rec.autos.simulators

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> : You forgot about better controllers for the PC which makes the racers on
> the
> : consoles seem incomplete ...
> :


> : > There's no winner or loser, just good games. Both have their
strengths.
> : > Here's my take on some of it.
> : >
> : > PC
> : > Games are cheaper.
> : > Very easy to patch.
> : > For most online games low ping rules, some servers laggy (ala BF1942)
> : > You'll get the best eye candy from the PC (1600x1200 with 4xAA kinda
> : stuff).
> : > Sound in games is hit or miss
> : > Team Killers and Laggers.
> : > More $$$$
> : > Single player in the room on a chair.
> : >
> : > Console
> : >
> : > Games usually cost more.
> : > Generally no need to patch (and you can with the Xbox).
> : > No worries about 56k laggers (Xbox Live, broadband only)
> : > Great graphics (they can go up to 1080i and use large displays
(HDTVs)).
> : > Great sound (Dolby 5.1 in all games .. Xbox).
> : > Online will be somewhat more controlled (read Xbox), no Team Killers,
> : > centrally controlled and you can block players easy.
> : > Consoles are cheap (P3-733, 64MB, 8Gig HD, GForce 3+ video, again Xbox
> : $299
> : > CDN).
> : > Up to 4 Players in the room (Xbox again), you'll get to know your
couch
> : > again.
> : >
> : > For the price of a console (almost equal to a good video card) you can
> : have
> : > both.
> : >
> : >
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> : >
> : >


> : > : The PC is still the winner or can we migrate towards the console
world
> : > with
> : > : no pain?
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
> :

> > Until they are running 1600X1200 consoles will never be right for me.
At
> > least not at current console/game prices.

> > -Larry

> > > The PC is still the winner or can we migrate towards the console world
> > with
> > > no pain?

> The most realistic-feeling physics model on cars I can relate to is World
> Rally Championship, also for the PS2, and tons (tonnes for you Euros)
better
> than Rallisport Challenge: the 4WD cars feel like 4WD cars in WRC, not
like
> the above-mentioned tail-happy Sprinters in RC's rally cars.  There's a
WRC2
> available in Europe, but incredibly, despite the surge in interest in the
> World Rally Championship over here (thanks to Speedvision...I
guess...Motor
> Trend's readers favor international rallying over everything but NASCAR:
F1,
> CART, the IRL, etc.), Sony hasn't seen fit to bring the title to the U.S.
> "We've already got too many racing titles," the p.r. guy told me.

> --Steve

> > What about the realism of race simulations? There will ever be a
> aka-NASCAR
> > Racing 2002 for XBox?

> Consoles *can* match the realism and complexity, it's all about cost &
> demand.

> --
> Joe M.

> > Limit number of keys on controllers.
> > Imagine playing a decent flightsim on an Xbox which requires a zillion
key
> > combinations...

> > > Until they are running 1600X1200 consoles will never be right for me.
> At
> > > least not at current console/game prices.

> > > -Larry

> > > > The PC is still the winner or can we migrate towards the console
world
> > > with
> > > > no pain?

> > Until they are running 1600X1200 consoles will never be right for me.  At
> > least not at current console/game prices.

> you complain about prices? you want 1600x1200 on a console your gonna pay
> through your nose.
>  The reason consoles are so cheap is because they can not do 1600x1200, the
> memory required would bump up the hardware price too much, so they are left
> for the mainstream on TV use.

> >I agree, Ive done a bit of racing in the past and when I booted up F355
on a
> >Dreamcast I was pleasantly surprised, it just had that 'on edge at speed'
> >feeling, Im looking for a steering wheel/pedal setup for it now.

> If you find a good one could you let us know?  All the wheels I've
> purchased for my Dreamcast are totally useless.

> Jason