
almost a week......in London around the middle of June-2001 (a year ago).  I
obviously can not reveal publicly the details of those meetings as it would
be completely unfair to Chris and Tony to do so.  And, "yes"....I would like
to.....it would add a lot of useful "clarification" of things for this
string and many others related to WSC over the past several months (year).
But I will not.

I can tell you my personal opinion and thoughts about the nature and
character of Chris and Tony West....and their project commitment.  I
immediately liked both of them from the first day I met them.  They were
full of enthusiasm and are hard working people.  They are dedicated to their
WSC project.....I have no doubts whatsoever about that....it is there "baby"
and they will see it through to completion.  They are also two very talented
and creative people.....and an absolute blast to hang out with (which we did
for a day up at Silverstone for an F1 test day).  At their core....they are
die-hard racing fans and both good sim racers too.  I also think both of
them are very honest, sincere and straightforward shooters.....I would trust
them with anything.  This is only my personal views on Chris and
Tony.....for whatever that's worth to some of you.

Regards,

Tom





> > Those in the know know otherwise :)

> Tom knows!

> - David Cook


> Subject: Re: 13 New World Sports Cars Screenies!
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators
> Date: 2001-05-21 17:37:38 PST

> Guys....I was at E3 last year...and this year......and these are my candid
> remarks regarding the "speculation" on WSC and Empire and Chris and Tony
and
> Derek Bell losing a race to me at Brands in a pair of 962's last
> week.......in an not-to-be-named hotel room with about 40 "spectators"
> jammed into the room:

> "No comment!"

> Tom Pabst

Andreas Nystr?

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by Andreas Nystr? » Fri, 21 Jun 2002 02:05:14

Yes. i guess Empire are the evil ones :(
I mean, the only thing they care about seems to be Virtua Tennis, Sega
Rally2, and Segas "Crazy taxi" for PC :(

where is the world going?. I love the video of WSC where the car drives
around the testtrack, and you can see
how well the suspension-model works!.  Im so impressed by it. It seems like
the car really have some wheight!.

I wonder if that "track" will be left in the retail?, i hope so :)

I will probably not get a DX9 card until about 2years. Still im waiting for
SCGT2 also.. :)


Andreas Nystr?

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by Andreas Nystr? » Fri, 21 Jun 2002 02:10:12

Yes, im still waiting for the game. I will get it first of all, if it gets
released!.
It has the cars that i really care about, the old Sportscars from the 80ies
and 90ies.

I couldnt care less about Audi R8s etc.

Not to mention that its suspension seems to work really good too.

Its just that you get tired of hearing "legal reasons" all the time. :)

I hope some simdevelopers goes to some rich guy that only cares about
racingcars,
like Panoz.. maybe west could ask him for  some money to get the best
sportscar simulation out? :)




> > I cant belelive how all people go talking about WSC all the time.

> Right - basically what I wanted to say I cant say due to legal issues.

> Believe what you WANT - but WSC is alive and well. If you dont want to
> believe that - fine - but I'm sure you'll be first in line to get it when
> it's released

> Doug

Ian Wrigh

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by Ian Wrigh » Fri, 21 Jun 2002 02:54:11

rtfm

Andre Warring

WSC - give me facts!

by Andre Warring » Fri, 21 Jun 2002 07:05:32



My copy of WSC didn't come with a manual :-/

Andre

Michael Sisso

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by Michael Sisso » Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:40:14





> >> I think the main phrase in this post is "'99 timeframe".
> >> If it ran well at that time, what made it take more than 3 years to
> >finish?
> >> --
> >>   -asbjxrn

> >rtfm

> My copy of WSC didn't come with a manual :-/

> Andre

You damn dirty warez monkey!

;)

MRSisson

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Carol Bekke

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by Carol Bekke » Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:40:01

Just because something is written to use DX9 dosnt mean you have to have a
DX9 card, DX9 is a progression from DX8. It just makes sense to code for the
latest version as each version of DX is optimised over the previous.



> >DX9?!?  Great, more shit that some of us won't be able to run...  What's
wrong
> >with DX8.1?

> >Eldred

> There will be exactly two Dx9 video card out late this year, or only one
if
> the NV30 is delayed til next year.  Both with be super expensive so will
be in
> very few computers.  Such a small audience doesn't sound good for game
> sales.

> Feature-creep or lame excuse, you decide...

jason moy

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by jason moy » Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:37:56


> > I think the main phrase in this post is "'99 timeframe".
> > If it ran well at that time, what made it take more than 3 years to
>  finish?
> > --
> >   -asbjxrn

> rtfm

They can't legally release the game yet, but they've printed a manual? =)

Jason


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