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I'm sick of Papys AI

GT2X

I'm sick of Papys AI

by GT2X » Tue, 06 Jul 1999 04:00:00




>> It seems as though the only avoiding action they ever take is to slow
>> down if you've got right in front of them (and sometimes they don't even
>> manage that!).

>If I start in the middle of the pack at Kyalami, 8/10 times I'll get
>taken out by someone running into the back of me on the first corner as
>they seem to brake later than me and slow down quicker.

The problem is that if they are following you very closely, and brake
exactly at the point you do, that might still end up with them running
into you.  (Because distance between cars for a given time differential
becomes less as speed becomes less).  They need to know to brake
earlier, or move to the side, if someone is ahead of them.  (And moving
to the inside is tricky because their nose might get clipped as you
turn in, or you might move to the inside soon to block--in fact in real
racing practice a leader might use an artificial inside blocking line,
leaving the follower the outside line with extra braking room).

Now, possibly, they know when to brake when following an "ideal braker"
for the corner, and you are actually braking too soon.  But really,
that sounds unlikely, it would be difficult for them to calculate.
They'd have to calculate the projected position of the "ideal braker",
and then calculate the braking they should use to avoid it.  (And, I'm
sure you've rear-ended AI drivers in a similar situation, too).
Braking when they see or know you brake might be sufficient, or it
might not, depending upon the exact situation.

Hmm.  I guess if they slow down more quickly, my they could be braking
for an "ideal brakeer", and we all make sense.  They could be assuming
you will slow down as quickly as they do.

Does this happen when you take the inside or outside line?  If the
inside, perhaps if you took the outside they will go inside you
(even if they pass, well, that could be better than an accident).
If the outside, then perhaps if you took an artificial inside line
they would use the extra room on the outside.

Of course, at the start there are probably usually at least tbehind you, so there will be one to run into you no matter which line
you take.  8-)

Maybe your best bet is to try and qualify last.  8-)

Of course, I've never actually raced this simulator, I'm just curious
about how the cars do behave.

Adrian.

Jack Ramb

I'm sick of Papys AI

by Jack Ramb » Tue, 06 Jul 1999 04:00:00

But, Andre, I'm just trying to lessen the shock when GPaL finally does show
up!

Jack Rambo
www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

Neil Rain

I'm sick of Papys AI

by Neil Rain » Wed, 07 Jul 1999 04:00:00


> Of course, I've never actually raced this simulator, I'm just curious
> about how the cars do behave.

> Adrian.

Are you crazy?  Go straight to the shops and buy a copy!  ;-)

Then you'll see what we've all been raving about for so long!

I do actually find it very exciting to race the AI, particularly now
that I can stay with the AI for more than the first couple of
corners(!).

In fact I generally qualify on pole against them, but I still win very
few races, as I usually make a mistake somewhere along the line.

In many ways it's more fun to skip practice and start from the back of
the grid against a field of slightly weakened AI cars - then you can try
to pass them.

Still can't beat racing online though  ;-)

GT2X

I'm sick of Papys AI

by GT2X » Wed, 07 Jul 1999 04:00:00




>> Of course, I've never actually raced this simulator, I'm just curious
>> about how the cars do behave.

>> Adrian.

>Are you crazy?  Go straight to the shops and buy a copy!  ;-)

Um.  I should probably buy a computer and appropriate controllers
first, shouldn't I?  8-)  A bit more of an investment...

But I definitely will keep GPL in mind when we get around to getting
a new computer (or probably better be two; one for my wife).

I guess most people use 15" monitors or so?  I'll find that yucky.
At work my PC is a small 19, my Xterminal the same, and the iMac,
well it doesn't get used unless I have to...  8-)  (No I will not
stoop to putting GPL on my computer at work... no smiley here...)

A 20" TV is nice with Gran Turismo--my inlaw's 25" is overwhelming,
and has too good resolution.  (shows the jaggies).

I can't believe you really need super high resolution to get a
realistic-looking driving game, when everyone is used to watching
races at television quality.

But I'm worried about the ***ion aspect of GPL, too...

Adrian.

Tim Wheatle

I'm sick of Papys AI

by Tim Wheatle » Wed, 07 Jul 1999 04:00:00

GRRRRRRRRRRR! You know what I mean, if they could learn the laps I DON'T
crash on!
Tim Wheatle

I'm sick of Papys AI

by Tim Wheatle » Wed, 07 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Takes me a long time to build up to a pass, if 1.1 isn't out soon i'm gonna
keel over with the shock!

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