rec.autos.simulators

> > For the last four weeks I have been working on re-texturing and
re-coloring
> > the Sears N2K2 track since winmip2, beta-15 could finally handle the
N2K2
> > mips.  Its not completed....but its enough complete that I though a few
of
> > you guys running the RASCAR race this weekend at Sears might like to try
it.

> > I just got home from the track (confirming a few of the last minutes
signs
> > that were still being painted yesterday)....and want to get this posted
here
> > before I have to leave again for a while.....so I'll not give much of
> > explanation of what is....or is not completed, as of yet.  Maybe I can
do
> > that later tonight when I return?

> > Installation:
> > 1.  Download the file below and unzip all of its contents into the Sears
> > track folder.
> > www.pabst-racing.com/webscreens/sears2k2-main.zip

> > 2.  Create a sub-folder under the Sears track folder called "trackmat"
(must
> > be spelled exactly like that).....then download and unzip the zip file's
> > contents in the second link below....to that sub-folder......this must
be
> > done exactly or the new textures won't be displayed.
> > www.pabst-racing.com/webscreens/sears2k2-trackmat.zip

> > This works pretty much like the GPL tracks......the mip files outside
the
> > track dat will take priority over the ones inside the track dat.  If you
> > want to remove the re-textured/colored track....just remove all the mip
> > files contained in the two zips above from the Sears track
folder....bingo,
> > you'll be back to Papy originals.

> > This is a higher res....but not killer high res.....version than is the
> > Papy's original track.  But, I don't think it will kill anyone's FPS if
you
> > have a good "box" to run N2K2 to start with.  If you have a "marginal"
> > one....probably better not load these textures.

> > Have fun you guys...

> > Tom

> - Eric

> > To make a fair judgment between FPS in OGL and D3D (in N2K2 at
> least)....you
> > need to turn off the "eye candy" in D3D that OGL doesn't have (like
> > light-maps).  Once you have the "eye candy" settings at the same
> > level.......I think you'll find the FPS is higher in D3D.  On my
> > systems....its about 20%.  This has been pretty much solid.....for
> about 2
> > years now.  The only sim I'd prefer to run in OGL is GPL...but you
> can't
> > because of the black screen bug.  Also, if you have a 19" monitor or
> > larger....try a higher screen res (like 1280x32 or 1600x32) and use
> the
> > highest refresh rate your monitor supports.  That won't change the FPS
> > comparison...but it really shows up in D3D.....over OGL graphic
> quality.
> > Systems do vary though.

> Your "attitude" suggests that I withheld that information on purpose.  I
> wasn't aware that it didn't work in OGL until I released the track to you
> RASCAR guys......even stating that it was "unfinished" work (or did you miss
> that?).  This is exactly the reason why I don't (usually) publicly release
> my track texture work....ever.  I do this for myself and few guys who I race
> online with out here at Sears Point.  I am NOT Papyrus....and I'm not
> "selling" my work.......I have neither the time nor the inclination to make
> my tracks work on every f'ing system there is out there in this sim
> community......I'm not obligated to you or anyone to make it work in a
> rendering system I don't use myself.....got it?  By the way, I have a 1.7gig
> AMD (oc'd to around 1.9gigs) and a GF4-ti4600 Nvidia card......I don't agree
> that OGL is better graphically...or faster than....D3D.

> Maybe you were just having a bad day?

> Tom

> > Well Tom, if you're not going to troubleshoot it in any way, then just try
> to make sure that
> > everyone gets the message that your new textures for Sears are not OpenGL
> compatible.  Most if not
> > all nVidia Geforce(2,3,4) card users will be using OpenGL because of
> higher framerates vs. D3D.
> > What video card do you use?  And I also assume you have a 1+GHz processor
> as well?  There are many
> > not that fortunate to have that hw yet...
> > --
> > Biz

> > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
> > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
> > the....." - Ash

> > > Eric...

> > > Seems this is an issue for Klaus Hobrand......not me.  I just use his
> > > tool.....and after converting the bmps back to mips...with
> > > WinMip2beta15....OGL doesn't display them properly (especially the "lm"
> > > mips).  I don't know why....but it doesn't happen in D3D....which is
> what I
> > > run.....so I'm not going to troubleshoot it for Klaus.  You know?

> > > TP

> > > > I don't know what's different about your system or the updated MIPs
> > > > you're using, but lightmaps are fully supported in both the OpenGL and
> > > > D3D renderers.  In fact D3D is the one that is lacking a feature, as
> > > > only the OpenGL renderer supports specular highlights.  So for a true
> > > > test of performance with equal features you'd need to disable specular
> > > > highlights in OpenGL to bring it down to D3D's level.

> > > > - Eric

> > > > > To make a fair judgment between FPS in OGL and D3D (in N2K2 at
> > > > least)....you
> > > > > need to turn off the "eye candy" in D3D that OGL doesn't have (like
> > > > > light-maps).  Once you have the "eye candy" settings at the same
> > > > > level.......I think you'll find the FPS is higher in D3D.  On my
> > > > > systems....its about 20%.  This has been pretty much solid.....for
> > > > about 2
> > > > > years now.  The only sim I'd prefer to run in OGL is GPL...but you
> > > > can't
> > > > > because of the black screen bug.  Also, if you have a 19" monitor or
> > > > > larger....try a higher screen res (like 1280x32 or 1600x32) and use
> > > > the
> > > > > highest refresh rate your monitor supports.  That won't change the
> FPS
> > > > > comparison...but it really shows up in D3D.....over OGL graphic
> > > > quality.
> > > > > Systems do vary though.

> "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
> alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
> the....." - Ash

> > Your "attitude" suggests that I withheld that information on purpose.  I
> > wasn't aware that it didn't work in OGL until I released the track to
you
> > RASCAR guys......even stating that it was "unfinished" work (or did you
miss
> > that?).  This is exactly the reason why I don't (usually) publicly
release
> > my track texture work....ever.  I do this for myself and few guys who I
race
> > online with out here at Sears Point.  I am NOT Papyrus....and I'm not
> > "selling" my work.......I have neither the time nor the inclination to
make
> > my tracks work on every f'ing system there is out there in this sim
> > community......I'm not obligated to you or anyone to make it work in a
> > rendering system I don't use myself.....got it?  By the way, I have a
1.7gig
> > AMD (oc'd to around 1.9gigs) and a GF4-ti4600 Nvidia card......I don't
agree
> > that OGL is better graphically...or faster than....D3D.

> > Maybe you were just having a bad day?

> > Tom

> > > Well Tom, if you're not going to troubleshoot it in any way, then just
try
> > to make sure that
> > > everyone gets the message that your new textures for Sears are not
OpenGL
> > compatible.  Most if not
> > > all nVidia Geforce(2,3,4) card users will be using OpenGL because of
> > higher framerates vs. D3D.
> > > What video card do you use?  And I also assume you have a 1+GHz
processor
> > as well?  There are many
> > > not that fortunate to have that hw yet...
> > > --
> > > Biz

> > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
> > > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular
structures,....and
> > > the....." - Ash

> > > > Eric...

> > > > Seems this is an issue for Klaus Hobrand......not me.  I just use
his
> > > > tool.....and after converting the bmps back to mips...with
> > > > WinMip2beta15....OGL doesn't display them properly (especially the
"lm"
> > > > mips).  I don't know why....but it doesn't happen in D3D....which is
> > what I
> > > > run.....so I'm not going to troubleshoot it for Klaus.  You know?

> > > > TP

> > > > > I don't know what's different about your system or the updated
MIPs
> > > > > you're using, but lightmaps are fully supported in both the OpenGL
and
> > > > > D3D renderers.  In fact D3D is the one that is lacking a feature,
as
> > > > > only the OpenGL renderer supports specular highlights.  So for a
true
> > > > > test of performance with equal features you'd need to disable
specular
> > > > > highlights in OpenGL to bring it down to D3D's level.

> > > > > - Eric

> > > > > > To make a fair judgment between FPS in OGL and D3D (in N2K2 at
> > > > > least)....you
> > > > > > need to turn off the "eye candy" in D3D that OGL doesn't have
(like
> > > > > > light-maps).  Once you have the "eye candy" settings at the same
> > > > > > level.......I think you'll find the FPS is higher in D3D.  On my
> > > > > > systems....its about 20%.  This has been pretty much
solid.....for
> > > > > about 2
> > > > > > years now.  The only sim I'd prefer to run in OGL is GPL...but
you
> > > > > can't
> > > > > > because of the black screen bug.  Also, if you have a 19"
monitor or
> > > > > > larger....try a higher screen res (like 1280x32 or 1600x32) and
use
> > > > > the
> > > > > > highest refresh rate your monitor supports.  That won't change
the
> > FPS
> > > > > > comparison...but it really shows up in D3D.....over OGL graphic
> > > > > quality.
> > > > > > Systems do vary though.