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RASCAR: General Race Stuff

John Simmon

RASCAR: General Race Stuff

by John Simmon » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:11:44

1) DO NOT JUMP THE START. When the green flag drops, you should be
going no faster than the pace speed.  This happened a couple of times
today.

2) Bruce and Guido appear to be using the WRONG car file.  I saw
generic paint schemes for both cars today.

3) PATIENCE.

4) There was ENTIRELY too much idle chatting going on. That shit's
gonna stop right now.

Bruce Kennewel

RASCAR: General Race Stuff

by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:36:42

Good morning, John.
Feeling a bit liverish, are we? :)

2) On the paint scheme; tell me which one you are using....the Gordon DuPont
or the one I posted (Raider's scheme, same name as previous) on the RASCAR
forum last week?

4) What's the problem with chat when under yellow?? Doesn't seem to cause a
problem for anyone.

Bruce.

John Simmon

RASCAR: General Race Stuff

by John Simmon » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:51:07


says...

Well, you *uploaded* this one:

        ras55_bkenewell.cup.car

but in today's race, you used this one:

        55_b_kenewell.cup.car

Nobody has that car file but you, therefore, we can't see your paint
job.  Please rename the file you're using to the "ras..." version
(and don't forget to re-select the correct file before joining the
next race).

It's one of the very few actual rules we have Bruce. If you're
chatting, you're not driving and you're a hazard on the track.  
Keeping the chat to a minimum is simply a good idea.

What does "liverish" mean?  :)

Mitch_

RASCAR: General Race Stuff

by Mitch_ » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:24:39

I sure hope you arent implying I jumped JS?  If so show me when and don't
base it on Kyles constant crying during the race.  When the flag falls I
step on it, not before and in as little time after it falls as humanly
possible ;).  If you DONT KNOW WHICH GEAR TO START IN or DONT STOP FOR FRESH
TIRES then it's your FN problem that you can't get out of the box, not mine
(Kyle86).  I was never going much (1-3MPH) over pace speed at any start
except the first where whoever was leading took off way before the green
flag flew and we all tried to keep up.

Jumping the start of a race (or subsequent yellow) is to purposfully slow as
you approach the green flag (which I never did) then accelerate prior to the
flag being dropped thus carrying a good deal more momentum/speed just as you
pass the flag stand.  Which I sure as hell didnt do either.  If I got a
better start it was cause I got a better start, nothing more nothing less.
Why all the FN crying about nothing.

Mitch


> 1) DO NOT JUMP THE START. When the green flag drops, you should be
> going no faster than the pace speed.  This happened a couple of times
> today.

Bruce Kennewel

RASCAR: General Race Stuff

by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:09:04

That's odd! (The car file).
Okay, I'm now looking at the .../series/cup/cars folder and see BOTH those
files in there.
I'll delete the incorrect livery one and rename the other as needed then
hope that works!

Okay on the chat....I'm not objecting to it, just curious about the rule
applying during yellows was all.

"Liverish"?
It means feeling a bit out of sorts, a bit grumpy, disagreeable. :)

Cheers mate!
Bruce.


Bruce Kennewel

RASCAR: General Race Stuff

by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:30:10

Hmmmm....the RaceSimCentral forums (fora) are down at the moment, John, so I
can't upload that correct car file yet.
Will do so as soon as I discover the RASCAR forum is accessible again.

Bruce.

John Simmon

RASCAR: General Race Stuff

by John Simmon » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:40:47

Not at all. I was implying that some folks who were leading the race
on the restart were n0t maintaining pace speed until the green flag
came out, and that others behind me were accelerating at the restarts
before the green flag came out.



> I sure hope you arent implying I jumped JS?  

> Mitch


> > 1) DO NOT JUMP THE START. When the green flag drops, you should be
> > going no faster than the pace speed.  This happened a couple of times
> > today.

John Simmon

RASCAR: General Race Stuff

by John Simmon » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:41:27

Oh, welll, you'll get used to that soon enough. :)


says...

> "Liverish"?
> It means feeling a bit out of sorts, a bit grumpy, disagreeable. :)

> Cheers mate!
> Bruce.



> > What does "liverish" mean?  :)

Guido Mielekam

RASCAR: General Race Stuff

by Guido Mielekam » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:28:57

Wrong carfile? I used the one i uploaded, or so i think.
ras_64_g_mielekamp[1].cup.car (only the 1 bothers me a bit)



Tim

RASCAR: General Race Stuff

by Tim » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:19:19

For me, excessive chatting during cautions is worse than seeing it under green.

In a league with varied skills, even keeping pace under caution is hard enough without having to type at the same time.  That's the
time I work hardest mentally, trying to stay focused.

If everything is cool with everyone else, and all is fine in the world, an occasional slapstick or apology is good for the group.

But more likely, if an admin has anything to say while he's racing, he may usually wait to say it under yellow.  Remember he's
racing too.  A mis-timed unneccessary chat will cause his to blink right by, afterwhich everyone is then chattting 'huh? what? who
me?'

It's asking alot to ask an admin to clear a BF, ask another driver to check your front/rear damage, watch for eoll msgs, etc. AND
sift thru all the other stuff.

chat kills
:)

--
Tim White
www.intracmotorsports.com

John Simmon

RASCAR: General Race Stuff

by John Simmon » Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:55:07

Take the "[1]" out of the name and it should clear up.



frederickso

RASCAR: General Race Stuff

by frederickso » Tue, 01 Jul 2003 01:29:42

Tim, the problem was the track we were on. Each yellow lap took THREE
MINUTES and there were 4 laps each time, so it was kinda tough to sit there
silent at 70 mph for 12 minutes at a time, not to mention we never got more
than 2 green laps in a row.
John Simmon

RASCAR: General Race Stuff

by John Simmon » Tue, 01 Jul 2003 01:34:24



I think we got three green laps in a row one time.

It doesn't mattter how hard it is to not say something (even just to
pass the time), idle chatter is not desireable at all.  Don't do it
(only acceptable exception is if you're on pit road, and even then,
you shouldn't abuse it.

Larr

RASCAR: General Race Stuff

by Larr » Tue, 01 Jul 2003 02:32:09

I think today's idle chit-chat was simply due to the massive doses of bordom
that were setting in.  Just about everyone was participating today.

I dont' think Cow-bearing is necessary.  It'll settle down next week :)

Larry


Eldre

RASCAR: General Race Stuff

by Eldre » Tue, 01 Jul 2003 03:27:42



>4) What's the problem with chat when under yellow?? Doesn't seem to cause a
>problem for anyone.

It's distracting, people are too busy typing to keep control of their car.  It
has caused incidents in the past when someone suddenly slowed down or swerved
while typing some witty retort.  I agree with John on this one.

Eldred
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