rec.autos.simulators

> But you CAN change the settings in career mode sir.  Just wanted to let ya
> know that.  But the game still sucks.  =)

> > > Really?  I thought the graphics were quite nice.  I don't recall
> > > software-rendered N4 sporting anti-aliasing, real-time reflection and
> > > environment mapping, damage skins, MIP'ing and LOD'ing textures and
> polys,
> > > or accurate horizon mapping.  Have they released another version?

> > The graphics were jagged and horrible.  Anyone used to graphics on a
game
> > like N4 or NH on the PC would simply give out a "UGH" when loading up
this
> > game

> > > > In Career mode you are FORCED to run 5% races, 12 tracks with
limited
> > > damage
> > > > and worse of all.. NO Cautions.  Why Ed Martin (anyone else losing
> > > > confidence in Ed Martin?) decided this is the way it should be, I
have
> > no
> > > > idea.  It is not so bad that those are the default options. What is
> bad
> > is
> > > > that you are not allowed to change them.

> > > There is an option in the Main Menu called "Settings."  You will find
> you
> > > can modify your settings here.  I guess some folks like to make things
> > > harder than they are.

> > You can NOT change these for Career mode.  Notice I did not say for
Quick
> > Race or Season.. I said for Career mode. Like you said, guess some folks
> > like to make things harder than they are

> > > > Oh, I forgot to mention the great Morphing Damage Repair
> > > > In Career mode (and maybe even in other modes) if you car gets too
> > damage
> > > it
> > > > will say "Hit R2 to repair", you hit R2 and all the damage goes
away!!
> > > > Now if only the real WC drivers had that

> > > Again, under "Settings" you can change the damage model from "none" to
> > > "limited" (current setting given above results) to "full."

> > Not in Career mode.. do we need to cover this again?

> > > > Anyways, mine is going back to the store today.  If you disagree
with
> me
> > > > about this game. So be it.. you are entitled to your own opinion..
> > however
> > > I
> > > > just think that some people deserved to hear mine before they spent
> $50
> > > out
> > > > of their pocket for this game.

> > > Noted.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and (given their
country)
> > the
> > > freedom to express it.  I'm sorry you didn't like the game.  I hope
> > > (sincerely) that you have fun with N4.  I have enormous fun with it.
As
> > far
> > > as console NASCAR sims go, this is the cream of the crop.  It's much
> > better
> > > than I expected it to be, having played NASCAR 2001 the day I got
2002.

> > If this is the cream of the crop, then it just shows that Nascar sims on
> > consoles have a long way to go

> That has got to be the worst Nascar game I have played since Nascar
> Revolution.

> Graphics: These are horrible.  They look like you are running N4 with a
> software rendered

> Audio: I personally find it just average so I do not really have much to say
> about this

> Control: Well, you have two choices really.. you can run with help such as
> Stability Control or without.  The problems are major either way.  If you
> run the game with Stability control it turns the game into 100% pure arcade.
> You can beat and bang and bash and get completely sideways, but you will
> never spin out. It turns the game into a .50cents store mall arcade game.

> Now if you run it without stability control it becomes more realistic,
> however impossible to actually race.  The AI cars hit each other so often
> and bang each other around that I do not think there is any possible way to
> actually stay out of their way.  Thus when they hit you, you wreck and there
> goes your day.   So no matter which option you choose, the game is
> frustrating as hell

> Modes:  You have the standard Quick Race mode, Season mode and Career Mode.
> Now alot of people wanted this game for the Career Mode.  It allows you to
> build a car (you can semi-design it), then get sponsorships and through
> series of races and seasons you can move up to bigger sponsors, buy better
> equipment and hopefully move your way up to a WC championship.  Sounds great
> doesn't it?  Well it does sound good, but the execution is horrible.

> In Career mode you are FORCED to run 5% races, 12 tracks with limited damage
> and worse of all.. NO Cautions.  Why Ed Martin (anyone else losing
> confidence in Ed Martin?) decided this is the way it should be, I have no
> idea.  It is not so bad that those are the default options. What is bad is
> that you are not allowed to change them.

> Now, let me get down to the other miscellaneous problems that I noticed.

> To me one of the big problems is track realism. Sure they did try to make
> sure that the tracks "looked" realistic.  You can definitely tell the
> difference between the tracks just by looking at them and if you are used to
> watching Nascar or playing Nascar Sims, you can definitely identify them
> pretty easily.  However, that is all they tried to do with the tracks.
> Driving realism is out the window.  It does not appear that they took any
> care to make the tracks actually drive realistic.  Examples:  At Pocono, you
> can do turn 3 at over 160 (actually, more like 170) mph.  What is that all
> about??   At Texas you can run your car flat out without lifting from the
> gas.  What am I driving? a CART car?

> Well they tried to make it really nice by not only having WC drivers, but
> also Busch drivers in the game. However, they completely overdid it. In any
> given WC race you are in, there are about 15 Busch drivers also running with
> you.  Now this would not be so bad, except sometimes you have drivers like
> Jeff Green driving not only his WC car, but also his Busch car in the SAME
> race.  Umm, that is kinda amazing don't you think?

> Another problem (well not really a problem, just something I do not like) is
> the paint jobs.  They were nice to put in some Alternative paint jobs for
> some of the drivers (such as Jeff Gordon's Bugs Bunny car or Bobby Labonte's
> Coca-Cola polar bear car) but the problem is, when you go to race I think
> the game just picks the paint job at random.  So that means for someone like
> Bobby Labonte that has 9 different paint jobs, you will only see him in his
> normal car 1 out of every 9 races.  It gets to the point that every race had
> 15 special paint jobs out there.  Not a big deal I know, but just something
> that is not very well thought out.

> Anyways, mine is going back to the store today.  If you disagree with me
> about this game. So be it.. you are entitled to your own opinion.. however I
> just think that some people deserved to hear mine before they spent $50 out
> of their pocket for this game.

> > I think that whoever wrote the review for this game that caused me to
buy it
> > should own me $50. (well, luckily I can return the game and get my money
> > back)

> > That has got to be the worst Nascar game I have played since Nascar
> > Revolution.

> > Graphics: These are horrible.  They look like you are running N4 with a
> > software rendered

> > Audio: I personally find it just average so I do not really have much to
say
> > about this

> > Control: Well, you have two choices really.. you can run with help such
as
> > Stability Control or without.  The problems are major either way.  If
you
> > run the game with Stability control it turns the game into 100% pure
arcade.
> > You can beat and bang and bash and get completely sideways, but you will
> > never spin out. It turns the game into a .50cents store mall arcade
game.

> > Now if you run it without stability control it becomes more realistic,
> > however impossible to actually race.  The AI cars hit each other so
often
> > and bang each other around that I do not think there is any possible way
to
> > actually stay out of their way.  Thus when they hit you, you wreck and
there
> > goes your day.   So no matter which option you choose, the game is
> > frustrating as hell

> > Modes:  You have the standard Quick Race mode, Season mode and Career
Mode.
> > Now alot of people wanted this game for the Career Mode.  It allows you
to
> > build a car (you can semi-design it), then get sponsorships and through
> > series of races and seasons you can move up to bigger sponsors, buy
better
> > equipment and hopefully move your way up to a WC championship.  Sounds
great
> > doesn't it?  Well it does sound good, but the execution is horrible.

> > In Career mode you are FORCED to run 5% races, 12 tracks with limited
damage
> > and worse of all.. NO Cautions.  Why Ed Martin (anyone else losing
> > confidence in Ed Martin?) decided this is the way it should be, I have
no
> > idea.  It is not so bad that those are the default options. What is bad
is
> > that you are not allowed to change them.

> > Now, let me get down to the other miscellaneous problems that I noticed.

> > To me one of the big problems is track realism. Sure they did try to
make
> > sure that the tracks "looked" realistic.  You can definitely tell the
> > difference between the tracks just by looking at them and if you are
used to
> > watching Nascar or playing Nascar Sims, you can definitely identify them
> > pretty easily.  However, that is all they tried to do with the tracks.
> > Driving realism is out the window.  It does not appear that they took
any
> > care to make the tracks actually drive realistic.  Examples:  At Pocono,
you
> > can do turn 3 at over 160 (actually, more like 170) mph.  What is that
all
> > about??   At Texas you can run your car flat out without lifting from
the
> > gas.  What am I driving? a CART car?

> > Well they tried to make it really nice by not only having WC drivers,
but
> > also Busch drivers in the game. However, they completely overdid it. In
any
> > given WC race you are in, there are about 15 Busch drivers also running
with
> > you.  Now this would not be so bad, except sometimes you have drivers
like
> > Jeff Green driving not only his WC car, but also his Busch car in the
SAME
> > race.  Umm, that is kinda amazing don't you think?

> > Another problem (well not really a problem, just something I do not
like) is
> > the paint jobs.  They were nice to put in some Alternative paint jobs
for
> > some of the drivers (such as Jeff Gordon's Bugs Bunny car or Bobby
Labonte's
> > Coca-Cola polar bear car) but the problem is, when you go to race I
think
> > the game just picks the paint job at random.  So that means for someone
like
> > Bobby Labonte that has 9 different paint jobs, you will only see him in
his
> > normal car 1 out of every 9 races.  It gets to the point that every race
had
> > 15 special paint jobs out there.  Not a big deal I know, but just
something
> > that is not very well thought out.

> > Anyways, mine is going back to the store today.  If you disagree with me
> > about this game. So be it.. you are entitled to your own opinion..
however I
> > just think that some people deserved to hear mine before they spent $50
out
> > of their pocket for this game.