rec.autos.simulators

> >Hi Tim. What's your general verdict on the Act-Labs stuff ? I'm
considering
> >ordering the Force RS

> It's excellent.

> > On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:31:11 -0000, "redTed"

> > >Hi Tim. What's your general verdict on the Act-Labs stuff ? I'm
> considering
> > >ordering the Force RS

> > It's excellent.

> Don't beat around the bush, rrevved, what's it like ?  ;-)

> Recently I was contacted by someone (well known in the VROC sim community)
> who had been given a set of the new Act Lab pedals.  He didn't care for
> them.....he did like their wheel and wanted to keep it, but was searching
> for alternative pedal set (and was asking me some questions about the BRD
> pedals).  This doesn't mean the Act Labs pedals aren't good....its just
one
> person's like or dislike of them.  But, as I read this post and the
> following strings, with this recent "email" in mind....it occurred to me
> that many of the sim community members have been given "sim equipment" -
its
> not just Act Labs who does this - in order to promote the product(s).
> That's a perfectly legitimate thing for a company to do (IMHO).  What I
> would like to see is every sim community member who "talks up or
recommends"
> a product they've been given for free by the company to do just
that.....at
> least say so as a form of "disclaimer" at the end of their
> post/recommendation.  That doesn't "discredit" the recommendation.....it
> just puts the proper light on it.....IMHO.

> I suppose this will need to be something of a "voluntary" thing with the
sim
> community members who've been given equipment.  I'd like to see the other
> sim equipment manufacturers do something like we will be doing with anyone
> we sponsor equipment to.  That is, included in our written sponsor
agreement
> will be a statement that "requires" the user/sponsoree to disclose that
fact
> in any recommendation they make in a sim community newsgroup or
> public/private forum about our products.

> I don't know if Ed or rrevved have been sponsored a set of Act Lab pedals
or
> not.....nor am I saying they'd recommend them only on that basis.  I doubt
> they would and I'm not questioning their integrity on the matter.  What I
am
> saying is, let's say we've been given something for free....when we
> recommend it publicly.  I think that on the contrary, it lends credibility
> to your statement about the product, not discredits it.

> Just my "thoughts" on the topic as I first read this post/string.

> Regards,

> Tom

> > I was racing at vroc when I noticed the resistance on the brake pedal of
> my
> > upgraded performance pedals was decreasing and I wasn't able to lock my
> > wheels anymore.
> > When I pressed the brake with my hand it just snapped.
> > Why do they use plastic shafts for a pedal who has to substain such
> > pressures?
> > I've had it for about a month and it's already broken.
> > I wonder if there are more people who had that? I wouldn't be surprised
> > really.

> > I'm pretty sure Actlabs will solve my problem but I hope I won't be back
> > with another broken one within the month!
> > Please Actlabs, I hope you guys figure out a fix for it.

> > Luckily there's a spare pedal on them, so I can continue racing. ;)

> Seriously tho.... Like my press release (posted 5-6 months ago) said,
> Act-Labs Ltd. sponsored my ESCORS-car with a GPL USB-shifter...   These
> pedals on the other hand is something I've bought for very own my hard
> earned cash and that I've had sent half the way around the globe (at a
cost
> greater than the pedals (sadly)).  I just received them some weeks ago and
I
> love them.  Compared to the old MSFF pedals they got much better feel and
> "bite"

> There are however, also things I think could have been improved - just
like
> there is with everything. *Nothing* is perfect :-)  Compared to what other
> pedals I've had or seen out there tho - these Act-labs items rocks.

> --
> ed_

> I think its pretty general knowledge that we have had a relationship with
> BRD that goes back several years......but even still, I try to say "we are
a
> dealer for BRD" when ever I recommend their stuff....or talk about it.  I
> may have forgotten a few times....but I think those would be in the
minority
> of circumstances.

> I want to make sure you know I didn't mean to single you out on my post
> above.  In fact, from memory I was pretty sure you had not been
"sponsored"
> a set of Act Lab pedals.  But, it was your post that reminded me of the
> "issue"....so that's the only reason I responded to it.  I hope that's
"ok"
> with you?

> I have not tried the new Act Lab pedals myself yet (but I have already
> purchased their GPL USB shifter....like 8 times).....but the majority of
> people I've talked to who are using them....say they "like them."  That's
> certainly a vote in favor of the pedals.  I personally just don't like any
> pedals that are designed to be used from a sitting position....like in a
> desk chair.  But, that's a personal preference.......not applicable to
most
> sim racers I'd think?

> Regards,

> Tom

> > You mean like you and BRD Tom?
> > ;-)

> > Seriously tho.... Like my press release (posted 5-6 months ago) said,
> > Act-Labs Ltd. sponsored my ESCORS-car with a GPL USB-shifter...   These
> > pedals on the other hand is something I've bought for very own my hard
> > earned cash and that I've had sent half the way around the globe (at a
> cost
> > greater than the pedals (sadly)).  I just received them some weeks ago
and
> I
> > love them.  Compared to the old MSFF pedals they got much better feel
and
> > "bite"

> > There are however, also things I think could have been improved - just
> like
> > there is with everything. *Nothing* is perfect :-)  Compared to what
other
> > pedals I've had or seen out there tho - these Act-labs items rocks.

> > --
> > ed_

> I find it amusing that you didn't even nominate your BRD connection in
your
> first post on this topic, although you alluded to it.

> Ben

> > lol...."yes Ed"....like me and BRD.

> > I think its pretty general knowledge that we have had a relationship
with
> > BRD that goes back several years......but even still, I try to say "we
are
> a
> > dealer for BRD" when ever I recommend their stuff....or talk about it.
I
> > may have forgotten a few times....but I think those would be in the
> minority
> > of circumstances.

> > I want to make sure you know I didn't mean to single you out on my post
> > above.  In fact, from memory I was pretty sure you had not been
> "sponsored"
> > a set of Act Lab pedals.  But, it was your post that reminded me of the
> > "issue"....so that's the only reason I responded to it.  I hope that's
> "ok"
> > with you?

> > I have not tried the new Act Lab pedals myself yet (but I have already
> > purchased their GPL USB shifter....like 8 times).....but the majority of
> > people I've talked to who are using them....say they "like them."
That's
> > certainly a vote in favor of the pedals.  I personally just don't like
any
> > pedals that are designed to be used from a sitting position....like in a
> > desk chair.  But, that's a personal preference.......not applicable to
> most
> > sim racers I'd think?

> > Regards,

> > Tom

> > > You mean like you and BRD Tom?
> > > ;-)

> > > Seriously tho.... Like my press release (posted 5-6 months ago) said,
> > > Act-Labs Ltd. sponsored my ESCORS-car with a GPL USB-shifter...
These
> > > pedals on the other hand is something I've bought for very own my hard
> > > earned cash and that I've had sent half the way around the globe (at a
> > cost
> > > greater than the pedals (sadly)).  I just received them some weeks ago
> and
> > I
> > > love them.  Compared to the old MSFF pedals they got much better feel
> and
> > > "bite"

> > > There are however, also things I think could have been improved - just
> > like
> > > there is with everything. *Nothing* is perfect :-)  Compared to what
> other
> > > pedals I've had or seen out there tho - these Act-labs items rocks.

> > > --
> > > ed_