now my time at Monza is under 3 minutes :-)
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now my time at Monza is under 3 minutes :-)
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- Matt
> > The other day I accidentally set up my wheel incorrectly - throttle, brakes
> > and gears were OK but the steering was reversed i.e. right-hand lock
> > produced left turn! Now that makes things *really* difficult - I wonder
> > whether it is possible to complete a lap with this setup?
> I hear you, but...
> Consider that on a normal road, as opposed to the track, you'll have a lot of
> ***(bottles, mufflers, glass, oil, water) collecting at the lowest point on
> the road, ie the apex. Ditto for where drivers usually aren't (right on the
> lane dividers). And, of course, lane dividers tend to be slicker. Also, by
> keeping yourself more centered, you have more breathing room from unexpected
> events such as mom/pop drifting over, a squirrel or deer bolting from the side
> of the road, etc. Motorcyclists try to give themselves this extra breathing
> room. Watch how they drive. So, IMHO, if you are using all the road, even
> just your lane, you are probably risking your tires, and yourself more than if
> you didn't.
> Basically, I expect that you are an alert driver if you are driving as you
> say, which is probably the biggest factor, a huge plus. But, OTOH, the real
> world just isn't designed for driving a car as if racing, or for using every
> bit of even just your lane. Not that this bit of advice is followed by its
> author at all times :-)
What is the safer driving, me bored to death and half asleep dead center
in my lane (yes, I think I can do that even fully asleep after 18 years
:-) or totally awake and alert using all of my lane ?
And no, there's no way I could stay totally awake and alert driving
normally, that is so incredibly boring I can't even find proper words to
describe how I feel :-)
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> If you want to split hairs :-).......
> What is the safer driving, me bored to death and half asleep dead center
> in my lane (yes, I think I can do that even fully asleep after 18 years
> :-) or totally awake and alert using all of my lane ?
> And no, there's no way I could stay totally awake and alert driving
> normally, that is so incredibly boring I can't even find proper words to
> describe how I feel :-)
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> You're dead right. I've done my share of driving long stints between
> Trondheim, Oslo and Stavanger (6-8 hours), and it is always safer to
> focus on how you drive, and not just put the car on the road. Doing
> racelines is one of many tricks. It is also a faster way to drive withing the
> speed-limit. It has happend many times that I have been overtaken by
> mindless speeders on the straight, only to close the gap in the twisty
> parts of the road by just using that extra 50 cm's of road. And in
> Norway there are a lot of places where maintaining the speed limit are
> completely impossible.
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> > You're dead right. I've done my share of driving long stints between
> > Trondheim, Oslo and Stavanger (6-8 hours), and it is always safer to
> > focus on how you drive, and not just put the car on the road. Doing
> > racelines is one of many tricks. It is also a faster way to drive withing the
> > speed-limit. It has happend many times that I have been overtaken by
> > mindless speeders on the straight, only to close the gap in the twisty
> > parts of the road by just using that extra 50 cm's of road. And in
> > Norway there are a lot of places where maintaining the speed limit are
> > completely impossible.
> Here here, we should form some kind of organization to further our POV,
> maybe we could get some governmental backing or something :-)
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> Hehe, that would have been something. Have to ask the traffic
> behaviour expert here at work (I work with traffic and transportation
> research, www.sintef.no/units/civil/transp) about this.
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It's called "counter steering", and I guarantee your doing it. Go to one of the
motorcycle newsgroups and ask "what's all this counter steering bullshit" and
see what happens ;)
You just did. Better duck.
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Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.
The real question is how many of you transition from threshold braking to
trail braking on the streets. There are few opportunities for that around
here, and that's just as well. (Threshold braking on the street is just
plain dumb. I'm far from conservative, but consider that to border on
homicidal.)
Michael.
Yeah, but how often do you trailbrake with your car when you're driving to
work? ;))
Try turning your monitor upside down.
Frank
On Fri, 26 May 2000 11:23:46 +0100, "Trevor Pavitt"
>Cheers,
> > You're dead right. I've done my share of driving long stints between
> > Trondheim, Oslo and Stavanger (6-8 hours), and it is always safer to
> > focus on how you drive, and not just put the car on the road. Doing
> > racelines is one of many tricks. It is also a faster way to drive withing the
> > speed-limit. It has happend many times that I have been overtaken by
> > mindless speeders on the straight, only to close the gap in the twisty
> > parts of the road by just using that extra 50 cm's of road. And in
> > Norway there are a lot of places where maintaining the speed limit are
> > completely impossible.
> Here here, we should form some kind of organization to further our POV,
> maybe we could get some governmental backing or something :-)
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> Well, I just talked to a traffic behaviour psychologist (sp?) about
> this, and he said he also drove ideal lines on the road, and it was a
> very good idea to drive active to prevent getting tired. He also said
> that the driving schools also teach ideal line driving on the
> countryside roads. But of course, watch out in the left turn for
> oncoming traffic in the middle of the road.
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> > Well, I just talked to a traffic behaviour psychologist (sp?) about
> > this, and he said he also drove ideal lines on the road, and it was a
> > very good idea to drive active to prevent getting tired. He also said
> > that the driving schools also teach ideal line driving on the
> > countryside roads. But of course, watch out in the left turn for
> > oncoming traffic in the middle of the road.
> So, basically, we were right then ? :-)
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> > > Well, I just talked to a traffic behaviour psychologist (sp?) about
> > > this, and he said he also drove ideal lines on the road, and it was a
> > > very good idea to drive active to prevent getting tired. He also said
> > > that the driving schools also teach ideal line driving on the
> > > countryside roads. But of course, watch out in the left turn for
> > > oncoming traffic in the middle of the road.
> > So, basically, we were right then ? :-)
> Yeah, both right and incredibly smart :)
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