rec.autos.simulators

> I should have listened to my intuition on the first go around
> here........D3D missing textures would cause a "black" blocks....not white
> ones.  That should have told me right away that you guys were running OGL.
> Sorry, my mistake.

> Your only choice is to run D3D....or delete the files and go back to the
> Papy original track for OGL.  I'm not sure why you run OGL......but I'll
not
> get into that debate since its a no-brainer as far as my systems are
> concerned.  But....other's may have something different going on?  Who
> knows?  It would be interesting to hear back from you about the difference
> this track makes in d3d.....and is that possibly also happening in the
other
> tracks for you (no light-maps...for example).....and is this maybe the
first
> time you are seeing the difference?

> I have to laugh about you saying, "nice job"....and so forth.
Because...in
> OGL...this track looks like total garbage!  You were all being
> kind......lol.....  Too funny!

> If I find a solution....(doubt it...because I have no reason to run
> OGL....not in N2K2 at least), I'll post it.  If someone else finds the
> problem......great.

> Regards,

> Tom

> > Yikes...

> > The problem is OpenGL.......I should have checked this first thing last
> > night....but I was late for a meeting.  I can reproduce what you guys
are
> > saying about the buildings...just by switching to OpenGL renderer (all
> else
> > left the same).

> > I don't have a lot a time this morning before I have to leave for the
> > track.....but basically, OpenGL is not rendering any of the TSO textures
> at
> > all.  You are not missing "some" of them....its "all" of them!  It also
> > doesn't use any of the light-map textures....anywhere!  So the trackside
> > grass and hills are not rendered very realistically.   Basically you are
> > looking at about a 50% version of the track I retextured.....also very
> > washed out and pixilated....compared to D3D.  Also, the FPS is about 15%
> > lower (at 32 bit...haven't tried FPS at 16 bit).

> > Change to D3D....take a look at the track and your FPS.....then decide
> what
> > you want to run.

> > In the meantime.....I will see if I can solve what's causing this in the
> > OpenGL renderer.  I'd be interested to know if anyone running OGL is NOT
> > having this issue?

> > TP

> > > For the last four weeks I have been working on re-texturing and
> > re-coloring
> > > the Sears N2K2 track since winmip2, beta-15 could finally handle the
> N2K2
> > > mips.  Its not completed....but its enough complete that I though a
few
> of
> > > you guys running the RASCAR race this weekend at Sears might like to
try
> > it.

> > > I just got home from the track (confirming a few of the last minutes
> signs
> > > that were still being painted yesterday)....and want to get this
posted
> > here
> > > before I have to leave again for a while.....so I'll not give much of
> > > explanation of what is....or is not completed, as of yet.  Maybe I can
> do
> > > that later tonight when I return?

> > > Installation:
> > > 1.  Download the file below and unzip all of its contents into the
Sears
> > > track folder.
> > > www.pabst-racing.com/webscreens/sears2k2-main.zip

> > > 2.  Create a sub-folder under the Sears track folder called "trackmat"
> > (must
> > > be spelled exactly like that).....then download and unzip the zip
file's
> > > contents in the second link below....to that sub-folder......this must
> be
> > > done exactly or the new textures won't be displayed.
> > > www.pabst-racing.com/webscreens/sears2k2-trackmat.zip

> > > This works pretty much like the GPL tracks......the mip files outside
> the
> > > track dat will take priority over the ones inside the track dat.  If
you
> > > want to remove the re-textured/colored track....just remove all the
mip
> > > files contained in the two zips above from the Sears track
> > folder....bingo,
> > > you'll be back to Papy originals.

> > > This is a higher res....but not killer high res.....version than is
the
> > > Papy's original track.  But, I don't think it will kill anyone's FPS
if
> > you
> > > have a good "box" to run N2K2 to start with.  If you have a "marginal"
> > > one....probably better not load these textures.

> > > Have fun you guys...

> > > Tom

> Your only choice is to run D3D....or delete the files and go back to the
> Papy original track for OGL.  I'm not sure why you run OGL......but I'll not
> get into that debate since its a no-brainer as far as my systems are
> concerned.  

> First of all.....N2K2 uses them a lot.  But, you may not notice it too
much
> unless you do a lot of graphics work (or if you run N2K2 in
> OGL...obviously)....because Papy was pretty lazy about using them.
For the
> most part, they only used them to place object shadows.....and did
very
> little "light texturing" with them.  I'm still learning about
> light-maps....and developing a technique for using them to create more
> realistic texture shading.....I hope I'll get better at it over time.
Its
> very tedious....but looks great when you get it right (that's probably
why
> Papy doesn't do anything with them but the very basic stuff...????).

> Here's an example in the Sears track I textured....of how light maps
can be
> used to improve detail and realism:

> The texture files that create all of the surrounding track
surface....grass,
> hills (not the horizon hills and sky)...comes **from only two files.**
> Meaning...these two textures are used to spread the grass....hillside
> grass....over all the surfaces (except the racing surface...duh).
> So...those of you running d3d might say,  "Then how did you get the
grass
> surface next to the edge of the track to be dark....and the curbing
areas
> dirty....etc.?  This is done by using the light-maps...assigned to
various
> "sections" of the textured surface.  The light-map sort of over-lays
the
> surface texture...modifying it (numerically changing the rgb numbers
for the
> texture) as it displayed on the screen.  You can darken or lighten
> texture.....and you can do it specifically in only certain areas....or
apply
> it to the whole texture.  Its very creative.....but not intuitive
(reversed
> fields, subtracted rgb light values...etc.).

> Okay...now you know something about "light-maps"....and one example of
how
> they are used in the track I did for Sears/N2K2.

> Regards,

> Tom

> PS:  Maybe I can go take a couple screenshots in both d3d and
OGL....show
> you the difference?

> "Tom Pabst" <tmpa...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:It1R8.280118$352.26172@sccrnsc02...
> > Sorry Guys.....no quick fix for OpenGL.  I looked at the .ini file
and
> > there's nothing there that solves this problem (same with core.ini
or
> > player.ini......unless there's something that needs to be added in
to the
> > ini files).  Looks like WinMip2, beta-15 doesn't convert the mip
files
> > properly for OGL in N2K2.

> > I should have listened to my intuition on the first go around
> > here........D3D missing textures would cause a "black" blocks....not
white
> > ones.  That should have told me right away that you guys were
running OGL.
> > Sorry, my mistake.

> > Your only choice is to run D3D....or delete the files and go back to
the
> > Papy original track for OGL.  I'm not sure why you run OGL......but
I'll
> not
> > get into that debate since its a no-brainer as far as my systems are
> > concerned.  But....other's may have something different going on?
Who
> > knows?  It would be interesting to hear back from you about the
difference
> > this track makes in d3d.....and is that possibly also happening in
the
> other
> > tracks for you (no light-maps...for example).....and is this maybe
the
> first
> > time you are seeing the difference?

> > I have to laugh about you saying, "nice job"....and so forth.
> Because...in
> > OGL...this track looks like total garbage!  You were all being
> > kind......lol.....  Too funny!

> > If I find a solution....(doubt it...because I have no reason to run
> > OGL....not in N2K2 at least), I'll post it.  If someone else finds
the
> > problem......great.

> > Regards,

> > Tom

> > "Tom Pabst" <tmpa...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > news:zc1R8.39294$EP.3023@sccrnsc03...
> > > Yikes...

> > > The problem is OpenGL.......I should have checked this first thing
last
> > > night....but I was late for a meeting.  I can reproduce what you
guys
> are
> > > saying about the buildings...just by switching to OpenGL renderer
(all
> > else
> > > left the same).

> > > I don't have a lot a time this morning before I have to leave for
the
> > > track.....but basically, OpenGL is not rendering any of the TSO
textures
> > at
> > > all.  You are not missing "some" of them....its "all" of them!  It
also
> > > doesn't use any of the light-map textures....anywhere!  So the
trackside
> > > grass and hills are not rendered very realistically.   Basically
you are
> > > looking at about a 50% version of the track I retextured.....also
very
> > > washed out and pixilated....compared to D3D.  Also, the FPS is
about 15%
> > > lower (at 32 bit...haven't tried FPS at 16 bit).

> > > Change to D3D....take a look at the track and your FPS.....then
decide
> > what
> > > you want to run.

> > > In the meantime.....I will see if I can solve what's causing this
in the
> > > OpenGL renderer.  I'd be interested to know if anyone running OGL
is NOT
> > > having this issue?

> > > TP

> > > "Tom Pabst" <tmpa...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > > news:DUOQ8.127956$6m5.109767@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
> > > > For the last four weeks I have been working on re-texturing and
> > > re-coloring
> > > > the Sears N2K2 track since winmip2, beta-15 could finally handle
the
> > N2K2
> > > > mips.  Its not completed....but its enough complete that I
though a
> few
> > of
> > > > you guys running the RASCAR race this weekend at Sears might
like to
> try
> > > it.

> > > > I just got home from the track (confirming a few of the last
minutes
> > signs
> > > > that were still being painted yesterday)....and want to get this
> posted
> > > here
> > > > before I have to leave again for a while.....so I'll not give
much of
> > > > explanation of what is....or is not completed, as of yet.  Maybe
I can
> > do
> > > > that later tonight when I return?

> > > > Installation:
> > > > 1.  Download the file below and unzip all of its contents into
the
> Sears
> > > > track folder.
> > > > www.pabst-racing.com/webscreens/sears2k2-main.zip

> > > > 2.  Create a sub-folder under the Sears track folder called
"trackmat"
> > > (must
> > > > be spelled exactly like that).....then download and unzip the
zip
> file's
> > > > contents in the second link below....to that

> > > > This works pretty much like the GPL tracks......the mip files
outside
> > the
> > > > track dat will take priority over the ones inside the track dat.
If
> you
> > > > want to remove the re-textured/colored track....just remove all
the
> mip
> > > > files contained in the two zips above from the Sears track
> > > folder....bingo,
> > > > you'll be back to Papy originals.

> > > > This is a higher res....but not killer high res.....version than
is
> the
> > > > Papy's original track.  But, I don't think it will kill anyone's
FPS
> if
> > > you
> > > > have a good "box" to run N2K2 to start with.  If you have a
"marginal"
> > > > one....probably better not load these textures.

> > > > Have fun you guys...

> > > > Tom

> "Tom Pabst" <tmpa...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:GI1R8.280219$352.26070@sccrnsc02...
> > Just a "note" to all of you who don't do graphic work in racing
> > sims......"Light-Maps" might be something you don't know about (they
> are
> > somewhat knew....especially in Papy sims).

> > First of all.....N2K2 uses them a lot.  But, you may not notice it too
> much
> > unless you do a lot of graphics work (or if you run N2K2 in
> > OGL...obviously)....because Papy was pretty lazy about using them.
> For the
> > most part, they only used them to place object shadows.....and did
> very
> > little "light texturing" with them.  I'm still learning about
> > light-maps....and developing a technique for using them to create more
> > realistic texture shading.....I hope I'll get better at it over time.
> Its
> > very tedious....but looks great when you get it right (that's probably
> why
> > Papy doesn't do anything with them but the very basic stuff...????).

> > Here's an example in the Sears track I textured....of how light maps
> can be
> > used to improve detail and realism:

> > The texture files that create all of the surrounding track
> surface....grass,
> > hills (not the horizon hills and sky)...comes **from only two files.**
> > Meaning...these two textures are used to spread the grass....hillside
> > grass....over all the surfaces (except the racing surface...duh).
> > So...those of you running d3d might say,  "Then how did you get the
> grass
> > surface next to the edge of the track to be dark....and the curbing
> areas
> > dirty....etc.?  This is done by using the light-maps...assigned to
> various
> > "sections" of the textured surface.  The light-map sort of over-lays
> the
> > surface texture...modifying it (numerically changing the rgb numbers
> for the
> > texture) as it displayed on the screen.  You can darken or lighten
> > texture.....and you can do it specifically in only certain areas....or
> apply
> > it to the whole texture.  Its very creative.....but not intuitive
> (reversed
> > fields, subtracted rgb light values...etc.).

> > Okay...now you know something about "light-maps"....and one example of
> how
> > they are used in the track I did for Sears/N2K2.

> > Regards,

> > Tom

> > PS:  Maybe I can go take a couple screenshots in both d3d and
> OGL....show
> > you the difference?

> > "Tom Pabst" <tmpa...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > news:It1R8.280118$352.26172@sccrnsc02...
> > > Sorry Guys.....no quick fix for OpenGL.  I looked at the .ini file
> and
> > > there's nothing there that solves this problem (same with core.ini
> or
> > > player.ini......unless there's something that needs to be added in
> to the
> > > ini files).  Looks like WinMip2, beta-15 doesn't convert the mip
> files
> > > properly for OGL in N2K2.

> > > I should have listened to my intuition on the first go around
> > > here........D3D missing textures would cause a "black" blocks....not
> white
> > > ones.  That should have told me right away that you guys were
> running OGL.
> > > Sorry, my mistake.

> > > Your only choice is to run D3D....or delete the files and go back to
> the
> > > Papy original track for OGL.  I'm not sure why you run OGL......but
> I'll
> > not
> > > get into that debate since its a no-brainer as far as my systems are
> > > concerned.  But....other's may have something different going on?
> Who
> > > knows?  It would be interesting to hear back from you about the
> difference
> > > this track makes in d3d.....and is that possibly also happening in
> the
> > other
> > > tracks for you (no light-maps...for example).....and is this maybe
> the
> > first
> > > time you are seeing the difference?

> > > I have to laugh about you saying, "nice job"....and so forth.
> > Because...in
> > > OGL...this track looks like total garbage!  You were all being
> > > kind......lol.....  Too funny!

> > > If I find a solution....(doubt it...because I have no reason to run
> > > OGL....not in N2K2 at least), I'll post it.  If someone else finds
> the
> > > problem......great.

> > > Regards,

> > > Tom

> > > "Tom Pabst" <tmpa...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > > news:zc1R8.39294$EP.3023@sccrnsc03...
> > > > Yikes...

> > > > The problem is OpenGL.......I should have checked this first thing
> last
> > > > night....but I was late for a meeting.  I can reproduce what you
> guys
> > are
> > > > saying about the buildings...just by switching to OpenGL renderer
> (all
> > > else
> > > > left the same).

> > > > I don't have a lot a time this morning before I have to leave for
> the
> > > > track.....but basically, OpenGL is not rendering any of the TSO
> textures
> > > at
> > > > all.  You are not missing "some" of them....its "all" of them!  It
> also
> > > > doesn't use any of the light-map textures....anywhere!  So the
> trackside
> > > > grass and hills are not rendered very realistically.   Basically
> you are
> > > > looking at about a 50% version of the track I retextured.....also
> very
> > > > washed out and pixilated....compared to D3D.  Also, the FPS is
> about 15%
> > > > lower (at 32 bit...haven't tried FPS at 16 bit).

> > > > Change to D3D....take a look at the track and your FPS.....then
> decide
> > > what
> > > > you want to run.

> > > > In the meantime.....I will see if I can solve what's causing this
> in the
> > > > OpenGL renderer.  I'd be interested to know if anyone running OGL
> is NOT
> > > > having this issue?

> > > > TP

> > > > "Tom Pabst" <tmpa...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:DUOQ8.127956$6m5.109767@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
> > > > > For the last four weeks I have been working on re-texturing and
> > > > re-coloring
> > > > > the Sears N2K2 track since winmip2, beta-15 could finally handle
> the
> > > N2K2
> > > > > mips.  Its not completed....but its enough complete that I
> though a
> > few
> > > of
> > > > > you guys running the RASCAR race this weekend at Sears might
> like to
> > try
> > > > it.

> > > > > I just got home from the track (confirming a few of the last
> minutes
> > > signs
> > > > > that were still being painted yesterday)....and want to get this
> > posted
> > > > here
> > > > > before I have to leave again for a while.....so I'll not give
> much of
> > > > > explanation of what is....or is not completed, as of yet.  Maybe
> I can
> > > do
> > > > > that later tonight when I return?

> > > > > Installation:
> > > > > 1.  Download the file below and unzip all of its contents into
> the
> > Sears
> > > > > track folder.
> > > > > www.pabst-racing.com/webscreens/sears2k2-main.zip

> > > > > 2.  Create a sub-folder under the Sears track folder called
> "trackmat"
> > > > (must
> > > > > be spelled exactly like that).....then download and unzip the
> zip
> > file's
> > > > > contents in the second link below....to that
> sub-folder......this must
> > > be
> > > > > done exactly or the new textures won't be displayed.
> > > > > www.pabst-racing.com/webscreens/sears2k2-trackmat.zip

> > > > > This works pretty much like the GPL tracks......the mip files
> outside
> > > the
> > > > > track dat will take priority over the ones inside the track dat.
> If
> > you
> > > > > want to remove the re-textured/colored track....just remove all
> the
> > mip
> > > > > files contained in the two zips above from the Sears track
> > > > folder....bingo,
> > > > > you'll be back to Papy originals.

> > > > > This is a higher res....but not killer high res.....version than
> is
> > the
> > > > > Papy's original track.  But, I don't think it will kill anyone's
> FPS
> > if
> > > > you
> > > > > have a good "box" to run N2K2 to start with.  If you have a
> "marginal"
> > > > > one....probably better not load these textures.

> > > > > Have fun you guys...

> > > > > Tom

> First of all.....N2K2 uses them a lot.  But, you may not notice it too
much
> unless you do a lot of graphics work (or if you run N2K2 in
> OGL...obviously)....because Papy was pretty lazy about using them.  For
the
> most part, they only used them to place object shadows.....and did very
> little "light texturing" with them.  I'm still learning about
> light-maps....and developing a technique for using them to create more
> realistic texture shading.....I hope I'll get better at it over time.  Its
> very tedious....but looks great when you get it right (that's probably why
> Papy doesn't do anything with them but the very basic stuff...????).

> Here's an example in the Sears track I textured....of how light maps can
be
> used to improve detail and realism:

> The texture files that create all of the surrounding track
surface....grass,
> hills (not the horizon hills and sky)...comes **from only two files.**
> Meaning...these two textures are used to spread the grass....hillside
> grass....over all the surfaces (except the racing surface...duh).
> So...those of you running d3d might say,  "Then how did you get the grass
> surface next to the edge of the track to be dark....and the curbing areas
> dirty....etc.?  This is done by using the light-maps...assigned to various
> "sections" of the textured surface.  The light-map sort of over-lays the
> surface texture...modifying it (numerically changing the rgb numbers for
the
> texture) as it displayed on the screen.  You can darken or lighten
> texture.....and you can do it specifically in only certain areas....or
apply
> it to the whole texture.  Its very creative.....but not intuitive
(reversed
> fields, subtracted rgb light values...etc.).

> Okay...now you know something about "light-maps"....and one example of how
> they are used in the track I did for Sears/N2K2.

> Regards,

> Tom

> PS:  Maybe I can go take a couple screenshots in both d3d and OGL....show
> you the difference?

> > Sorry Guys.....no quick fix for OpenGL.  I looked at the .ini file and
> > there's nothing there that solves this problem (same with core.ini or
> > player.ini......unless there's something that needs to be added in to
the
> > ini files).  Looks like WinMip2, beta-15 doesn't convert the mip files
> > properly for OGL in N2K2.

> > I should have listened to my intuition on the first go around
> > here........D3D missing textures would cause a "black" blocks....not
white
> > ones.  That should have told me right away that you guys were running
OGL.
> > Sorry, my mistake.

> > Your only choice is to run D3D....or delete the files and go back to the
> > Papy original track for OGL.  I'm not sure why you run OGL......but I'll
> not
> > get into that debate since its a no-brainer as far as my systems are
> > concerned.  But....other's may have something different going on?  Who
> > knows?  It would be interesting to hear back from you about the
difference
> > this track makes in d3d.....and is that possibly also happening in the
> other
> > tracks for you (no light-maps...for example).....and is this maybe the
> first
> > time you are seeing the difference?

> > I have to laugh about you saying, "nice job"....and so forth.
> Because...in
> > OGL...this track looks like total garbage!  You were all being
> > kind......lol.....  Too funny!

> > If I find a solution....(doubt it...because I have no reason to run
> > OGL....not in N2K2 at least), I'll post it.  If someone else finds the
> > problem......great.

> > Regards,

> > Tom

> > > Yikes...

> > > The problem is OpenGL.......I should have checked this first thing
last
> > > night....but I was late for a meeting.  I can reproduce what you guys
> are
> > > saying about the buildings...just by switching to OpenGL renderer (all
> > else
> > > left the same).

> > > I don't have a lot a time this morning before I have to leave for the
> > > track.....but basically, OpenGL is not rendering any of the TSO
textures
> > at
> > > all.  You are not missing "some" of them....its "all" of them!  It
also
> > > doesn't use any of the light-map textures....anywhere!  So the
trackside
> > > grass and hills are not rendered very realistically.   Basically you
are
> > > looking at about a 50% version of the track I retextured.....also very
> > > washed out and pixilated....compared to D3D.  Also, the FPS is about
15%
> > > lower (at 32 bit...haven't tried FPS at 16 bit).

> > > Change to D3D....take a look at the track and your FPS.....then decide
> > what
> > > you want to run.

> > > In the meantime.....I will see if I can solve what's causing this in
the
> > > OpenGL renderer.  I'd be interested to know if anyone running OGL is
NOT
> > > having this issue?

> > > TP

> > > > For the last four weeks I have been working on re-texturing and
> > > re-coloring
> > > > the Sears N2K2 track since winmip2, beta-15 could finally handle the
> > N2K2
> > > > mips.  Its not completed....but its enough complete that I though a
> few
> > of
> > > > you guys running the RASCAR race this weekend at Sears might like to
> try
> > > it.

> > > > I just got home from the track (confirming a few of the last minutes
> > signs
> > > > that were still being painted yesterday)....and want to get this
> posted
> > > here
> > > > before I have to leave again for a while.....so I'll not give much
of
> > > > explanation of what is....or is not completed, as of yet.  Maybe I
can
> > do
> > > > that later tonight when I return?

> > > > Installation:
> > > > 1.  Download the file below and unzip all of its contents into the
> Sears
> > > > track folder.
> > > > www.pabst-racing.com/webscreens/sears2k2-main.zip

> > > > 2.  Create a sub-folder under the Sears track folder called
"trackmat"
> > > (must
> > > > be spelled exactly like that).....then download and unzip the zip
> file's
> > > > contents in the second link below....to that sub-folder......this
must
> > be
> > > > done exactly or the new textures won't be displayed.
> > > > www.pabst-racing.com/webscreens/sears2k2-trackmat.zip

> > > > This works pretty much like the GPL tracks......the mip files
outside
> > the
> > > > track dat will take priority over the ones inside the track dat.  If
> you
> > > > want to remove the re-textured/colored track....just remove all the
> mip
> > > > files contained in the two zips above from the Sears track
> > > folder....bingo,
> > > > you'll be back to Papy originals.

> > > > This is a higher res....but not killer high res.....version than is
> the
> > > > Papy's original track.  But, I don't think it will kill anyone's FPS
> if
> > > you
> > > > have a good "box" to run N2K2 to start with.  If you have a
"marginal"
> > > > one....probably better not load these textures.

> > > > Have fun you guys...

> > > > Tom

> > Your only choice is to run D3D....or delete the files and go back to the
> > Papy original track for OGL.  I'm not sure why you run OGL......but I'll
not
> > get into that debate since its a no-brainer as far as my systems are
> > concerned.

> Can't speak for your new gfx updates Tom, but on my system NR2002 is
> slightly faster in OGL at 1024x768, so I'm running that :-)

> Haven't had a chance to compare gfx yet as the system (XP1900 and ATI
> Radeon 8500LE 128MB) has only been up and running a few days and time
> has been scarce around here, but initial impressions are that gfx
> quality is about the same, not sure which I prefer yet, this is
> "straight out of the box" settings though and patched to latest version,
> no tweaks or mods neither to the system or NR2002

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

> "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/

> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
> --Groucho Marx--

> > Haq...

> > I think I'm using the general term, "light-maps"......made up of both
> > compiler source and overlay.  I'm talking about the surface texture
> overlay
> > light-maps.  They are mip files (lots of them) used to modify the
> surface
> > texture coloring (add bridge shadows...for example).  I'm sure the sim
> also
> > uses a compiler for sun-source light-mapping.  That's what you are
> referring
> > to....I think?

> > Tom

> One thing I noticed: in the default state of the Sears track, N2002 does
> display (in OpenGL) the shadow under that bridge you show us as an example
> for light mapping. I.e., the OpenGL renderer seems to be capable of
> displaying lightmaps - just not with your graphics or lightmaps.

> Couldn't it indeed just be a header format issue?

> Achim

> > If you want to see a graphic difference between OGL and D3D.....and how
> > light-maps work in N2K2 at least......click the link below.  Its a large
> > compiled graphic...you may need to use your scroll bar.

> > www.pabst-racing.com/webscreens/spr-pr.jpg

> > Tom

> - Eric

> > To make a fair judgment between FPS in OGL and D3D (in N2K2 at
> least)....you
> > need to turn off the "eye candy" in D3D that OGL doesn't have (like
> > light-maps).  Once you have the "eye candy" settings at the same
> > level.......I think you'll find the FPS is higher in D3D.  On my
> > systems....its about 20%.  This has been pretty much solid.....for
> about 2
> > years now.  The only sim I'd prefer to run in OGL is GPL...but you
> can't
> > because of the black screen bug.  Also, if you have a 19" monitor or
> > larger....try a higher screen res (like 1280x32 or 1600x32) and use
> the
> > highest refresh rate your monitor supports.  That won't change the FPS
> > comparison...but it really shows up in D3D.....over OGL graphic
> quality.
> > Systems do vary though.