rec.autos.simulators

>>TNT2: 17 fps
>>Voodoo2: 31 fps, and running rock stable

>Not exactly the fairest test given that the OpenGL is beta and that
>the Voodoo's Glide is native - how about trying the Voodoo2 in OpenGL
>mode... ;-)

>Cheers!
>John

>Yup.

>> I almost went with the well hyped TNT2, but decided to go with the
>> unfashionable non-boastworthy v3 3000 because, although it doesn't do
>32bit
>> colour and large textures, it is more suited to what I play - GPL and
>SCGT.

>Unfashionable? Heh, ok..you are going a bit out there on a limb with that
>one.  And the Voodoo3 series was way more hyped than the TNT2s.  Heck, I
>dont recall ever seeing any NVidia commercials on tv, but tons of (in some
>cases rather good) Voodoo3 commercials from 3dfx.

>SCGT runs better in D3D anyways. :)

>>>Note however that these benchmarks focus on 400 MHz machines and
>>>higher.  If you've got benchmarks on P300's for the TNT2 and Voodoo3,
>>>I'd like to see them!

>>[admitting to not having read the previous post...]

>>I believe Tom's Hardware and/or Anandtech had some reviews on lesser machines.
>>The 3dfx cards tend to lose less fps than the TNT's.  That is, they perform
>>relatively better than the TNT's as the CPU gets slower.

>Exactly.  Unfortunately, I can't find any TNT2 vs. Voodoo3 benchmarks
>on his site that use anything less than 400's!  It's one thing to
>compare the original TNT and Voodoo2 on a P300, but what about the
>newer boards.  I think when you have a lot of people trying to extend
>the life of their machine by updating graphics cards, knowing which
>card is best for THEIR CPU speed is very important, and those that
>tout the TNT2 often use 450-500 Mhz benchmarks for their comparisons,
>but even Tom's Hardware site shows a slope beginning with the 400's
>and going up through 550's in which a level playing field turns
>lopsided towards TNT2 as you go up from 400.  Below 400?  Who knows?

>Trust me, they are ALL over the place in the US.  TV, Radio, etc. :)
>Mms...I guess I haven't gotten that vibe from the internet.  In fact, they
>keep hammering away that the V3 is a very good card and good value, but it
>just lacks the more advanced features of some of the other cards.

> >And the Voodoos OpenGL is beta, whats the point?

> The point is when native Voodoo support beats beta OpenGL it's lauded
> as being great - the reverse comparison should also be taken into
> account.

> Too bad its not really an AGP solution at all, just is able to sit in the
> AGP slot and does take advantage of the slightly faster AGP bus but still
> uses its own proprietary memory transfer.

> Nonetheless, yes thats something that we've all been forgetting is to
> qualify with the type of computer because the TNT2 does take "off" more
with
> higher end machines.  However, it should be noted that while apparently
its
> not nearly as weighted as the TNT2, the same thing happens with the
> Voodoo3s.

> > >I think you chose well. I own both cards and the TNT2 is better then my
> > >Voodoo3.

> > >The only hassle you'll have is running GPL. Use the OpenGL beta2 patch
> and
> > >it might solve your problems. Make sure you use the latest Nvidia
> Reference
> > >drivers (2.08 I think)

> > >Every game game I own looks and runs much better on the TNT2. Voodoo3
> > >however runs GPL flawlessly with all mirror detail at 1280x1024 res
> 36fps.
> > >Opengl mode at this res. does some very strange things!

> > >> I'm sure this has been discussed before. I am having a new computer
put
> > >> together tomorrow and in an indecisive fit I chose the Diamond TNT2.
I
> > >> am having second thoughts to the Voodoo3 3000. Any suggestions.

> > >> Andrew

> > Randy Magruder
> > http://members.home.com/rmagruder