Cheers,
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Trevor
Nb Lady Elgar - Grand Union C***
As a kid I once build a Lego truck, with the steering going to wrong
way. Young aspiring engeneers do get a bit creative with the mechanics
sometimes :)
What really puzzled me is the new tendencies to build a joystick into
the cars instead of pedals and wheels. Seems like a good idea, but
think about when you first bought a wheel and went "Whooaa, I can do
stuff now that was useless with joystick". Trailbraking is coming to mind.
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Olav K. Malmin
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Hi!
Yeah, but how often do you trailbrake with your car when you're driving to work? ;))
Regards
Crash
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> Hi!
> > What really puzzled me is the new tendencies to build a joystick into
> > the cars instead of pedals and wheels. Seems like a good idea, but
> > think about when you first bought a wheel and went "Whooaa, I can do
> > stuff now that was useless with joystick". Trailbraking is coming to mind.
> Yeah, but how often do you trailbrake with your car when you're driving to work? ;))
> Regards
> Crash
-Gregor
> Hi!
> > What really puzzled me is the new tendencies to build a joystick into
> > the cars instead of pedals and wheels. Seems like a good idea, but
> > think about when you first bought a wheel and went "Whooaa, I can do
> > stuff now that was useless with joystick". Trailbraking is coming to mind.
> Yeah, but how often do you trailbrake with your car when you're driving to work? ;))
But it is pretty scary, specially on the open highway, when I'm
braking late and into the corner, use racelines (on my own lane of
couse) and so on.
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> > Hi!
> > > What really puzzled me is the new tendencies to build a joystick into
> > > the cars instead of pedals and wheels. Seems like a good idea, but
> > > think about when you first bought a wheel and went "Whooaa, I can do
> > > stuff now that was useless with joystick". Trailbraking is coming to mind.
> > Yeah, but how often do you trailbrake with your car when you're driving to work? ;))
> > Regards
> > Crash
> Not to mention that it is a DBW (drive-by-wire) system that will trail
> brake better than you could unless your last name is Schumacher :).
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> Hi!
> > What really puzzled me is the new tendencies to build a joystick into
> > the cars instead of pedals and wheels. Seems like a good idea, but
> > think about when you first bought a wheel and went "Whooaa, I can do
> > stuff now that was useless with joystick". Trailbraking is coming to mind.
> Yeah, but how often do you trailbrake with your car when you're driving to work? ;))
Seriously though, I drive my car all time as if I was racing, except for
the speeds of course, lots of stuff you do when you drive your car at
maximum speed at a race track can be used to drive more safely on the
road, left foot braking springs to mind, and I always try to hit the
apex of a corner just right, even though I use only one lane and
all that stuff, I believe it makes me a safer driver, not to mention
that these things become more instinctively and I can do them better on
those occasions where I get to drive on a track...so Joystick ?
Bah !!! :-)
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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> The other day I accidentally set up my wheel incorrectly - throttle, brakes
> and gears were OK but the steering was reversed i.e. right-hand lock
> produced left turn! Now that makes things *really* difficult - I wonder
> whether it is possible to complete a lap with this setup?
> By the bye, when I was in the army there was reputed to be a training
> vehicle rigged this way - sounds unlikely but then a lot of things that
> happened in the army *sounded* unlikely :o)
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> I admit it, the trailbrake example was not the best one. I just don't
> like the idea of limiting my options while driving a car which is
> lethal when used wrong.
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-Gregor
Consider that on a normal road, as opposed to the track, you'll have a lot of
***(bottles, mufflers, glass, oil, water) collecting at the lowest point on
the road, ie the apex. Ditto for where drivers usually aren't (right on the
lane dividers). And, of course, lane dividers tend to be slicker. Also, by
keeping yourself more centered, you have more breathing room from unexpected
events such as mom/pop drifting over, a squirrel or deer bolting from the side
of the road, etc. Motorcyclists try to give themselves this extra breathing
room. Watch how they drive. So, IMHO, if you are using all the road, even
just your lane, you are probably risking your tires, and yourself more than if
you didn't.
Basically, I expect that you are an alert driver if you are driving as you
say, which is probably the biggest factor, a huge plus. But, OTOH, the real
world just isn't designed for driving a car as if racing, or for using every
bit of even just your lane. Not that this bit of advice is followed by its
author at all times :-)
Hi!
Yeah, but how often do you trailbrake with your car when you're driving to
work? ;))
Regards
Crash
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I always trailbrake on the street. The car is much more stable that way,
since you arn't on the limit. It really helps the car "set" into the corner.
At the very least I always at least lift, for the same reason, even for
corners that don't require slowing down.
The mind is amazingly adaptable, you could easily learn to drive like
this. As a matter of fact that is how you steer a motorcycle, turn
the bars left to go right.
--
Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.
Hi!
It seems that we're talking about two different techniques here. How do you define traibraking? For me, trailbraking means turning into the corner while still being on the brake and (now it comes!), always being on the edge of the traction circle, that is, the more I turn in and need lateral traction, the less I brake. What you probably mean is to brake while turning in, but not at the edge of traction. Thats quite "normal" driving - almost everyone I know who plays GPL has adapted this driving style from the computer to the car because, and there you're right, it makes driving safer. I also do it most of the time - but only if the streets are empty and there is no cop in sight I do the "real" thing ;))) (oh yes, we have some nice twitchy roads down here in Bavaria).
Regards
Crash
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