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GPL 2004 Demo?

Malc

GPL 2004 Demo?

by Malc » Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:57:42



> wrote something like:
> Seriously speaking, I don't think that it really matters whether we
> use top or bottom posting (although I believe that netiquette suggests
> one of those methods...) as long as everyone posts the same way.
> Right? Otherwise it'll be a mess. Well, it already is.

This is my view too. It seems to work so why change something so basic
to usenet?

Malc.

Andi Col

GPL 2004 Demo?

by Andi Col » Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:24:34

But it doesn't work 'cos no half the people don't follow it and I think
there's better reasons to do it differently.

Andi.

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> > wrote something like:

> > Seriously speaking, I don't think that it really matters whether we
> > use top or bottom posting (although I believe that netiquette suggests
> > one of those methods...) as long as everyone posts the same way.
> > Right? Otherwise it'll be a mess. Well, it already is.

> This is my view too. It seems to work so why change something so basic
> to usenet?

> Malc.

Andi Col

GPL 2004 Demo?

by Andi Col » Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:27:41

I am thinking of my readers, those who think like me and just want to read
the last comment posted. Why is that so hard for you guys to grasp.

And you labelling me inconsiderate and lame is a good thing for this
newsgroup because? You think you're right and I'm wrong?

Andi.

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> > OK, Bored now

> You give up too easily ;-)

> Which side of the road does your country drive on? It doesn't matter
> which side it is, just as long as everyone uses the same method.

> If you are happy to be labelled inconsiderate or a lame brain then carry
> on, but if you don't, try to think about your readers before you click
> 'send' ;-)

> Malc.

Malc

GPL 2004 Demo?

by Malc » Fri, 11 Jun 2004 04:41:14


Your point is very easy to understand, but I disagree. Do you understand
the concept that someone may have a different agenda from yourself? ;-)

It's not a matter of my opinion really, it's simply considered good
manners to snip your quote (which you still fail to do).

If you unknowingly behave in an impolite way someone will probably tell
you. It's you're lucky they will be polite but it's not a given.

If you knowingly behave in an impolite manner (as is common with
'rebellious' ***agers) then your behaviour will either be ignored along
with your opinion (which may be a good one) or picked up and commented
on, as is the case here.
There are many, many newsgroups out there & this is a very polite one
relatively speaking.

As I & someone else mentioned before, it doesn't matter which method is
used as long as we all do the same. On usenet the accepted standard is
to bottom post, and usenet posting ettiquette advice is generally
considered on-topic for any newsgroup. There are plenty of newsgroups
where top-posting is the norm, and in this one either posting method is
usually accepted simply to be polite.

I accept that your opinion may differ, but I'm not stating opinion,
simply the way it is ;-) I don't really care which method you use, but
it would be nice to see some glimmer of recognition that you are driving
on the wrong side of the street ;-)

If you want to change the standard find out how & go do it. Posting on
RSC isn't the best way ;-)

Malc.

mach

GPL 2004 Demo?

by mach » Fri, 11 Jun 2004 09:52:49


>As I & someone else mentioned before, it doesn't matter which method is
>used as long as we all do the same. On usenet the accepted standard is
>to bottom post, and usenet posting ettiquette advice is generally
>considered on-topic for any newsgroup. There are plenty of newsgroups
>where top-posting is the norm, and in this one either posting method is
>usually accepted simply to be polite.

The problem with bottom posting being that most people are too lazy to snip the
parts of a message that aren't relevant to their answer, in which case top
posting makes it easier to avoid unnecessarily traversing the whole bunch of
quoted (and presumably, already previously read) parts...
No problem with bottom posting when someone is replying to a certain paragraph
(or paragraphs) of the previous message, of course (like I'm doing right now).

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Michael R Sisso

GPL 2004 Demo?

by Michael R Sisso » Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:51:17



It's all Outlook Express's fault (it defaults to top for replies)! And
yes, Andi is using Outlook Express. Shock! Horror! Surprise! Oh, hey, so
is Mitch. Whatever makes it easier for them; *** everyone else.

Internet argument #2357.

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Andi Col

GPL 2004 Demo?

by Andi Col » Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:59:22

Excellant a sensible answer at last, its Bill Gates' fault. Actually if Bill
Gates Top posts then why can't I.

Look guys, my '***age' comments started when I was labelled a lame barin
and a moron for ignoring unwritten rules. So lets not start with the '***'
thing, I'm probably older than most of you. As I said this is not a club
with agreed rules just some of you guys deciding something's a good idea. It
may have been a good idea when the internet was young and slow. But now the
so called rules are not of any value. It gets very juvenile in my opinion
when you lot start calling me names and ignoring posts because you don't
like how I post. If you want rules then lets lock this down to a private
club.

Andi.

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> > The problem with bottom posting being that most people are too lazy to
snip the
> > parts of a message that aren't relevant to their answer, in which case
top
> > posting makes it easier to avoid unnecessarily traversing the whole
bunch of
> > quoted (and presumably, already previously read) parts...
> > No problem with bottom posting when someone is replying to a certain
paragraph
> > (or paragraphs) of the previous message, of course (like I'm doing right
now).

> It's all Outlook Express's fault (it defaults to top for replies)! And
> yes, Andi is using Outlook Express. Shock! Horror! Surprise! Oh, hey, so
> is Mitch. Whatever makes it easier for them; *** everyone else.

> Internet argument #2357.

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> LOAD "GPL",8,1
> RUN

Jussi Koukk

GPL 2004 Demo?

by Jussi Koukk » Fri, 11 Jun 2004 17:47:04


wrote something like:

Yes, top posting has that advantage, in theory. It may happen (and
often does) that there are different "sub-threads" in one thread. E.g.
four ppl posting to one thread, but #1 is replying to #2's last post
and #3 is replying to #4's last post. Now if all four were top
posting, then you'd still have to scoll down to see which message was
being quoted. A bit like your reply to mine... I couldn't see who's
message you were replying to without scrolling down.

If you have trouble reading replies posted in the "de facto standard"
way then maybe you, sir, should stick to web boards and leave the
complicated newsgroup stuff to us young ones (30y/o here). Or perhaps
configure your newsreader to show different levels of replies in
different colours and/or indent. Any half decent newsreader should be
capable of that. Wouldn't that be a better solution than making
replies harder to read for everyone else by top posting (when the vast
majority still bottom posts)?

I hate to scroll down past text that I have not yet read, and then
scroll back up again to read the actual reply. So yes, I do hate what
you do.

Of course you can. But don't be surprised if you get flamed. Big
wheels turn slowly.

Ok, it's understood. Can we move on?

I believe it was mentioned in the links I posted. I take it that you
couldn't be bothered to read them?
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