rec.autos.simulators

Tarkus                             Mark Spencer

www.cris.com/~Tarkus               ***ia Beach, VA

I haven't spent a lot of time in ICR2 yet but I have noticed a number
of things I like there also.

Need For Speed delivered the best graphics of the lot but by far
produced the most arcade-like driving experience falling short of the
other simulators.

My .02,
Lee

If you like stockers, then NASCAR......  

OK?
                       *** S

If you prefer the better-handling INDYCAR feel, and enjoy road racing, then
ICR2 is for you.  An added bonus on this game is the graphic detail.  A
mid-level Pentium should have no problem with full detail on (I don't really
know about anything less than a P100, because that is the only thing I have
played the game on).  

If you are a cheese-dick who is more into arcade type stuff, then NFS is for
you.

Later,
The Lord

Bring on the flames!

Is this the arcade feel of Hard Drivin or Cruisin USA?  Will somebody who
keeps calling this an arcade game please explain the difference between
it and your choice?  You don't need to tell me the difference in appearance
of the cars or even the performance stats, just why one is an arcade game
and one not.  

Who better to ask such an easy question, eh?

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Hmmm... Ture.. Ture... but until anyone of us.. usual, normal, people
tried to drive a REAL F-1 .. then we know how real the game is... for
people who owns a Supra... like me... I know it's pretty real in the
game.. compare to the real car.. except I never try to run the car up
to 162 MPH.....!!!!  So.... I can tell you that N4S can keep me
occupied for a LONG LONG LONG LONG LONG time.... and for the ICR2 .. I
tried the demo.. and deleted it right after I run the first
lap....why?? well.. first of all.. the graphix for the car is good but
what about the road and other stuff?? the smoke looks fake... it's
spins A LOT... even at second gear..!!! maybe I am lack of skill but
for Gravis game pad.... I think I did a pretty good job..!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is something to think about: I don't care why they didn't put
chevy engines in F1.. they have their own reasons and I respect that
but trying to enjoy a game... don't have to know anything that's not
in the game!!!!

REGARDS........... !!

  >- 4 yrs old, 34000 miles, clutch dead at 19000, second alternator by 20000,
  >both front fenders almost rusted off, rod knocking in engine, engine wont
  >run.  It has had meticulous care since new, also.  Yeah, I think you're
  >right, F1 is afraid.

Thats one case.  Remember the ol' Chryslers?  Have an '84 Chrysler EClass
(they were made only 2 years for obvious reasons), has 90,000 miles and
not one problem with the engine, minus normal maintence.  The fact that your
fenders are rusting might have something to do with the thing only having
8500 miles a year put on it.

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That would explain it.

The full game should be stunning. Grand Prix 2 is on the horizon-ish and
should be good too... perhaps the choice would come down to whether
you're a fan of Indy Car or F1?

I have the full NFS and think it's grand. I have an 8mb P5-75 (o/clocked
to 90) and it runs very well with everything on full.

There's something special about driving someone else's ferrari over the
brow of a hill, overtaking some petty BMW, only to find you've a
windscreen full of truck coming in the opposite direction. Also nice is
the way that it never seems to get scratched and there's no cost for
petrol.

It's quite arcadey, although actually simulator-like compared to the
likes of Screamer. I'm afraid to admit in public that I'm of the school
of thought that believes that you can enjoy a game that isn't a simulator
in the purists' sense, and that i find the arguments over the distinction
a bit unnecessary. Still if it keeps people happy then I suppose that's
ok. NFS does give the impression of driving a car, so fulfills that much
of the criteria for being called a simulator. You can power slide (and I
often do...) and handbrake turn/roll, as well as use the horn till your
heart's content! A lot of fun.
A 0.4 from me I fear,

Cheers,
Matt.

There's a difference between people who enjoy racing and people who like to
drive fast.  Speeding is reckless and racing is not. Nascar and the other
sims in question cater to those who endeavor for skill and finesse in their
driving styles. N4S is just an unencumbered streak down the boulevard, or as
I refer to it, "a stress reliever"