rec.autos.simulators

> It's not good to accuse an anti-virus company of making viruses themselves
> unless you have a shred of evidence to support such accusations.
Otherwise
> it's BS.  Those companies are not stupid enough to try ***like that.
> Often the creators of those viruses are caught and often face real jail
time
> and very hefty fines.  Do you think they wouldn't spill the beans on
Norton
> if they were hired by them or some 3rd party?   Hell yes they would.   If
> Norton was caught doing that it would mean the end of them as a company.
> They would not risk that.  Now maybe one of their investors might but even
> then it would horrendously damage the reputation of the company.   The
fact
> is that it takes money to keep those company's afloat.  Whether they are
> being greedy bastards or not all hinges on what their company overhead is,
> which you do not know.  So if you don't know then don't accuse them of
being
> greedy or making viruses.  Anyways if you really want to avoid the update
> fees, all you gotta do is to a dirty reinstall of Windows and then just
> install Norton Anti-Virus again.  Actually before you do that, try
> uninstalling it, and then reinstalling NAV to see if that works.  They
> uninstall may erase the registry files.  I don't remember offhand if it
does
> or not, but try it before reinstalling Windows.
> Chris G.
> aka-Miles Teg<GD>

> > I HAVE paid for Norton awhile back. And I had paid for McAfee too. But
at
> > our company, McAfee is causing all hell with SMS and other programs, so
we
> > won't be with them for long. What I am saying, is that in years past,
ALL
> > virus definition files were FREE. Now, they are a PAID
SUBSCRIPTION???!!!!
> > We would NOT need this ***on our systems, which most of the time
causes
> > problems and slowdowns ANYWAY, if someone didn't keep creating them. And
> so
> > who do you think wants to make MONEY? The hacker, or the A/V companies?
> > Thus, who do you think really DOES create the new viruses?

> > > First of all, your post is off topic.

> > > Second of all, these programs were NEVER free to begin with.  You were
> > > allowed to download an EVALUATION copy of the software under the
> agreement
> > > that you would PAY FOR the product if you kept using it; otherwise you
> > were
> > > obliged to REMOVE it from your system once the evaluation period
> expired.
> > > The fact that you ignored this rule and continued to update your virus
> > > definitions for an extended period of time without paying for a
product
> > that
> > > was obviously of value to you is testament to your desire for a free
> > lunch.
> > > Well guess what, there AIN'T no such thing as a free lunch, and now
> you're
> > > being asked to pony up your WAY OVERDUE share of the costs associated
> with
> > > developing the product.

> > > My suggestion is to pay the subscription fee and get on with your
life.

> > > TZ

> ignore them and goto http://astalavist.box.sk and just search a crack for
> it. you'll have your free copy in no time.
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> Will

> BillyTheKid (no clan)
> http://members.ams.chello.nl/m.roos4
> essential linkz and cs faq's

> ............................................................


> > I got Norton A/V with my new Intel Motherboard awhile ago. As McAfee has
> > turned into a nightmare at work, I removed it ASAP from my system and
> > installed this Norton. Well, I "Auto-Updated" and "Auto-Update" etc . .
.
> .
> > whenever the popup message said to. Then one day it says I have to PAY
to
> > subscribe in order to Auto-Update! So I thought the HELL with this, and
> > didn't. Well, today I tried to update manually with a file I downloaded
> from
> > Norton, and GUESS WHAT? IT WON'T WORK! It will not update unless I PAY!
> Not
> > too long ago - ALL these, both Norton and McAfee, were FREE! Hell, even
> > McAfee A/V program was FREE to download and use!

> > So, NOW that we have to PAY for Anti-Virus updates, doesn't it make you
> > wonder WHO is creating these viruses now? Cause you sure would not need
> them
> > if new viruses weren't cooked up by SOMEONE! And does some HACKER get
> > anything for what he creates, versus a major company getting BIG $$$$$
> > selling a product? We, the little folk once again GET SCREWED!

> Try AVG http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_index.cfm that is definatly free!

> Chris

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> > I got Norton A/V with my new Intel Motherboard awhile ago. As McAfee has
> > turned into a nightmare at work, I removed it ASAP from my system and
> > installed this Norton. Well, I "Auto-Updated" and "Auto-Update" etc . .
.
> .
> > whenever the popup message said to. Then one day it says I have to PAY
to
> > subscribe in order to Auto-Update! So I thought the HELL with this, and
> > didn't. Well, today I tried to update manually with a file I downloaded
> from
> > Norton, and GUESS WHAT? IT WON'T WORK! It will not update unless I PAY!
> Not
> > too long ago - ALL these, both Norton and McAfee, were FREE! Hell, even
> > McAfee A/V program was FREE to download and use!

> > So, NOW that we have to PAY for Anti-Virus updates, doesn't it make you
> > wonder WHO is creating these viruses now? Cause you sure would not need
> them
> > if new viruses weren't cooked up by SOMEONE! And does some HACKER get
> > anything for what he creates, versus a major company getting BIG $$$$$
> > selling a product? We, the little folk once again GET SCREWED!

> One, thing, crap-a-fee sucks
> second, if you buy Nortons then you dont have to pay for the updates
> third, why are you telling us? no one cares about your viruses.

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> R ^ A _ V _ E ^ N - X

> accept no substitutes


> > I got Norton A/V with my new Intel Motherboard awhile ago. As McAfee has
> > turned into a nightmare at work, I removed it ASAP from my system and
> > installed this Norton. Well, I "Auto-Updated" and "Auto-Update" etc . .
.
> .
> > whenever the popup message said to. Then one day it says I have to PAY
to
> > subscribe in order to Auto-Update! So I thought the HELL with this, and
> > didn't. Well, today I tried to update manually with a file I downloaded
> from
> > Norton, and GUESS WHAT? IT WON'T WORK! It will not update unless I PAY!
> Not
> > too long ago - ALL these, both Norton and McAfee, were FREE! Hell, even
> > McAfee A/V program was FREE to download and use!

> > So, NOW that we have to PAY for Anti-Virus updates, doesn't it make you
> > wonder WHO is creating these viruses now? Cause you sure would not need
> them
> > if new viruses weren't cooked up by SOMEONE! And does some HACKER get
> > anything for what he creates, versus a major company getting BIG $$$$$
> > selling a product? We, the little folk once again GET SCREWED!

> http://antivirus.ca.com/
> Free for personal use, updates every 2-3 days(auto-download)

> and its getting steady 100% detection awards
> http://www.virusbtn.com/100/vb100sum.html (it uses the VET engine)

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> > I got Norton A/V with my new Intel Motherboard awhile ago. As McAfee has
> > turned into a nightmare at work, I removed it ASAP from my system and
> > installed this Norton. Well, I "Auto-Updated" and "Auto-Update" etc . .
.
> .
> > whenever the popup message said to. Then one day it says I have to PAY
to
> > subscribe in order to Auto-Update! So I thought the HELL with this, and
> > didn't. Well, today I tried to update manually with a file I downloaded
> from
> > Norton, and GUESS WHAT? IT WON'T WORK! It will not update unless I PAY!
> Not
> > too long ago - ALL these, both Norton and McAfee, were FREE! Hell, even
> > McAfee A/V program was FREE to download and use!

> > So, NOW that we have to PAY for Anti-Virus updates, doesn't it make you
> > wonder WHO is creating these viruses now? Cause you sure would not need
> them
> > if new viruses weren't cooked up by SOMEONE! And does some HACKER get
> > anything for what he creates, versus a major company getting BIG $$$$$
> > selling a product? We, the little folk once again GET SCREWED!

> Who you talking to ***? I have nothing to *** about except you
idiots.
> I own and subscribe to everything I own legally and do it with the pride
and
> support they deserve. So***off ass-wipe! You can't read cause you seem
> to have probs. directing your bs in the wrong manner. Stop your cross
> posting ***too - we don't care to see it in DF County!
> --
> SBJ <GD>
> The Gun Dogs
> www.thegundogs.org
> War is Hell Ladies!
> So is that thar hill!

> > Ok 1) this isn't alt.games.half-life.viruses.counter-strike

> > why not go onto the Symantec message board and *** to them because
> frankly
> > half the people in the newsgroup don't care about him and his viruses.

> > and the fact that he suggest thats the anti-virus compeny is making
> viruses
> > so people will need anti virus software is way off base, we only accuse
> > jackasses of cheating not anti-virus compenys of making virus.

> > Ok so go back to alt.games.mechwarrior3 and leave us CS people alone
about
> > your stupid ***ing viruses because we dont give a shit.

> > and dipshit, if you read my post i also said that the updates are free
for
> a
> > year and after that you have to buy another copy. If he is using it so
> much
> > then why is he ***ing about it?

> > --
> > This was brought to you by the mind of

> > R ^ A _ V _ E ^ N - X

> > accept no substitutes

> dont *** at me for cross posting jimmy dix started it.

> --
> This was brought to you by the mind of

> R ^ A _ V _ E ^ N - X

> accept no substitutes


> > Who you talking to ***? I have nothing to *** about except you
> idiots.
> > I own and subscribe to everything I own legally and do it with the pride
> and
> > support they deserve. So***off ass-wipe! You can't read cause you
seem
> > to have probs. directing your bs in the wrong manner. Stop your cross
> > posting ***too - we don't care to see it in DF County!
> > --
> > SBJ <GD>
> > The Gun Dogs
> > www.thegundogs.org
> > War is Hell Ladies!
> > So is that thar hill!

> > > Ok 1) this isn't alt.games.half-life.viruses.counter-strike

> > > why not go onto the Symantec message board and *** to them because
> > frankly
> > > half the people in the newsgroup don't care about him and his viruses.

> > > and the fact that he suggest thats the anti-virus compeny is making
> > viruses
> > > so people will need anti virus software is way off base, we only
accuse
> > > jackasses of cheating not anti-virus compenys of making virus.

> > > Ok so go back to alt.games.mechwarrior3 and leave us CS people alone
> about
> > > your stupid ***ing viruses because we dont give a shit.

> > > and dipshit, if you read my post i also said that the updates are free
> for
> > a
> > > year and after that you have to buy another copy. If he is using it so
> > much
> > > then why is he ***ing about it?

> > > --
> > > This was brought to you by the mind of

> > > R ^ A _ V _ E ^ N - X

> > > accept no substitutes