rec.autos.simulators

by **ChrisG2** » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 09:06:22

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

I bought a Logitech Formula wheel from them and it was fine. I wonder how
the MOMO wheel is?

Chris G.

by **Haqsa** » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 09:19:34

It says "factory re-certified". If I'm not mistaken that means it is a
part that was returned under warranty and they either repaired it or
were unable to find a problem with it, so they are re-selling it.
That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I just wanted to point that out
to any prospective buyers. Caveat emptor.

by **DJR** » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 10:54:10

Will this wheel work with a PS2?

by **The Other Larr** » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 11:47:18

Yes, and refurbished equipment usually has a much shorter warranty than new
product.

-Larry

> It says "factory re-certified". If I'm not mistaken that means it is a
> part that was returned under warranty and they either repaired it or
> were unable to find a problem with it, so they are re-selling it.
> That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I just wanted to point that out
> to any prospective buyers. Caveat emptor.

> > http://store.yahoo.com/justdeals/logmomforste.html

> > I bought a Logitech Formula wheel from them and it was fine. I wonder
> how
> > the MOMO wheel is?

> > Chris G.

by **Dave Henri** » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 13:06:46

I had a refurbished LWFF from Justdeals. It was rock solid for two years.
Then I thought I could "IMPROVE" it...now it's in pieces in a box. I think
refurbished also means you get somebody who checks out a piece rather than
running it through an assembly line at Warp speeds. Still, be sure of any
warranty policy before you make a purchase.
dave henrie

by **Eldre** » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 14:17:10

>It says "factory re-certified". If I'm not mistaken that means it is a
>part that was returned under warranty and they either repaired it or
>were unable to find a problem with it, so they are re-selling it.
>That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I just wanted to point that out
>to any prospective buyers. Caveat emptor.

I've heard a theory that a re-manufactured item is often better than the
original. The original is simply stamped out by an assembly line. The
re-manufactured is worked on by a factory technician who replaces the bad parts
and makes SURE everything works. It made sense to me when I heard it...

Eldred
--
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...

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by **Les** » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 17:16:27

Yes.

by **Steve Smit** » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 19:52:21

That one has a 30-day warranty. Just a blink on the eye of God, but a third
of the way to eternity for a computer part. (Just a little theosophy,
there.)

> > Yes, and refurbished equipment usually has a much shorter warranty than
> new
> > product.

> > -Larry
> I had a refurbished LWFF from Justdeals. It was rock solid for two
years.
> Then I thought I could "IMPROVE" it...now it's in pieces in a box. I
think
> refurbished also means you get somebody who checks out a piece rather than
> running it through an assembly line at Warp speeds. Still, be sure of
any
> warranty policy before you make a purchase.
> dave henrie

by **DTP** » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 19:59:48

Agreed Eldred. Over the years I've purchased many refurbished products at
significantly lower than new prices and and have never been let down. I'll
be grabbing one of those Momo's. Hat's off to ChrisG27 for the head's up.

--
See ya in the pits,
Dean

I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how
long it's been since I've forgotten anything.

> >It says "factory re-certified". If I'm not mistaken that means it is a
> >part that was returned under warranty and they either repaired it or
> >were unable to find a problem with it, so they are re-selling it.
> >That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I just wanted to point that out
> >to any prospective buyers. Caveat emptor.

> I've heard a theory that a re-manufactured item is often better than the
> original. The original is simply stamped out by an assembly line. The
> re-manufactured is worked on by a factory technician who replaces the bad
parts
> and makes SURE everything works. It made sense to me when I heard it...

> Eldred
> --
> Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
you
> with experience...

> Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

by **ChrisG2** » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 21:48:32

Hat's off to ChrisG27 for the head's up.

Dean,

Just looking out for my fellow sim racers

Chris G.

> --
> See ya in the pits,
> Dean

> I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how
> long it's been since I've forgotten anything.

> > >It says "factory re-certified". If I'm not mistaken that means it is a
> > >part that was returned under warranty and they either repaired it or
> > >were unable to find a problem with it, so they are re-selling it.
> > >That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I just wanted to point that out
> > >to any prospective buyers. Caveat emptor.

> > I've heard a theory that a re-manufactured item is often better than the
> > original. The original is simply stamped out by an assembly line. The
> > re-manufactured is worked on by a factory technician who replaces the
bad
> parts
> > and makes SURE everything works. It made sense to me when I heard it...

> > Eldred
> > --
> > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
> you
> > with experience...

> > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

by **Brian Bowle** » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 22:29:22

My only concern is what if it breaks 6 months from now. Isnt logitech the
company that does not carry parts? I mean you are just out of luck? What do
you guys think? Just deals chargers $8.95 for shipping so this is basically
$100. I have thought about it. I am torn between paying this much or paying
$50 more at newegg and getting a one year warranty. If I could have it
repaired or find parts for it that would be different. I do not know if it
is possible or not.
Brian Bowles

> > Agreed Eldred. Over the years I've purchased many refurbished products
at
> > significantly lower than new prices and and have never been let down.
I'll
> > be grabbing one of those Momo's.

> Hat's off to ChrisG27 for the head's up.

> Dean,

> Just looking out for my fellow sim racers

> Chris G.

> > --
> > See ya in the pits,
> > Dean

> > I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember
how
> > long it's been since I've forgotten anything.

> > > >It says "factory re-certified". If I'm not mistaken that means it is
a
> > > >part that was returned under warranty and they either repaired it or
> > > >were unable to find a problem with it, so they are re-selling it.
> > > >That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I just wanted to point that
out
> > > >to any prospective buyers. Caveat emptor.

> > > I've heard a theory that a re-manufactured item is often better than
the
> > > original. The original is simply stamped out by an assembly line.
The
> > > re-manufactured is worked on by a factory technician who replaces the
> bad
> > parts
> > > and makes SURE everything works. It made sense to me when I heard
it...

> > > Eldred
> > > --
> > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then
beats
> > you
> > > with experience...

> > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

by **Steve Garrot** » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 22:39:58

Buy.com also has them for $92.95 (US) and they have only 2 or so in
stock. Justdeals.com is out of stock :-(

SLG

>> Agreed Eldred. Over the years I've purchased many refurbished products at
>> significantly lower than new prices and and have never been let down. I'll
>> be grabbing one of those Momo's.

> Hat's off to ChrisG27 for the head's up.

>Dean,

>Just looking out for my fellow sim racers

>Chris G.

>> --
>> See ya in the pits,
>> Dean

>> I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how
>> long it's been since I've forgotten anything.

>> > >It says "factory re-certified". If I'm not mistaken that means it is a
>> > >part that was returned under warranty and they either repaired it or
>> > >were unable to find a problem with it, so they are re-selling it.
>> > >That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I just wanted to point that out
>> > >to any prospective buyers. Caveat emptor.

>> > I've heard a theory that a re-manufactured item is often better than the
>> > original. The original is simply stamped out by an assembly line. The
>> > re-manufactured is worked on by a factory technician who replaces the
>bad
>> parts
>> > and makes SURE everything works. It made sense to me when I heard it...

>> > Eldred
>> > --
>> > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
>> > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
>> you
>> > with experience...

>> > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new
and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are
due to too many English classes/teachers)

by **Brian Bowle** » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 23:01:23

I ordered from buy.com but i canceled my order once i realized it was a
refurbished one. They want a lot for shipping. The total cost ends up being
108 and they have the new ones for 156 free shipping.

> Buy.com also has them for $92.95 (US) and they have only 2 or so in
> stock. Justdeals.com is out of stock :-(

> SLG

> >> Agreed Eldred. Over the years I've purchased many refurbished products
at
> >> significantly lower than new prices and and have never been let down.
I'll
> >> be grabbing one of those Momo's.

> > Hat's off to ChrisG27 for the head's up.

> >Dean,

> >Just looking out for my fellow sim racers

> >Chris G.

> >> --
> >> See ya in the pits,
> >> Dean

> >> I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember
how
> >> long it's been since I've forgotten anything.

> >> > >It says "factory re-certified". If I'm not mistaken that means it
is a
> >> > >part that was returned under warranty and they either repaired it or
> >> > >were unable to find a problem with it, so they are re-selling it.
> >> > >That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I just wanted to point that
out
> >> > >to any prospective buyers. Caveat emptor.

> >> > I've heard a theory that a re-manufactured item is often better than
the
> >> > original. The original is simply stamped out by an assembly line.
The
> >> > re-manufactured is worked on by a factory technician who replaces the
> >bad
> >> parts
> >> > and makes SURE everything works. It made sense to me when I heard
it...

> >> > Eldred
> >> > --
> >> > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> >> > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then
beats
> >> you
> >> > with experience...

> >> > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> (All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new
> and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are
> due to too many English classes/teachers)

by **The Other Larr** » Wed, 03 Jul 2002 04:51:47

I was just thinking...

Companies usually don't enlist resellers the size of Buy.Com unless they
have a LOT of pallett's to move...

Why are there so many refurb Momo's ?

Hmmm...

-Larry

> I ordered from buy.com but i canceled my order once i realized it was a
> refurbished one. They want a lot for shipping. The total cost ends up
being
> 108 and they have the new ones for 156 free shipping.

> > Buy.com also has them for $92.95 (US) and they have only 2 or so in
> > stock. Justdeals.com is out of stock :-(

> > SLG

> > >> Agreed Eldred. Over the years I've purchased many refurbished
products
> at
> > >> significantly lower than new prices and and have never been let down.
> I'll
> > >> be grabbing one of those Momo's.

> > > Hat's off to ChrisG27 for the head's up.

> > >Dean,

> > >Just looking out for my fellow sim racers

> > >Chris G.

> > >> --
> > >> See ya in the pits,
> > >> Dean

> > >> I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember
> how
> > >> long it's been since I've forgotten anything.

> > >> > >It says "factory re-certified". If I'm not mistaken that means it
> is a
> > >> > >part that was returned under warranty and they either repaired it
or
> > >> > >were unable to find a problem with it, so they are re-selling it.
> > >> > >That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I just wanted to point
that
> out
> > >> > >to any prospective buyers. Caveat emptor.

> > >> > I've heard a theory that a re-manufactured item is often better
than
> the
> > >> > original. The original is simply stamped out by an assembly line.
> The
> > >> > re-manufactured is worked on by a factory technician who replaces
the
> > >bad
> > >> parts
> > >> > and makes SURE everything works. It made sense to me when I heard
> it...

> > >> > Eldred
> > >> > --
> > >> > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> > >> > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then
> beats
> > >> you
> > >> > with experience...

> > >> > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> > (All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new
> > and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are
> > due to too many English classes/teachers)

by **Tim Mise** » Wed, 03 Jul 2002 05:53:22

Thought I'd chime in about my dealings with Justdeals.com. In the last
year, I've placed about $1000 worth of orders with justdeals.com for mostly
refurbished Logitech keyboards and mouses but a bit of everything including
speakers and joysticks, pc cameras, etc. (Shipping at justdeals was $8.95
plus $1 for each additional item so it was better to order in large
quanitities so all of us in my office pool together to place a single large
order. Anyway, to get to my point, out of the approx 100 refurbished items
I and my colleagues have ordered, we have had 1 cordless mouse that was DOA
and justdeals replaced it after sending it back to them. The products are
usually not in their original packaging but do usually come with their
manuals and I have never seen any scratches or signs of use from them. Most
of our orders were placed last winter and so far, they all still work.

-Tim

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