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Speaker Opinions....Which kind to Buy??

Mike Minnic

Speaker Opinions....Which kind to Buy??

by Mike Minnic » Tue, 25 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Personally, I prefer headphones to speakers any day. I am using a pair
Sennheisers with my MX300 and the surround effects are awesome! It also lets
me play into the wee hours without waking the wife ;).
Brett C. Camma

Speaker Opinions....Which kind to Buy??

by Brett C. Camma » Tue, 25 Apr 2000 04:00:00

On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:47:29 -0400, "Dave St.Onge"


>Guys....thanks alot for all the info.  It seems I forgot to mention that
>cost is a factor, and since I live in Canada, speakers such as the Klipsch,
>and I would assume, many hi-fi speaker systems are out of my budget.  The
>Klipsch and the FPS 2500's would run me around $400 with taxes, whereas I
>can get the 2000's for around $200 including taxes and shipping.

I use a pair of those diecast aluminum speakers from Radio Shack with
the 4" long-throw drivers and the small domed tweeters (mine are the
original Minimus 7's, but they still offer an equivalent).  I drive
them with an old 20 watt RMS amp comprised of a monolithic Sanken
power amp chip.  Sounds wonderful and I occasionally get complaints
from the airport about the noise. <g>

The speakers come up on sale two or three times a year at around
$39.95 each USD.  They're remarkably decent speakers.  I use another
pair for my main living room stereo, but I live in a condo and have
modest SPL demands.  Still sound great, though, in that application.

Regards,
Brett C. Cammack
That's Racing! Motorsports
Pompano Beach, FL

Tim Vanhe

Speaker Opinions....Which kind to Buy??

by Tim Vanhe » Tue, 25 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I have the Labtec 4 sattelite speaker + subwoofer system and the surround
effects are marvelous and the bass is very powerfull. When you take a look
at the subwoofer it looks really small (appr. 20x20x20cm case and appr. 10cm
woofer), at first I didn't expect a lot of it, but it is powerfull enough to
make my pedals shake (it's great to *feel* the engine roll in N3)
(only downside of the system is that the cables are quite a mess.)



Mark Steven

Speaker Opinions....Which kind to Buy??

by Mark Steven » Tue, 25 Apr 2000 04:00:00



This is precisely the reason why you *should* get a more dedicated
hifi system. Myself, family and friends have gone through *dozens* of
pairs of speakers built exclusively for use with a computer. They
simply don't hold up for long, being pretty much the cheapest audio
output devices you'll ever encounter. A decent hifi system *will* hold
up to the rigours of a PC sound card. Much better to splash out a bit
more for a single decent system that'll last you years than to splash
out for three or four cheap systems that'll last you five minutes.

--
Mark Stevens

http://www.headspin.clara.net/
http://pressx.cjb.net/

Don Scurlo

Speaker Opinions....Which kind to Buy??

by Don Scurlo » Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Very nice looking bit of gear, and from the specs and your recommendation I
don't doubt they would sound pretty good. It's about ***y time they stopped
selling us the Mickey Mouse ***that has been computer audio. I'd love to find
a clean version of that THX sound bite on the Klipsch site to use as my
computer start up sound. Anyone know where to find it ?

--
Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.

Mark Jeangerar

Speaker Opinions....Which kind to Buy??

by Mark Jeangerar » Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I'm very much impressed with the Event PS 5's. Or is it PS 6? Either way,
they are superb. Accurate.

--
Mark Jeangerard
www.soundchaserweb.com
New Mexico, USA


ELVIS200

Speaker Opinions....Which kind to Buy??

by ELVIS200 » Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I'd rather than send the *** distorted output of a soundcard to my
Polks.  Thanks, though.

Jeff

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 23:21:10 +0100, Mark Stevens


>This is precisely the reason why you *should* get a more dedicated
>hifi system. Myself, family and friends have gone through *dozens* of
>pairs of speakers built exclusively for use with a computer. They
>simply don't hold up for long, being pretty much the cheapest audio
>output devices you'll ever encounter. A decent hifi system *will* hold
>up to the rigours of a PC sound card. Much better to splash out a bit
>more for a single decent system that'll last you years than to splash
>out for three or four cheap systems that'll last you five minutes.

Slas

Speaker Opinions....Which kind to Buy??

by Slas » Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:00:00


scribbled:

Some people actually do use their S/PDIF outputs, and as such the
quality ain't bad at all.

You could certainly do much worse with standard audio components.

-Slash

"The people on the internet know more about what I am doing than I do.
 Like, they will say that I am going to be in this mall on this day and sure
 enough I am there."
 - Tori Amos, Dew Drop Inn Tour, 17-June-1996

ELVIS200

Speaker Opinions....Which kind to Buy??

by ELVIS200 » Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:00:00



With a S/PDIF, maybe - but I don't have that.  My point is - the sound
quality of a SB Live, as superior as it may be to other sound cards -
is still garbage.  And garbage signals destroy speakers.  No way would
I sent the analog output to my NAD and Polks --- the Midiland speakers
do the job.  I used to run the audio out from my DVD decoder to my
system -- and big explosions, etc were distorted... speach was
harsh... it was bad.  With a read DVD set-up, and not *integrating* my
computer audio with my real system - my speakers and ears thank me.

Question - how many of you are using your DVD-ROM as your CD player
also?  LOL.

Paul S

Speaker Opinions....Which kind to Buy??

by Paul S » Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I have the below mentioned setup (X-Gamer and FPS 2000's) and it rocks!
Although I would have loved to go the Klipsch route...a bit too pricey.
Anyway I am VERY happy with this setup and have tried many cards/speakers
over the years.. The X-Gamer replaced my Monster Sound MX300 (Vortex 2) and
I am hearing games in a whole new way.
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> IIRC, the X-Gamer card has a digital out port, and the FPS2000s are
digital
> speakers.  Put two and two together and that way you won't get any
annoying
> hissing sounds when you turn up the volume.  Believe me, if I had an
SBLive
> w/ digital out I would have gotten the FPS2ks as well, because my regular
> CSW 4 speaker/1 sub setup (the generation before the FPS2k) has _the most
> annoying_ buzzing sound coming out of the front left speaker.


> > Currently, I am considering the Cambridge FPS 2000 speakers because of
> their
> > 4 speakers, with the benefit of hearing different sounds from the front
> and
> > rear speakers, and surround sound.  As you can tell, I have very limited
> > experience with speakers.



> IIRC, the X-Gamer card has a digital out port, and the FPS2000s are
digital
> speakers.  Put two and two together and that way you won't get any
annoying
> hissing sounds when you turn up the volume.  Believe me, if I had an
SBLive
> w/ digital out I would have gotten the FPS2ks as well, because my regular
> CSW 4 speaker/1 sub setup (the generation before the FPS2k) has _the most
> annoying_ buzzing sound coming out of the front left speaker.


> > Currently, I am considering the Cambridge FPS 2000 speakers because of
> their
> > 4 speakers, with the benefit of hearing different sounds from the front
> and
> > rear speakers, and surround sound.  As you can tell, I have very limited
> > experience with speakers.

Slas

Speaker Opinions....Which kind to Buy??

by Slas » Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:00:00


scribbled:

You know, there have been leaps and bounds recently in the area of
computer audio add-on cards (commonly abbreviated to 'soundcards').
Research advancements have led to the advent of higher bit sound
processing and output capabilities, with some soundcards achieving
fully 16 bits of resolution (!). They have also made the natural step
to dual channel (stereo) sound. No longer are you limited to 8, 11 or
even 22KHz output, as the leading brands are now able to realize
bandwidth up to 44KHz, or in some cases, 48KHz (wow!). There has also
ben rumor of an upcoming prototype card that combines all three of
these phenomenal advancements into a single plug-in board, although no
price has yet to be announced. What *will* they think of next? :)

<disclaimer, this is meant as humor and is not intended to be
derogatory or insulting>

Seriously, if you're getting noticeably distorted audio from any
computer soundcard made in the last two years or so, you're most
likely doing something horribly wrong. :)

-Slash

"The people on the internet know more about what I am doing than I do.
 Like, they will say that I am going to be in this mall on this day and sure
 enough I am there."
 - Tori Amos, Dew Drop Inn Tour, 17-June-1996

Martyn Danb

Speaker Opinions....Which kind to Buy??

by Martyn Danb » Thu, 27 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Speakers.....

Cerwin Vega comes to mind..

I personally have a pair of $15 tin cans hooked up to the speaker out of
my soundcard.
The line out however is hooked to a home reciever which powers my cerwin
vega D3's.  Only downside is I don't live alone, so the headphones get
used the most, though the D3's come close to matching the headphones +)

Md


> I have the below mentioned setup (X-Gamer and FPS 2000's) and it rocks!
> Although I would have loved to go the Klipsch route...a bit too pricey.
> Anyway I am VERY happy with this setup and have tried many cards/speakers
> over the years.. The X-Gamer replaced my Monster Sound MX300 (Vortex 2) and
> I am hearing games in a whole new way.
> ----- Original Message -----

> Newsgroups:
> rec.autos.simulators,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.spor
> ts
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2000 3:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Speaker Opinions....Which kind to Buy??

> > IIRC, the X-Gamer card has a digital out port, and the FPS2000s are
> digital
> > speakers.  Put two and two together and that way you won't get any
> annoying
> > hissing sounds when you turn up the volume.  Believe me, if I had an
> SBLive
> > w/ digital out I would have gotten the FPS2ks as well, because my regular
> > CSW 4 speaker/1 sub setup (the generation before the FPS2k) has _the most
> > annoying_ buzzing sound coming out of the front left speaker.


> > > Currently, I am considering the Cambridge FPS 2000 speakers because of
> > their
> > > 4 speakers, with the benefit of hearing different sounds from the front
> > and
> > > rear speakers, and surround sound.  As you can tell, I have very limited
> > > experience with speakers.



> > IIRC, the X-Gamer card has a digital out port, and the FPS2000s are
> digital
> > speakers.  Put two and two together and that way you won't get any
> annoying
> > hissing sounds when you turn up the volume.  Believe me, if I had an
> SBLive
> > w/ digital out I would have gotten the FPS2ks as well, because my regular
> > CSW 4 speaker/1 sub setup (the generation before the FPS2k) has _the most
> > annoying_ buzzing sound coming out of the front left speaker.


> > > Currently, I am considering the Cambridge FPS 2000 speakers because of
> > their
> > > 4 speakers, with the benefit of hearing different sounds from the front
> > and
> > > rear speakers, and surround sound.  As you can tell, I have very limited
> > > experience with speakers.

Michael E. Carve

Speaker Opinions....Which kind to Buy??

by Michael E. Carve » Thu, 27 Apr 2000 04:00:00


% Very nice looking bit of gear, and from the specs and your recommendation I
% don't doubt they would sound pretty good. It's about ***y time they stopped
% selling us the Mickey Mouse ***that has been computer audio. I'd love to find
% a clean version of that THX sound bite on the Klipsch site to use as my
% computer start up sound. Anyone know where to find it ?

There are various "compressed" versions I found using
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

However, the one I have is a 2 meg wav file...

You can find an mp3 version at
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

You can find uncompressed wav verions at
http://www.racesimcentral.net/~jsbehr/WAVS_VIDS/Movies/BeforeTheMovie/THX/

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ELVIS200

Speaker Opinions....Which kind to Buy??

by ELVIS200 » Thu, 27 Apr 2000 04:00:00

When thinking of what... crap?



ELVIS200

Speaker Opinions....Which kind to Buy??

by ELVIS200 » Thu, 27 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Quite an audiophile you are....




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