rec.autos.simulators

> > Andre

> There was a gerat deal of effort put into the online portion of the game
> at, it seems, the expense of the offline AI.  I guess Papyrus must have
> figured that few would play the game offline, so nobody would notice.
> Unfortunatley for them, the game is such a hit that there are a lot of
> people like us struggling with the weak offline AI.  How you guys got out
> of the practice at Rockingham in one piece is beyond me :-).

> I'm sure they'll eventually fix it, but they must have known about the
> AI problems before they shipped the game.  They're too obvious after five
> minutes of driving.

> Chris

>> Andre

>There was a gerat deal of effort put into the online portion of the game
>at, it seems, the expense of the offline AI.  I guess Papyrus must have
>figured that few would play the game offline, so nobody would notice.  
>Unfortunatley for them, the game is such a hit that there are a lot of
>people like us struggling with the weak offline AI.  How you guys got out
>of the practice at Rockingham in one piece is beyond me :-).

>I'm sure they'll eventually fix it, but they must have known about the
>AI problems before they shipped the game.  They're too obvious after five
>minutes of driving.

>Chris

> Both races had a AI strenght of 95% and all goes well until the first yellow
> comes out. From that moment on it seems like you're no longer recognised
> by the AI, they simply slam into you during yellow, wrecking your car so bad
> that you have no other choice than going in again.
> And the spotter tells you to pass a car that is either 12 positions ahead or
> 20 positions down!
> Also they also keep slamming into each other during yellow, not to mention
> the pile-up's entering pit road.
> Another thing i noticed is that the AI are a bit boring in battlin' each
> other,
> not much overtaking is done.

> Well, i could go on a little while, but i don't wanna be too negative.
> I'm sure N4 performs great for on-line racing, but i haven't read much
> complaints from others about the AI, so i doubt if Papy will ever look in to
> this...

> Blues

> > I've tried to run a 100% laps race at Daytona last night and a 100% laps
> > race at Rockingham this evening and i only came to one conclusion:
> > It's impossible to finish since Papy took too little time for
programming
> > the AI.
> (snip)
> > Well, i could go on a little while, but i don't wanna be too negative.
> > I'm sure N4 performs great for on-line racing, but i haven't read much
> > complaints from others about the AI, so i doubt if Papy will ever look
in
> to
> > this...

> > Blues

> I know what your sayin' . While I eventually figured out how to run at
> Daytona against the AI it was more a case of "learn by being crashed" than
> any sort of exercise in reason. I can't picture trying to run an offline
> season in this without a lot of practising to puzzle out just what sort of
> weirdness the AI is going to pull on you next. If you think Daytona and
the
> Rock are bad you're not going to like Indy at all. The AI there can barely
> make a lap without colliding with each other. Just like GPL, N4 is in need
> of a patch or two to let the essentially excellent sim shine through.

> Dave_Erb

> > GPL didn't need any patching to run "normal" races.  Neither did N3.
N4,
> > like NH, was released before its time.

> > Marc.

>    Depends on what you expect: one players "normal" is anothers
> "occasional".  To expect N4 to repeat the same problems in the same
sequence
> as GPL and N3 is a bit much.  N4 , like GPL , showed up on shelves in less
> than optimum condition however, to address one area, the multiplayer in N4
> release version is much more robust than GPL's initial release was.  I
have
> no problems understanding why N4 was relaesed at this time (to match the
> start of the racing season) and have no real doubts that Papy will patch
> those areas that need work. This is part of the business of game producing
> nowadays and the only way to avoid it is to set your own personal release
> date i.e. wait until all the outstanding issues have been addressed prior
to
> buying it. My posts on these matters are meant in the form of feedback to
> the developers. There is an excellent sim at the root of N4 and patches,
> like those applied to GPL, will be required to reveal it.

> Dave_Erb

> Marc.

> > > I've tried to run a 100% laps race at Daytona last night and a 100%
laps
> > > race at Rockingham this evening and i only came to one conclusion:
> > > It's impossible to finish since Papy took too little time for
> programming
> > > the AI.
> > (snip)
> > > Well, i could go on a little while, but i don't wanna be too negative.
> > > I'm sure N4 performs great for on-line racing, but i haven't read much
> > > complaints from others about the AI, so i doubt if Papy will ever look
> in
> > to
> > > this...

> > > Blues

> > I know what your sayin' . While I eventually figured out how to run at
> > Daytona against the AI it was more a case of "learn by being crashed"
than
> > any sort of exercise in reason. I can't picture trying to run an offline
> > season in this without a lot of practising to puzzle out just what sort
of
> > weirdness the AI is going to pull on you next. If you think Daytona and
> the
> > Rock are bad you're not going to like Indy at all. The AI there can
barely
> > make a lap without colliding with each other. Just like GPL, N4 is in
need
> > of a patch or two to let the essentially excellent sim shine through.

> > Dave_Erb