rec.autos.simulators

Is this not a mail message? My *mail* reader refers to messages as either
'articles' or 'mail'. If you're going to point out a misuse of a term,
then also tell me what you feel the correct term is?

Cheers,
Rod.

Constructive negative feedback is encouraged, in fact it's treasured. But
abuse is uncalled for and counter productive. If you made a mistake at
work and your boss took you aside and politely showed the error of your
ways, I'm sure you would appreciate it more than if he was to berate you
infront of everyone. I really don't see it much different when trying to
provide feedback regarding a software product.

Cheers,
Rod.

Sheesh. Are you that ***retentive? Does it matter how I choose
to label this post as a mail message, an article or usenet post?
Did the meaning of what I was trying to convey get lost in my choice
of how to I decided to describe it?

I made a comment on a particularly unsavory post and didn't realise
that the message that I was trying to convey was not important, but
the two words I chose to use to describe 'article', 'usenet post',
etc was an issue. If you felt that I actually needed help, you
wouldn't have posted as a holier-than-thou and probably e-mailed
your comment.

I referred to the post as a 'mail message' which it has been
colloquially known in my circles for as long as I remember. It's the
description of a group of words that is posted for one or more
readers to view. 'Mail message' doesn't neccessarily mean e-mail
but can describe e-mail. Funny how we *post* articles to usenet, but
you're critical on my use of the word mail. It's delivered to news
servers around the world, but god forbid that I ever refer to it
as an article as a mailed message.

I also never said I have been using the net since 1998. I said
that I've been *USING USENET* since 1998.

If I wanted to be equally as anally retentive, I could point out
that this 'USENET POST' does not go to every ISP in the world, in
fact, comparitively speaking it goes to very few ISP's around the
world. It also doesn't neccessarily go to an ISP, it's propogated
to a news-server that some ISP's may have setup. Those news servers
may not even carry this newsgroup or they may carry this news group
but the article was not propogated correctly so I would suspect that
this particular post is seen by a very small percentage of ISP's.

E-mail can also be posted to multiple people, carbon copied
to multiple people and blind copied to multiple people, not
neccessarily to a single recipient.

Of course I could have overlooked the fact that I'm sure you already
knew this, but I can act the sarcastic ***retentive too.

Cheers,
Rod.

It is still mail, if you want to get truly anal. It's email that gets
propogated to other servers. You can actually post to usenet using an
email program if you want.

--
Chuck Kandler

Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.

Registered Linux User #180746
http://counter.li.org

Why does everyone place that developer as ***e or victim he or she
is neither. They come her and mingle to sell a product period. Its
called marketing here in the US of A. It profits the developers just as much
if not more to have a presence in these groups.

If he wants my money he better improve and bring about as close to
perfection as hes' capable of or I'll buy from someone else, that simple.
Ed was in this group to sell a product thats the bottom line. Some
people got frustrated or rude so he left. If ya can't stand the heat :)
get out of the kitchen, this is no place for thin skinned developers.

Jan.
=---

Ed Martin simply got upset when the questions became too insistent (and
he didn't have easy answers for them), then he picked up his bat and
ball and left. I don't think he's QUITE ready for sainthood.

I don't consider them either a hero(ine) or victim, but as an excellent
link to the products that we like to enjoy. Treat them with respect and
they're likely to stay. Treat them as yelling posts, and you can plainly
see what happens. If the addage 'write a message to someone with the same
tone as you would if you were talking to them face to face', usenet
would be a much saner place.

If it were to profit developers significantly to have a presence in these
groups, why don't you see them anymore?

Your money is your money and you can choose to spend it however you wish.
I demand the same sort of concessions on other hobbies that I enjoy too.
Heat never appeared to be developed or marketed to the *** crowd, so
I can't understand why they were panned because of the perceived lack of
realism.

Cheers,
Rod.

;-)

Shane

Andre

<SNIP SNIP SNIP>

Ok, back to the simcar racing topic now, this Usenet/Email discussion
is becoming REALLY boring now :)

Andre

Note, I did say *mail message*, not email.

I said *mail message*, not email.

As do I, I didn't say email.

Woops. Typo. Yes, I said I've been using Usenet since 1988, but been
using the net for a few years prior to that. 1998 was a typo.

T'was a little place called Digital Equipment Corporation. Their
internal nntp server which I used to use in 1998 were referred to as
Usenet mail, as I have colloquially heard it called *many* times
before. Articles within groups were also colloquially referred to
as messages.

Digital Equipment Corporation around 1988 were probably one of the
best sources of internet information.

I *didn't* say *email*.

Perhaps where you come from, but the Internet spans alot more than
just the USA. But almost all is not every, is it?

The last 2 ISP's I was with didn't. Was without RAS for a
year because of it, and never did care for deja.

<yawn>

* I originally said *mail message* not email.
* Not every ISP in the world has a usenet server.
* Email is not strictly from one person to another person.

I'm done. Excellent example as to why I rarely post these days,
can't say anything without someone wanting to point out what
they perceive as an error.

Cheers,
Rod.