The "Concept 4" wheel isn't too bad...
F355 is pretty decent, but the lack of bumps is very noticeable. It's
interesting to compare the handling with the F360 in the FIA GT Mod - they
share similar characteristics...
The "Concept 4" wheel isn't too bad...
F355 is pretty decent, but the lack of bumps is very noticeable. It's
interesting to compare the handling with the F360 in the FIA GT Mod - they
share similar characteristics...
LOL. It's not that simple I'm afraid. The Xbox's memory bandwidth would
need to increase from 6.4GB/s to 25.6GB/s to maintain the same frame rates.
1600x1200 = 4X as many pixels to push around as 800x600.
> LOL. It's not that simple I'm afraid. The Xbox's memory bandwidth would
> need to increase from 6.4GB/s to 25.6GB/s to maintain the same frame rates.
> 1600x1200 = 4X as many pixels to push around as 800x600.
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Would an Xbox game programmed to send vibrations even put out data that
could usefully be reinterpreted as vector forces, damping, etc? Seems
to me that if a car game only needs to send out a vibration command to
represent tire squeal or hitting a wall, the best FF wheel in the world
isn't going to do any good because the program just isn't generating the
data that the wheel needs to see.
I really have no idea why Microsoft has not come up with a FF mechanism/API
yet, as it should be trivial as a technical issue and they have acres of
cash--I'm guessing it must be business/internal politics of some sort, or
perhaps that they still instinctively avoid anything that resembles a PC...
it could also have something to do with Immersion (this is pure
speculation!!!)--I have the idea that there are some weird entanglements
with the wheel mfgrs.
The gamecube FF scheme is pretty good in that it plugs in to a regular
controller socket and has most of the gamecube controls, so you don't have
the insanity of trying to sort out multitaps and USB hubs; the only problem
is that it won't even work as a passive wheel without custom application
support... MS should really make a wheel that will be backwards compatible
as well as allowing FF to new games, since they've already missed it with
their big driving sellers like PGR. Since they are practically a niche
market at this point, IMHO they should do everything possible to establish
themselves as the "premium" console (HDTV support, 5.1 encoding, etc.), and
having a high quality driving controller is one part of this.
-dave
> Would an Xbox game programmed to send vibrations even put out data that
> could usefully be reinterpreted as vector forces, damping, etc? Seems
> to me that if a car game only needs to send out a vibration command to
> represent tire squeal or hitting a wall, the best FF wheel in the world
> isn't going to do any good because the program just isn't generating the
> data that the wheel needs to see.
> > The xbox controller API is nothing like DirectInput--it's more of a
> > normal console gamepad API like the "other platforms", but I think
> what's
> > preventing a FF device for Xbox is not the API, but probably the usual
> issue
> > of finding a partner to license wheels, getting developers to support
> it,
> > finding a "killer app", etc, etc. I would guess they could make a new
> plug
> > for a USB sidewinder in about ten seconds and get it running, but they
> may
> > be hoping to make a device that can work with legacy games as well
> (which is
> > one of the failings of the logitech wheels for PS2/GameCube)
> I doubt that. Could the X-Box run Flight Simulator (Pro) 2002? I think not!
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Gunnar
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silence is FOO!
BTW, simulation *performance* is not the issue, it's market demand for such
games and appropriate steering wheel/flight stick/kb-mouse availability.
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Joe M.
not!
> > I doubt that. Could the X-Box run Flight Simulator (Pro) 2002? I think not!
> why not? a simlilarly-specced PC will run it fine(-ish).
I don't imagine consoles becoming quite so advanced for a long while.
In the case of MotoGP it's patchable to online play for the Xbox.
So yes, you can tweak and add features to released games on the Xbox.
MS is setting up Xbox Live for just this purpose (downloadable $$$ content).
Pretty advanced what?
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: > > > Consoles *can* match the realism and complexity, it's all about cost
&
: > > > demand.
: > >
: > > I doubt that. Could the X-Box run Flight Simulator (Pro) 2002? I think
not!
: >
: > why not? a simlilarly-specced PC will run it fine(-ish).
:
: Because there's just so much depth to the Flight Simulator series.
: Especially the latest ones. So many options to tweek and fiddle with.
: You can download planes and landscapes. You can even install a few
: dozen add-on packs, which totally change the game from how Microsoft
: wanted it to look at first to how you want it to look.
:
: I don't imagine consoles becoming quite so advanced for a long while.