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Sub 1.28.00 at Monza

Jon Anderse

Sub 1.28.00 at Monza

by Jon Anderse » Thu, 03 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Yo!

Is it possible to do laps below 1.28.00 with a 58 pst front brake balance
with the Lotus?

Do you guys trailbreke with lower than 57 pst front brake bias?

Jon

Leo Landma

Sub 1.28.00 at Monza

by Leo Landma » Thu, 03 Feb 2000 04:00:00



Nah, you're just kidding again...

Bye,
Leo

Jon Anderse

Sub 1.28.00 at Monza

by Jon Anderse » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

No. Not kidding this time. Honest!

I really do want to know if it is possible? I have done 1.28.05 with 58 pst
front biased brakes, with a slight imperfect 1. Lezmo. I know that I could
have done that curve better, but I'm not sure that a perfect 1. Lezmo would
have rewarded me with a 1.27.xx.

I've learned from online racing that the really fast guys is able to brake
later than me in the Parabolica. I guess they are using 53 og 54 pst front
brake bias. I have tried those bias settings myself, and have experienced
that those settings allows for later braking. But I don't feel comfortable
with those settings. Too often those settings puts me in the rails or the
sand trap.

Is there anybody driving consistently late 1.27s with 57 or 58 pst front
biased brakes?

Jon




> > Do you guys trailbrake with lower than 57 pst front brake bias?

> Nah, you're just kidding again...

> Bye,
> Leo

Leo Landma

Sub 1.28.00 at Monza

by Leo Landma » Sat, 05 Feb 2000 04:00:00



Okay, we'll believe you, for this once...

I'm sure someone will turn up and say yes. But that doesn't mean it's the
right thing to do for you. IMO there's no ideal brake bias. It all depends
on the car, the setup and your driving style. Personally I couldn't drive
with 58% because I would lock up the fronts every time, and miss my
turning-in point.
Most people use 54-56% because it DOES shorten your braking distance, and
because that's what we find in the hotshoes' setups <g> We've learned to
adapt and drive around the other problems that brings, just like you could
adapt to driving with 58% bias and be quick that way.

Bye,
Leo

Grant Reev

Sub 1.28.00 at Monza

by Grant Reev » Sat, 05 Feb 2000 04:00:00




> > No. Not kidding this time. Honest!<

> Okay, we'll believe you, for this once...

> > I really do want to know if it is possible?<

> I'm sure someone will turn up and say yes. But that doesn't mean it's the
> right thing to do for you. IMO there's no ideal brake bias. It all depends
> on the car, the setup and your driving style. Personally I couldn't drive
> with 58% because I would lock up the fronts every time, and miss my
> turning-in point.
> Most people use 54-56% because it DOES shorten your braking distance, and
> because that's what we find in the hotshoes' setups <g> We've learned to
> adapt and drive around the other problems that brings, just like you could
> adapt to driving with 58% bias and be quick that way.

I agree completely; it all depends. Personally I normally use 57% for
most tracks, but my Monza setup is 56%, and that's damn nearly enough
to make me spin and wreck, because I tend to use a lot of engine
braking.
I can't imagine using 54% :) Do you not downshift at all until the last
moment?

Grant.

Leo Landma

Sub 1.28.00 at Monza

by Leo Landma » Sat, 05 Feb 2000 04:00:00



As with brake bias: some do and some don't <g>
Personally I shift down as soon as possible without overrevving the engine.
It shortens the braking distance for me. I just try to be very light on the
braking pedal.
Others don't shift down at all under braking. Some of them are a lot quicker
than me, so obviously it works for THEM.

Bye,
Leo


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