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PS2 Racing Sims Versus PC

Dave Henri

PS2 Racing Sims Versus PC

by Dave Henri » Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:43:22

"elrikk

        Yes you can.  But you should make sure the game.gdb  file has an
entry for LeMans.  It should be under SeasonSSM.

dave henrie

Dave Coo

PS2 Racing Sims Versus PC

by Dave Coo » Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:48:11

So now 90% of RAS are chumps.  I've read enough of your bad attitude.

<PLONK>


> On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 00:50:25 GMT, "Rick Sweeney"

> >By the way, who is this dameon Terd?  To many Dameon's is the reason I no
> >longer race online.

> And why do you think I would ruin your online racing? Don't make
> assumptions about my behavoir in online racing just because of what I
> posted here. In fact I rarely race online because the AI can drive
> better than 90% of you chumps.

Mar

PS2 Racing Sims Versus PC

by Mar » Wed, 16 Oct 2002 23:40:46


> If you think the gameplay in GT3 is better than GPL, seriously, stop coming
> to a sim forum right now and go into the mundane world of casual gamers that
> have grew up on a PlayStation and somehow think their "***".
> To the poster, please tell me you didn't spew this misinformation in Motor
> Trend? Did you even research anything? Did you try anything for yourself?
> Where did you come up with this idiotic idea that GT3 can do 720p? Sheesh
> man.

I *may* be mistaken, but I believe the poster who wrote the Motor
Trend bit, Steve Smith, is the same person who wrote the "Four Wheel
Drift" book that came with original copies of GPL.  I have no idea if
it was included in subsequent (budget) releases, but it was a good
read.

If I turn out not to be mistaken, I reckon you could cut him some
slack...

Mark
Reading, UK

elrik

PS2 Racing Sims Versus PC

by elrik » Thu, 17 Oct 2002 03:45:17


Thanks again, seems to work fine.   Now I can free up some disk space by
uninstalling F1 2001 and its mods.  ( to make room for the comming mods for
F1 2002 )

Will it never end ?     ;o)

Elrikk

Joe6

PS2 Racing Sims Versus PC

by Joe6 » Thu, 17 Oct 2002 08:30:38

On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:26:36 GMT, "Rick Sweeney"


>I just purchased a PS2 and have it hooked up to a Sony 57 HDTV. I have been
>racing on the PC for years. Anyone have any comments on the PS2 Formula 2
>and >NASCAR racing sims?  Do they compare at all to the PC sims?

As pure, *** sims? No, the PS2 can't compete.

For pure fun, highly tuned gameplay and polished racing? The PS2 wins
hands-down with GT3, Midnight Club, and NFS Hot Pursuit 2.

It's great, but only as on the PC only in a small number of titles.
GT3 and NFS are very good with the wheel. GT3 in particular.

For pure simulation the PC wins. For graphics, sound, and gameplay the
PS2 wins. (In THEORY the PC should win in graphics - in practice this
is rarely the case IME, not in racing games anyway).

Joe6

PS2 Racing Sims Versus PC

by Joe6 » Thu, 17 Oct 2002 08:33:24



You generalize too much. PC has the best Nascar and F1 sims, for sure.
But there is no PC arcade/sim hybrid racer that can touch GT3.
Similarly, with NFS HP2 the PC version is the watered-down, untuned
game that Black Box handed off to another developer several months
ago. The PS2 version is vastly superior.

Not on GT3. The FF is of high quality.

Steve Smit

PS2 Racing Sims Versus PC

by Steve Smit » Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:02:40

EB listed it at $30 (I think), but said they didn't have any in stock
because NOBODY HAD EVER ASKED FOR ONE.



shpanke

PS2 Racing Sims Versus PC

by shpanke » Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:53:58

I will state this again. "GAMEPLAY" is not about graphics, cars, tracks,
upgrades, sound blah blah blah. Are you guys kidding me here? No serious...
am I being played on? Do I really ned to explain what "gameplay" is or like
I suspect, your having fun at my expense? Hint... gameplay's biggest part
has to do with "control".
D

PS2 Racing Sims Versus PC

by D » Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:10:49


>I will state this again. "GAMEPLAY" is not about graphics, cars, tracks,
>upgrades, sound blah blah blah. Are you guys kidding me here? No serious...
>am I being played on? Do I really ned to explain what "gameplay" is or like
>I suspect, your having fun at my expense? Hint... gameplay's biggest part
>has to do with "control".

Maybe we need a another hint.
Seems many console games approach "gameplay" as repetition of pretty much the
same thing in search of unlocking something that PC games make available from
the start.  All in the drive for a 100% "score".
Steve Smit

PS2 Racing Sims Versus PC

by Steve Smit » Thu, 17 Oct 2002 21:20:06

Notice I didn't mention replayability.  We're all still playing GPL after
FOUR YEARS!  That's what I call legs!





> >> GT3 also has something no Papy game has ever had: gameplay.

> >I'll say it's just, hmm "different gameplay".  Of course, that gameplay
of
> >GT3 is immensely larger but it's still not much.  Once you raced those
slow
> >cars without modifications at simple tracks, will you really want to come
> >back?

> Yes, as a devout player (well past) of PC sims and now GT3, I'll go with
the
> "different".  Not clearly better.  GT3 is a blast.  But I do get tired of
> endlessely racing the monotonous Test Circuit.  And the knock-em sock-em
AI
> that adjusts to your speed.

> And actually, I do like racing the slow cars.  After a while, it is too
easy
> to win with over-powered fast cars.  I find it fun to race against very
> closely matched vehicles where one mistake may cost you all your energy.
> Again, too bad about the slow-down/catchup AI.

> But give me more real tracks, more cars on track, half-decent AI.  Oh, and
a
> dash view wouldn't hurt.

> Playability is more than just repeating a circuit in search of the magical
> 100% score.

> OTOH, it does have:
> Great cars (too bad not as many as GT2!)
> Very good sound.
> Pretty imaginative courses . Ditto the GT2 comment, and add some shorter
ones
> like Autumn/Mini!
> And once in a while, a real gripping race.  Try a 78 lapper where you win
by
> less than a second.

> The PC needs a game/sim like this, but with the above enhancements.

Steve Smit

PS2 Racing Sims Versus PC

by Steve Smit » Thu, 17 Oct 2002 21:23:52

The first PC gamer I came across who was a fan of Gran Turismo (before GT2
or GT3) was Alison Hine, who was also a GPL beta tester, and as much a
worshipper of accurate physics as I am.  She seriously got me to consider a
PS2 just to play it.  And now I have.  It's no GPL, but it's the best thing
I've found for consoles...and makes me wish Papy would do a console game
(Can-Am, say, or Baja 1000) for the PS2.




> >Thanks Guys for all the feedback on this. I think I will pass on the
racing
> >sims for PS2. Maybe PS3?

> From what I think was your original post, it wasn't clear if you have GT3.
> While I might have focused on the negatives, I suggest that you run, not
walk
> to the store and pick it up.  It is almost reason enough to buy a PS2
alone.
> If you already have a PS2, and are enough of a sim fan to post here, you
want
> this game.  And at $19.95 it is the bargain of the year.  Yes, it is far
from
> the last word in *racing* realism.  But the graphics, sound, and *driving*
> realism are top notch (well, almost on the last).  If only there was a PC
> equivalent...
> [btw, I used to waste countless hours on GPL, F1GP2, F1RS, SCGT...]

Steve Smit

PS2 Racing Sims Versus PC

by Steve Smit » Thu, 17 Oct 2002 21:17:19

U, thanks, Jason...I think.  Could I interest you in some Christina Aguilera
posters?




> >It's not a fair point at all. Just a stupid and obviosuly biased
> >comment from another stupid journalist.

> Uh.  Steve was a GPL beta tester *and* wrote the manual (the thick
> one, not the skimpy one describing menus and such).  If there's any
> bias there, I'd expect it to lie with Kaemmer's sims.

> As far as being stupid, I dunno about that.  4 Wheel Drift is still my
> #1 toilet reading choice, rivaled only by the newer Bill James books.

> Jason

Jason Moy

PS2 Racing Sims Versus PC

by Jason Moy » Thu, 17 Oct 2002 22:43:22

On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 12:17:19 GMT, "Steve Smith"


>U, thanks, Jason...I think.  Could I interest you in some Christina Aguilera
>posters?

Hey now, any writer who can even compete for reading time in my house
with Bill James is doing pretty damn well, especially if it's a video
game book. =p

Jason

Joe6

PS2 Racing Sims Versus PC

by Joe6 » Fri, 18 Oct 2002 01:20:22



"Bollocks" is not a cogent argument.

Rick Sweene

PS2 Racing Sims Versus PC

by Rick Sweene » Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:13:40

Hmmm, maybe I spend the $19.00 on GT3. I have to drive something on this
damn HDTV, the suspense is killing me.


> On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 16:20:22 GMT, Joe62

> >>Bollocks again mate.

> >"Bollocks" is not a cogent argument.

> Then I will quantify it with BALLS. ;-)


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