rec.autos.simulators

Now, I get 36fps pretty much all the time, everywhere, but it never exceeds
36fps.

Is this normal ?

-Larry

yep there's a limit at 36

I'm not actually too sure how accurate 36fps is.

I'll get flamed for saying this but people (scientific people) say the human
eye can't detect anything more than 25fps. I find that to be true in a lot
of sims.
Some sims you still notice the difference even up to 30fps but even if you
dip to 32-33 fps in GPL you start to notice it a lot!

I wonder how accurate built-in counters are some times.

Hi!

The special problem with GPL is, that its internal physics engine is running
at steady 288 Hz, no matter what fps your hardware is capable of. The only
way to get the output on screen properly synchronized with the internal
physics is to nail the fps-rate on 36 (that's 288 divided by 8) and that's
exactly what GPL is doing. If your hardware is too slow (i. e. your
framerate drops), you'll miss significant information from the physics
engine because of its realtime behaviour and therefore your driving will
become more or less jerky.

Regards
Crash

Which scientific people? Tell them the limits of perception have been
established at well over 100 frames per second.

In GPL the controls are tied to the frame rate. 25 fps makes your driving a
lot less accurate than 36 fps.

Bye,
Leo

-Larry

-Larry

Andrew McP

Talk about 60fps, you can't see a visible frame rate change, just a boost in
PC performance.
60fps on a Tv couldn't be detected since you don't have the PC telling you
what it's doing.

25 might be pushing, it, i think you can tell up to 30fps if your sensitive
enough but after that, not really.

Anyway, that's off topic, my point is that you need solid 36fps to run
smoothly in GPL, even 32-33 is jumpy, it's different to all sims.
That leads me to believe that each game seems to have it's own
interpretation of FPS and forgets that it stands for frames per SECOND! due
to slow-mo effects.

Sure, it's easy for a person to add to their own game a graphic telling them
the are getting 100fps, doesn't mean they actually are though.

http://www.cdmag.com/Home/home.html?article=/articles/031/105/thw0101...
ml <-------- note the wrap!!

...wouldn't be a bad place to start.

Andrew "I'm sure we haven't had the frame rate debate for at least two
weeks" McP

http://www.penstarsys.com/editor/30v60/30v60p1.htm

It's the best article I've seen to date.

Andrew McP

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