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Doesn't it make you WONDER who keeps making viruses??

Z3Coup

Doesn't it make you WONDER who keeps making viruses??

by Z3Coup » Sun, 08 Apr 2001 03:29:33

I got Norton A/V with my new Intel Motherboard awhile ago. As McAfee has
turned into a nightmare at work, I removed it ASAP from my system and
installed this Norton. Well, I "Auto-Updated" and "Auto-Update" etc . . . .
whenever the popup message said to. Then one day it says I have to PAY to
subscribe in order to Auto-Update! So I thought the HELL with this, and
didn't. Well, today I tried to update manually with a file I downloaded from
Norton, and GUESS WHAT? IT WON'T WORK! It will not update unless I PAY! Not
too long ago - ALL these, both Norton and McAfee, were FREE! Hell, even
McAfee A/V program was FREE to download and use!

So, NOW that we have to PAY for Anti-Virus updates, doesn't it make you
wonder WHO is creating these viruses now? Cause you sure would not need them
if new viruses weren't cooked up by SOMEONE! And does some HACKER get
anything for what he creates, versus a major company getting BIG $$$$$
selling a product? We, the little folk once again GET SCREWED!

TZ McBest

Doesn't it make you WONDER who keeps making viruses??

by TZ McBest » Sun, 08 Apr 2001 03:45:03


First of all, your post is off topic.

Second of all, these programs were NEVER free to begin with.  You were
allowed to download an EVALUATION copy of the software under the agreement
that you would PAY FOR the product if you kept using it; otherwise you were
obliged to REMOVE it from your system once the evaluation period expired.
The fact that you ignored this rule and continued to update your virus
definitions for an extended period of time without paying for a product that
was obviously of value to you is testament to your desire for a free lunch.
Well guess what, there AIN'T no such thing as a free lunch, and now you're
being asked to pony up your WAY OVERDUE share of the costs associated with
developing the product.

My suggestion is to pay the subscription fee and get on with your life.

TZ

Cory Dunkl

Doesn't it make you WONDER who keeps making viruses??

by Cory Dunkl » Sun, 08 Apr 2001 04:24:28


You're just now realizing this?? Anyway, I used to use McAffee until it
wanted me to pay for updates. I bought Norton, which was so intrusive that I
uninstalled and returned it. There was absolutely no way I could find to
disable every part of the background stuff. Anyway, I run without any virus
software now. I've only gotten two viruses before, both a lnog time ago. I
am very cautious about such things so I really don't ahve much to fear.

John Ke

Doesn't it make you WONDER who keeps making viruses??

by John Ke » Sun, 08 Apr 2001 04:33:06




> > I got Norton A/V with my new Intel Motherboard awhile ago. As McAfee has
> > turned into a nightmare at work, I removed it ASAP from my system and
> > installed this Norton. Well, I "Auto-Updated" and "Auto-Update" etc . . .
> .
> > whenever the popup message said to. Then one day it says I have to PAY to
> > subscribe in order to Auto-Update! So I thought the HELL with this, and
> > didn't. Well, today I tried to update manually with a file I downloaded
> from
> > Norton, and GUESS WHAT? IT WON'T WORK! It will not update unless I PAY!
> Not
> > too long ago - ALL these, both Norton and McAfee, were FREE! Hell, even
> > McAfee A/V program was FREE to download and use!

> > So, NOW that we have to PAY for Anti-Virus updates, doesn't it make you
> > wonder WHO is creating these viruses now? Cause you sure would not need
> them
> > if new viruses weren't cooked up by SOMEONE! And does some HACKER get
> > anything for what he creates, versus a major company getting BIG $$$$$
> > selling a product? We, the little folk once again GET SCREWED!

> You're just now realizing this?? Anyway, I used to use McAffee until it
> wanted me to pay for updates. I bought Norton, which was so intrusive that I
> uninstalled and returned it. There was absolutely no way I could find to
> disable every part of the background stuff. Anyway, I run without any virus
> software now. I've only gotten two viruses before, both a lnog time ago. I
> am very cautious about such things so I really don't ahve much to fear.

Famous last words.

Sun Tzu

Ian

Doesn't it make you WONDER who keeps making viruses??

by Ian » Sun, 08 Apr 2001 04:43:16

Get yourself over to http://www.cai.com  and find their free for personal
use Innoculate IT anti virus software.
http://www3.ca.com/Solutions/Product.asp?ID=174

--
Ian P
<email invalid due to spam>


Z3Coup

Doesn't it make you WONDER who keeps making viruses??

by Z3Coup » Sun, 08 Apr 2001 04:46:54

I HAVE paid for Norton awhile back. And I had paid for McAfee too. But at
our company, McAfee is causing all hell with SMS and other programs, so we
won't be with them for long. What I am saying, is that in years past, ALL
virus definition files were FREE. Now, they are a PAID SUBSCRIPTION???!!!!
We would NOT need this ***on our systems, which most of the time causes
problems and slowdowns ANYWAY, if someone didn't keep creating them. And so
who do you think wants to make MONEY? The hacker, or the A/V companies?
Thus, who do you think really DOES create the new viruses?


Z3Coup

Doesn't it make you WONDER who keeps making viruses??

by Z3Coup » Sun, 08 Apr 2001 05:07:36

THANKS! Am doing that now. But - CAI also owns McAfee, so I wonder . . . .


> Get yourself over to http://www.cai.com  and find their free for personal
> use Innoculate IT anti virus software.
> http://www3.ca.com/Solutions/Product.asp?ID=174

> --
> Ian P
> <email invalid due to spam>



> > I got Norton A/V with my new Intel Motherboard awhile ago. As McAfee has
> > turned into a nightmare at work, I removed it ASAP from my system and
> > installed this Norton. Well, I "Auto-Updated" and "Auto-Update" etc . .
.
> .
> > whenever the popup message said to. Then one day it says I have to PAY
to
> > subscribe in order to Auto-Update! So I thought the HELL with this, and
> > didn't. Well, today I tried to update manually with a file I downloaded
> from
> > Norton, and GUESS WHAT? IT WON'T WORK! It will not update unless I PAY!
> Not
> > too long ago - ALL these, both Norton and McAfee, were FREE! Hell, even
> > McAfee A/V program was FREE to download and use!

> > So, NOW that we have to PAY for Anti-Virus updates, doesn't it make you
> > wonder WHO is creating these viruses now? Cause you sure would not need
> them
> > if new viruses weren't cooked up by SOMEONE! And does some HACKER get
> > anything for what he creates, versus a major company getting BIG $$$$$
> > selling a product? We, the little folk once again GET SCREWED!

R^A_V_E^N-

Doesn't it make you WONDER who keeps making viruses??

by R^A_V_E^N- » Sun, 08 Apr 2001 05:58:27

One, thing, crap-a-fee sucks
second, if you buy Nortons then you dont have to pay for the updates
third, why are you telling us? no one cares about your viruses.

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R^A_V_E^N-

Doesn't it make you WONDER who keeps making viruses??

by R^A_V_E^N- » Sun, 08 Apr 2001 05:56:03

so why are you telling us, we don't ***ing care.

stop downloading kiddy *** and maybe you wont get viruses.

By the way, if you paid for Norton Antivirus the updates are free for a
year, then you have to buy a new copy.

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Chris G

Doesn't it make you WONDER who keeps making viruses??

by Chris G » Sun, 08 Apr 2001 06:11:03

It's not good to accuse an anti-virus company of making viruses themselves
unless you have a shred of evidence to support such accusations.  Otherwise
it's BS.  Those companies are not stupid enough to try ***like that.
Often the creators of those viruses are caught and often face real jail time
and very hefty fines.  Do you think they wouldn't spill the beans on Norton
if they were hired by them or some 3rd party?   Hell yes they would.   If
Norton was caught doing that it would mean the end of them as a company.
They would not risk that.  Now maybe one of their investors might but even
then it would horrendously damage the reputation of the company.   The fact
is that it takes money to keep those company's afloat.  Whether they are
being greedy bastards or not all hinges on what their company overhead is,
which you do not know.  So if you don't know then don't accuse them of being
greedy or making viruses.  Anyways if you really want to avoid the update
fees, all you gotta do is to a dirty reinstall of Windows and then just
install Norton Anti-Virus again.  Actually before you do that, try
uninstalling it, and then reinstalling NAV to see if that works.  They
uninstall may erase the registry files.  I don't remember offhand if it does
or not, but try it before reinstalling Windows.
Chris G.
aka-Miles Teg<GD>


> I HAVE paid for Norton awhile back. And I had paid for McAfee too. But at
> our company, McAfee is causing all hell with SMS and other programs, so we
> won't be with them for long. What I am saying, is that in years past, ALL
> virus definition files were FREE. Now, they are a PAID SUBSCRIPTION???!!!!
> We would NOT need this ***on our systems, which most of the time causes
> problems and slowdowns ANYWAY, if someone didn't keep creating them. And
so
> who do you think wants to make MONEY? The hacker, or the A/V companies?
> Thus, who do you think really DOES create the new viruses?



> > First of all, your post is off topic.

> > Second of all, these programs were NEVER free to begin with.  You were
> > allowed to download an EVALUATION copy of the software under the
agreement
> > that you would PAY FOR the product if you kept using it; otherwise you
> were
> > obliged to REMOVE it from your system once the evaluation period
expired.
> > The fact that you ignored this rule and continued to update your virus
> > definitions for an extended period of time without paying for a product
> that
> > was obviously of value to you is testament to your desire for a free
> lunch.
> > Well guess what, there AIN'T no such thing as a free lunch, and now
you're
> > being asked to pony up your WAY OVERDUE share of the costs associated
with
> > developing the product.

> > My suggestion is to pay the subscription fee and get on with your life.

> > TZ

BillyTheKi

Doesn't it make you WONDER who keeps making viruses??

by BillyTheKi » Sun, 08 Apr 2001 06:35:33

ignore them and goto http://astalavist.box.sk and just search a crack for
it. you'll have your free copy in no time.
--
Regards
Will

BillyTheKid (no clan)
http://members.ams.chello.nl/m.roos4
essential linkz and cs faq's

............................................................

John -aka SB

Doesn't it make you WONDER who keeps making viruses??

by John -aka SB » Sun, 08 Apr 2001 06:40:03

Now you two characters got my dander up! First off, both of you, McBeasty
and Raven breath - button your pieholes. Nothing is off topic here. Where
you guys get off shooting yer shit around here. Secondly, you're both wrong.
Norton, when bought has a 1 year subscription fee. After 365 days, you have
to purchase another annual subscription. Now that we have that part out of
the way - Don't come in here biting peoples heads off. Virus info is not off
topic anywhere..... In fact, it's initial cost outweighs it's presence.
Somebody has to keep paying these companies to come up with anti-virus dat
files and such. Geeze - Virus software is probably the cheapest software
investment you can make to proctect your systems.... Z3 has never given
anyone any probs around here and indicates it's for his work and such, but
you two class acts come waltzing in here with some kind of chip on your
shoulders.....Same goes for you Dunkle donuts! Keep your mouth at bay -
you'll last longer around here without the wise cracks and such... all of
ya! >:-(
--
SBJ <GD> >>>OUT!<<<
The Gun Dogs
www.thegundogs.org
War is Hell Ladies!
So is that thar hill!




> > I got Norton A/V with my new Intel Motherboard awhile ago. As McAfee has
> > turned into a nightmare at work, I removed it ASAP from my system and
> > installed this Norton. Well, I "Auto-Updated" and "Auto-Update" etc . .
.
> .
> > whenever the popup message said to. Then one day it says I have to PAY
to
> > subscribe in order to Auto-Update! So I thought the HELL with this, and
> > didn't. Well, today I tried to update manually with a file I downloaded
> from
> > Norton, and GUESS WHAT? IT WON'T WORK! It will not update unless I PAY!
> Not
> > too long ago - ALL these, both Norton and McAfee, were FREE! Hell, even
> > McAfee A/V program was FREE to download and use!

> > So, NOW that we have to PAY for Anti-Virus updates, doesn't it make you
> > wonder WHO is creating these viruses now? Cause you sure would not need
> them
> > if new viruses weren't cooked up by SOMEONE! And does some HACKER get
> > anything for what he creates, versus a major company getting BIG $$$$$
> > selling a product? We, the little folk once again GET SCREWED!

> First of all, your post is off topic.

> Second of all, these programs were NEVER free to begin with.  You were
> allowed to download an EVALUATION copy of the software under the agreement
> that you would PAY FOR the product if you kept using it; otherwise you
were
> obliged to REMOVE it from your system once the evaluation period expired.
> The fact that you ignored this rule and continued to update your virus
> definitions for an extended period of time without paying for a product
that
> was obviously of value to you is testament to your desire for a free
lunch.
> Well guess what, there AIN'T no such thing as a free lunch, and now you're
> being asked to pony up your WAY OVERDUE share of the costs associated with
> developing the product.

> My suggestion is to pay the subscription fee and get on with your life.

> TZ

R^A_V_E^N-

Doesn't it make you WONDER who keeps making viruses??

by R^A_V_E^N- » Sun, 08 Apr 2001 06:58:45

Ok 1) this isn't alt.games.half-life.viruses.counter-strike

why not go onto the Symantec message board and *** to them because frankly
half the people in the newsgroup don't care about him and his viruses.

and the fact that he suggest thats the anti-virus compeny is making viruses
so people will need anti virus software is way off base, we only accuse
jackasses of cheating not anti-virus compenys of making virus.

Ok so go back to alt.games.mechwarrior3 and leave us CS people alone about
your stupid ***ing viruses because we dont give a shit.

and dipshit, if you read my post i also said that the updates are free for a
year and after that you have to buy another copy. If he is using it so much
then why is he ***ing about it?

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R^A_V_E^N-

Doesn't it make you WONDER who keeps making viruses??

by R^A_V_E^N- » Sun, 08 Apr 2001 06:59:59

please dont listen to this moron, just buy a new copy or pay the annual fee.

--
This was brought to you by the mind of

R ^ A _ V _ E ^ N - X

accept no substitutes

> ignore them and goto http://astalavist.box.sk and just search a crack for
> it. you'll have your free copy in no time.
> --
> Regards
> Will

> BillyTheKid (no clan)
> http://members.ams.chello.nl/m.roos4
> essential linkz and cs faq's

> ............................................................


> > I got Norton A/V with my new Intel Motherboard awhile ago. As McAfee has
> > turned into a nightmare at work, I removed it ASAP from my system and
> > installed this Norton. Well, I "Auto-Updated" and "Auto-Update" etc . .
.
> .
> > whenever the popup message said to. Then one day it says I have to PAY
to
> > subscribe in order to Auto-Update! So I thought the HELL with this, and
> > didn't. Well, today I tried to update manually with a file I downloaded
> from
> > Norton, and GUESS WHAT? IT WON'T WORK! It will not update unless I PAY!
> Not
> > too long ago - ALL these, both Norton and McAfee, were FREE! Hell, even
> > McAfee A/V program was FREE to download and use!

> > So, NOW that we have to PAY for Anti-Virus updates, doesn't it make you
> > wonder WHO is creating these viruses now? Cause you sure would not need
> them
> > if new viruses weren't cooked up by SOMEONE! And does some HACKER get
> > anything for what he creates, versus a major company getting BIG $$$$$
> > selling a product? We, the little folk once again GET SCREWED!


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