rec.autos.simulators

Well, as for the car, I don't own one.....
When I bought (check that, WON!!) ICR2, it ran like a dream...the only
bug that I saw was the paint seam bug, and that was fixed. Sure, I have a
few gripes, the way the field behaves during the pace lap at Indy, etc.,
etc.
BUT I DON'T whine!!! I personally think ICR2 is a great product. When
NASCAR came out, I paid full price for the game, and the T.P.
There were some big problems with NCAR, but I didn't care. I paid hard-
earned cash, and this game was worth it, bugs or no.
  Some of you probably have a right to grumble, and some of you are just
spoiled brats, you know who you are.

   Benjamin Fields

[major snippage]

You have to quote 77 lines to say this? You should probably get a ***ing life so
we don't have to waste time and money on a bonehead newbie post like this.

  The older I get, the better I was
     -Seen on a No Fear shirt-

Yes!!!

Have you ever given birth? (A question that has as much relevance as
yours)

Once again......Its not just that they released a product with some
pretty major bugs(for the 3rd time), it has taken them 8 months to fix
it. Does that seem like a reasonable amount of time to you? If so, you
are hopeless!!!

Enough said!!!

: Mick,
:       Have you ever written a program?

Some of us have.  I know the problems.  The problem as I see it is that
Papyrus has spread themselves thin.  Certain items have taken precedent
over releasing a timely fix to the original ICR2 DOS version.  Should I
be happy that they are working on NASCAR2 / NRL / ICR2 for Win95/Mac?
Yes.  But can I also not be pleased with the fact that I have a product
I bought in Nov '95 to simulate racing which is still "crippled"?  I
think so.  Their decisions were based on "business" concerns.  Well one
of the business concerns they should consider is customer satisfaction.
This can sometimes be based soley on perceptions and gut feelings.  Well
there are plenty out here that have a gut feeling that we have been
slighted on this one.  It is a BIG deal?  No not really, but it can have
it's repercussions -- take a look at Intel & their Pentium bug snafu.

I am not blasting anyone or supporting anyone, just voicing my opinions.
Maybe I shouldn't feel the way I do, but then maybe I am justified.

Having said all of that, I will sit back im-patiently and wait for the
final release of the patch.  At least I know it will eventually arrive.
I still have that much faith in Papyrus and yes even in Sierra On-Line.

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**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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Mike,
        I see your point.  Your irritation at Papyrus is warrented, considering
that the patch still isn't here.  
        On another related point, a friend got and attempted to install the
WIN95 version of Nascar (I think).  It bombed both his systems.  Not really in
the mood to go into details, but it apparently screwed around with his video
drivers.  Not cool.
                                P.

/scott

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Scott Marison, Software Engineer
Sierra On-Line/Papyrus Division