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Swervin Irvan and the DEGA wreck!

Tom Warde

Swervin Irvan and the DEGA wreck!

by Tom Warde » Wed, 07 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Who here thinks that Ernie Irvan (a NASCAR Winston Cup Driver) drove
into the back of Sreling Marlin at Talladega. He said that it was
Sterlings fault. Then Sterling crashed into Dale Earnhardt and sent
him FLYING into the wall practically head on, then D.E. FLIPPED once
onto his side then got hit by 4 MORE CARS! Swervin denied the WHOLE
thing. He said it was Sterlings fault! Can you beleive that, I mean at
least admit to it that you made a mistake! His Crew Cheif said that
Sterling had Ernie all the way down onto the apron in the Tri-oval.
That's a bunce of BULL-SH!T! He drove down there all by himself! He
didn't get much of any damage and walked away as once again "SWERVIN
IRVAN" the HELL RAISER! Erine Irvan is STILL Swervin Irvan to me and I
think he needs MORE medical attention TOO! What do you all think?? I
will await ALL you replys. And I'm sure I'll get PLENTY!

Tom Wardell

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Kevin Earl

Swervin Irvan and the DEGA wreck!

by Kevin Earl » Wed, 07 Aug 1996 04:00:00


> Who here thinks that Ernie Irvan (a NASCAR Winston Cup Driver) drove
> into the back of Sreling Marlin at Talladega. He said that it was
> Sterlings fault. Then Sterling crashed into Dale Earnhardt and sent
> him FLYING into the wall practically head on, then D.E. FLIPPED once
> onto his side then got hit by 4 MORE CARS! Swervin denied the WHOLE
> thing. He said it was Sterlings fault! Can you beleive that, I mean at
> least admit to it that you made a mistake! His Crew Cheif said that
> Sterling had Ernie all the way down onto the apron in the Tri-oval.
> That's a bunce of BULL-SH!T! He drove down there all by himself! He
> didn't get much of any damage and walked away as once again "SWERVIN
> IRVAN" the HELL RAISER! Erine Irvan is STILL Swervin Irvan to me and I
> think he needs MORE medical attention TOO! What do you all think?? I
> will await ALL you replys. And I'm sure I'll get PLENTY!

> Tom Wardell

Well, first off, I will tell you I am a fan of the #28 car (and the #2
and the #88). Secondly, I have went to your page and can certainly tell
that you are an Earnhardt fan, which would substantiate your obvious
bias in the situation. Earnhardt (which of all the chevy drivers I
respect the most) himself said the incident was "just racing". This same
thread ran its course on Compuserve two weeks ago, starting the same way
as this one. DE himself has done the same type of thing before (remember
when he got together with Rusty and sent him flying?) which, in my
opinion, was also just part of racing. These drivers hang it out on the
edge every race, especially when they are at Talladega, where the cars
got 200 mph just inches apart. I concur with Earnhardt that the incident
was just racing and let it go at that.

Kevin

Mark Fiel

Swervin Irvan and the DEGA wreck!

by Mark Fiel » Wed, 07 Aug 1996 04:00:00

That's right,  but D.E. wrecks people intentionally!  D.E.  is the dirtiest driver
in NASCAR,  there's no doubt about it!

Mark

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Ron R.

Swervin Irvan and the DEGA wreck!

by Ron R. » Thu, 08 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Like I've been saying,

Well now from the looks of it I should be thanking CBS Portland, OR.
        Got to see the whole race with just updates on the reg
scheduled golf tourney after the last wreck.
BTW: personal opinion, it looked to me (as well as could tell from
cruddy camera angles) like Ernie drifted up at his right front at the
same time as Sterling drifted down into corner and voila, 14 cars ala
la'machine!!
As the real pros would say, It was just one of those racing things.

I personaly think that we need to keep the bigger picture in mind and
be thankful that there were no career ending/life threatening
injuries. I for one couldn't believe it when Dale was able to walk to
the ambulance after watching his car roll over and get tagged 3 more
times, once in the roof. It says a lot for how the sport has advanced
in saftey and building tech when you can see 14 cars involved in
something like that and everyone lives. Not to long ago they'd of
hauled at least one driver out in the heli if not the coroners van.

I could sit here and howl about who did what but my feeling is that
while everyone has a favorite driver, the sport is about the race
itself, not the petty bickering about laying blame. After all, at 200+
shit happens and that's the whole story. Does anyone see the teams
which had mega $ worth of car destroyed talking the kind of sadly
pitiful crud that has flown around here lately? Have any of the
flamers against driver A or B ever driven a car at Taladega? I don't
know but I doubt it, lets not lose the big picture here folks and just
be thankful we even have a sport like this to watch.

Maybe this will draw flames, maybe not, I hope and like to think we
are mature enough to be beyond that. I try to remain objective and
simply enjoy the sport without laying blame when "my" driver is
knocked out or when "my" driver does the knocking.

Ron R II
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Tom Warde

Swervin Irvan and the DEGA wreck!

by Tom Warde » Thu, 08 Aug 1996 04:00:00



>> Who here thinks that Ernie Irvan (a NASCAR Winston Cup Driver) drove
>> into the back of Sreling Marlin at Talladega. He said that it was
>> Sterlings fault. Then Sterling crashed into Dale Earnhardt and sent
>> him FLYING into the wall practically head on, then D.E. FLIPPED once
>> onto his side then got hit by 4 MORE CARS! Swervin denied the WHOLE
>> thing. He said it was Sterlings fault! Can you beleive that, I mean at
>> least admit to it that you made a mistake! His Crew Cheif said that
>> Sterling had Ernie all the way down onto the apron in the Tri-oval.
>> That's a bunce of BULL-SH!T! He drove down there all by himself! He
>> didn't get much of any damage and walked away as once again "SWERVIN
>> IRVAN" the HELL RAISER! Erine Irvan is STILL Swervin Irvan to me and I
>> think he needs MORE medical attention TOO! What do you all think?? I
>> will await ALL you replys. And I'm sure I'll get PLENTY!

>> Tom Wardell

>Well, first off, I will tell you I am a fan of the #28 car (and the #2
>and the #88). Secondly, I have went to your page and can certainly tell
>that you are an Earnhardt fan, which would substantiate your obvious
>bias in the situation. Earnhardt (which of all the chevy drivers I
>respect the most) himself said the incident was "just racing". This same
>thread ran its course on Compuserve two weeks ago, starting the same way
>as this one. DE himself has done the same type of thing before (remember
>when he got together with Rusty and sent him flying?) which, in my
>opinion, was also just part of racing. These drivers hang it out on the
>edge every race, especially when they are at Talladega, where the cars
>got 200 mph just inches apart. I concur with Earnhardt that the incident
>was just racing and let it go at that.
>Kevin

YES I'M A 100% DE FAN, AND PROUD OF IT! True DE did hit RW in 1994,
BUT at least he admitted to it and whet to go see if he was alright
after the wreck! EI didn't even think he had ANY FAULT! I mean ADMIT
that you made a mistake and thats that! Even his ccrew cheif wouldn't
admit up to EI making a POSSIBLY mistake, he said that it was SM
fault! WRONG. I'll wait to hear from ya.

Tom Wardell

Kevin Earl

Swervin Irvan and the DEGA wreck!

by Kevin Earl » Thu, 08 Aug 1996 04:00:00


> YES I'M A 100% DE FAN, AND PROUD OF IT! True DE did hit RW in 1994,
> BUT at least he admitted to it and whet to go see if he was alright
> after the wreck! EI didn't even think he had ANY FAULT! I mean ADMIT
> that you made a mistake and thats that! Even his ccrew cheif wouldn't
> admit up to EI making a POSSIBLY mistake, he said that it was SM
> fault! WRONG. I'll wait to hear from ya.

> Tom Wardell

I admit Irvan and his crew chief could have handled it better, and from
what I could see from the replays, it looks like he did drift up to hit
Marlin's rear end.

I just wonder how things would have turned out if it were someone like
Gordon or T. Labonte was in Irvan's position and the accident occured
with similar results? I bet you bowtie fans wouldn't have said anything
except what Earnhardt had already said, "It's just racing," and let it
go at that.

Kevin

Michael E. Carv

Swervin Irvan and the DEGA wreck!

by Michael E. Carv » Thu, 08 Aug 1996 04:00:00

[totally snipped]

Wrong newsgroup!!!  Pure flamebait.  Similar to other flamebait left by
this poster in other threads.  Cruisin' for a bruisin'  --- Twit file
get ready......

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David J. Han

Swervin Irvan and the DEGA wreck!

by David J. Han » Thu, 08 Aug 1996 04:00:00


> Who here thinks that Ernie Irvan (a NASCAR Winston Cup Driver) drove
> into the back of Sreling Marlin at Talladega. He said that it was
> Sterlings fault. Then Sterling crashed into Dale Earnhardt and sent
> him FLYING into the wall practically head on, then D.E. FLIPPED once
> onto his side then got hit by 4 MORE CARS! Swervin denied the WHOLE
> thing. He said it was Sterlings fault! Can you beleive that, I mean at
> least admit to it that you made a mistake! His Crew Cheif said that
> Sterling had Ernie all the way down onto the apron in the Tri-oval.
> That's a bunce of BULL-SH!T! He drove down there all by himself! He
> didn't get much of any damage and walked away as once again "SWERVIN
> IRVAN" the HELL RAISER! Erine Irvan is STILL Swervin Irvan to me and I
> think he needs MORE medical attention TOO! What do you all think?? I
> will await ALL you replys. And I'm sure I'll get PLENTY!

> Tom Wardell

I think you should take your 'opinions' to r.a.s.n., where people have
been been discussing this for the past week and a half.  It doesn't
belong here.

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Tom Warde

Swervin Irvan and the DEGA wreck!

by Tom Warde » Thu, 08 Aug 1996 04:00:00



>> YES I'M A 100% DE FAN, AND PROUD OF IT! True DE did hit RW in 1994,
>> BUT at least he admitted to it and whet to go see if he was alright
>> after the wreck! EI didn't even think he had ANY FAULT! I mean ADMIT
>> that you made a mistake and thats that! Even his ccrew cheif wouldn't
>> admit up to EI making a POSSIBLY mistake, he said that it was SM
>> fault! WRONG. I'll wait to hear from ya.

>> Tom Wardell
>I admit Irvan and his crew chief could have handled it better, and from
>what I could see from the replays, it looks like he did drift up to hit
>Marlin's rear end.
>I just wonder how things would have turned out if it were someone like
>Gordon or T. Labonte was in Irvan's position and the accident occured
>with similar results? I bet you bowtie fans wouldn't have said anything
>except what Earnhardt had already said, "It's just racing," and let it
>go at that.
>Kevin

Kevin,
Well I HATE Gordon MORE than I dislike Ivan! In fact I call him
***BOY!!! If Gordon had done it I'd of had 10x larger tread!

Tom

Mike Carrother

Swervin Irvan and the DEGA wreck!

by Mike Carrother » Fri, 09 Aug 1996 04:00:00



>> YES I'M A 100% DE FAN, AND PROUD OF IT! True DE did hit RW in 1994,
>> BUT at least he admitted to it and whet to go see if he was alright
>> after the wreck! EI didn't even think he had ANY FAULT! I mean ADMIT
>> that you made a mistake and thats that! Even his ccrew cheif
wouldn't
>> admit up to EI making a POSSIBLY mistake, he said that it was SM
>> fault! WRONG. I'll wait to hear from ya.

If you'll watch the replay real close, you'll see just before the
touch, Ernie was forced down onto the apron. Unlike in the sim, when
you do this in a real car, you will slip up the track. Maybe he should
have backed off, but would you (or that "Take'em out if they wont move"
guy Dale).

Mike

AdLevesq

Swervin Irvan and the DEGA wreck!

by AdLevesq » Fri, 09 Aug 1996 04:00:00

It was just racin'.  Marlin came down a little and squeezed Ervan down
onto the apron.  Once he got the two left side tires on the apron, the car
came back up the track, as it will when that happens.  With no where else
to go, he drifted into Marlin.  That was certainly nothing like Earnhardt
taking out Hamilton earlier in the year :).

Adam
Papyrus

W. Egerstaffe

Swervin Irvan and the DEGA wreck!

by W. Egerstaffe » Fri, 09 Aug 1996 04:00:00

What the hell does this have to do with sim racing. Go to the nascar
newgroup where this was debated for the last week.
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> > Who here thinks that Ernie Irvan (a NASCAR Winston Cup Driver) drove
> > into the back of Sreling Marlin at Talladega. He said that it was
> > Sterlings fault. Then Sterling crashed into Dale Earnhardt and sent
> > him FLYING into the wall practically head on, then D.E. FLIPPED once
> > onto his side then got hit by 4 MORE CARS! Swervin denied the WHOLE
> > thing. He said it was Sterlings fault! Can you beleive that, I mean at
> > least admit to it that you made a mistake! His Crew Cheif said that
> > Sterling had Ernie all the way down onto the apron in the Tri-oval.
> > That's a bunce of BULL-SH!T! He drove down there all by himself! He
> > didn't get much of any damage and walked away as once again "SWERVIN
> > IRVAN" the HELL RAISER! Erine Irvan is STILL Swervin Irvan to me and I
> > think he needs MORE medical attention TOO! What do you all think?? I
> > will await ALL you replys. And I'm sure I'll get PLENTY!

> > Tom Wardell

Tom Warde

Swervin Irvan and the DEGA wreck!

by Tom Warde » Fri, 09 Aug 1996 04:00:00


>What the hell does this have to do with sim racing. Go to the nascar
>newgroup where this was debated for the last week.
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Tom Warde

Swervin Irvan and the DEGA wreck!

by Tom Warde » Fri, 09 Aug 1996 04:00:00




>>> YES I'M A 100% DE FAN, AND PROUD OF IT! True DE did hit RW in 1994,
>>> BUT at least he admitted to it and whet to go see if he was alright
>>> after the wreck! EI didn't even think he had ANY FAULT! I mean ADMIT
>>> that you made a mistake and thats that! Even his ccrew cheif
>wouldn't
>>> admit up to EI making a POSSIBLY mistake, he said that it was SM
>>> fault! WRONG. I'll wait to hear from ya.
>If you'll watch the replay real close, you'll see just before the
>touch, Ernie was forced down onto the apron. Unlike in the sim, when
>you do this in a real car, you will slip up the track. Maybe he should
>have backed off, but would you (or that "Take'em out if they wont move"
>guy Dale).
>Mike

Didn't you hear what his crew cheif said: "If we had backed off we'd
of lost several positions", him and Ernie  are starting to cry like
Gordon and Wallace tend to do "SOMETIME". I shouldn't of said that but
I want to see what people would say! Waiting to get yelled at.

Tom Wardell

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Keith Spero

Swervin Irvan and the DEGA wreck!

by Keith Spero » Fri, 09 Aug 1996 04:00:00





>>> Who here thinks that Ernie Irvan (a NASCAR Winston Cup Driver) drove
>>> into the back of Sreling Marlin at Talladega. He said that it was
>>> Sterlings fault. Then Sterling crashed into Dale Earnhardt and sent
>>> him FLYING into the wall practically head on, then D.E. FLIPPED once
>>> onto his side then got hit by 4 MORE CARS! Swervin denied the WHOLE
>>> thing. He said it was Sterlings fault! Can you beleive that, I mean at
>>> least admit to it that you made a mistake! His Crew Cheif said that
>>> Sterling had Ernie all the way down onto the apron in the Tri-oval.
>>> That's a bunce of BULL-SH!T! He drove down there all by himself! He
>>> didn't get much of any damage and walked away as once again "SWERVIN
>>> IRVAN" the HELL RAISER! Erine Irvan is STILL Swervin Irvan to me and I
>>> think he needs MORE medical attention TOO! What do you all think?? I
>>> will await ALL you replys. And I'm sure I'll get PLENTY!

>>> Tom Wardell

>>I think you should take your 'opinions' to r.a.s.n., where people have
>>been been discussing this for the past week and a half.  It doesn't
>>belong here.

>>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>THAT'S YOUR OPINION!!!!!

And alot of other peoples. Who gives a ***it's over, and Earnhardt
is allright. If he was on a resporator right now fine, then you argue,
but i'm sick of this thread.

Keith Speroni


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