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Logitech G25

Steve Gare

Logitech G25

by Steve Gare » Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:45:04

Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with GPL or
NR2003?

I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel and
pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)?

Cheers

Steve

Darry

Logitech G25

by Darry » Fri, 04 Jan 2008 01:07:20


I just use the wheel paddles for gear changes -- mostly because I was
used to doing it that way from previous wheels.

The gearshift has one important drawback (at least in my house): it
makes a loud click as you change gears. My wife is sleeping in the
other bedroom when I'n doing most of my racing, and the noise bothers
her. Other than the noise, I've had no issues with the shifter
(although, I only tried it briefly before going back to using the
paddles.)

The wheel set works fine with both games you name. Other drivers in my
NR2003 league mentioned how my driving is much smoother with the G25,
compared to what it was like with my old LWFF wheel.

I really like mine. When it was new, I could smell the leather around
the steering wheel. Ahhh!

--
  Darryl

Lancelo

Logitech G25

by Lancelo » Fri, 04 Jan 2008 01:35:39

The gearshift has one important drawback (at least in my house): it

Haha I see what you mean about the gear shift noise. LOL damn near louder
than the car!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB_kWmbmX6I

Tony

Logitech G25

by Tony » Fri, 04 Jan 2008 03:57:27


> Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with GPL or
> NR2003?

> I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel and
> pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)?

I find the gearstick is perfectly fine in sequential mode but feels
unlike a real gear lever in h-pattern mode and makes a lot of clicking
noises.

Overall it is a fine wheel and pedals and I would recommend it.

I see no reason why it wouldn't work with the act-labs shifter, both are
usb devices and should show up as separate controllers you can select
the controls from to mix & match.

Cheers
Tony

Steve Gare

Logitech G25

by Steve Gare » Sat, 05 Jan 2008 02:49:44

Thanks Chaps

Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel use a pot
or is it solid state?

Cheers

Steve



>> Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with GPL
>> or NR2003?

>> I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel and
>> pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)?

> I find the gearstick is perfectly fine in sequential mode but feels unlike
> a real gear lever in h-pattern mode and makes a lot of clicking noises.

> Overall it is a fine wheel and pedals and I would recommend it.

> I see no reason why it wouldn't work with the act-labs shifter, both are
> usb devices and should show up as separate controllers you can select the
> controls from to mix & match.

> Cheers
> Tony

pdot..

Logitech G25

by pdot.. » Sat, 05 Jan 2008 03:15:58

Haven't heard of any switch issues, or had any problems myself.  There
is no potentiometer in the G25, at least not in the classical sense.
Positioning is handled onboard one of the motors with what appears to
be an optical or magnetic sensor.

Pat Dotson
UltraForce Simulations LLC
http://www.ultraforcesim.com


> Thanks Chaps

> Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel use a pot
> or is it solid state?

> Cheers

> Steve




> >> Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with GPL
> >> or NR2003?

> >> I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel and
> >> pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)?

> > I find the gearstick is perfectly fine in sequential mode but feels unlike
> > a real gear lever in h-pattern mode and makes a lot of clicking noises.

> > Overall it is a fine wheel and pedals and I would recommend it.

> > I see no reason why it wouldn't work with the act-labs shifter, both are
> > usb devices and should show up as separate controllers you can select the
> > controls from to mix & match.

> > Cheers
> > Tony- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

Larr

Logitech G25

by Larr » Sat, 05 Jan 2008 05:16:58

Wheel - Optical.
Pedals - Pots (industry standard and p/n's are available).
Shifter - Pots.  Not sure if industry standard or not.

-Larry


> Thanks Chaps

> Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel use a
> pot or is it solid state?

> Cheers

> Steve




>>> Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with GPL
>>> or NR2003?

>>> I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel and
>>> pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)?

>> I find the gearstick is perfectly fine in sequential mode but feels
>> unlike a real gear lever in h-pattern mode and makes a lot of clicking
>> noises.

>> Overall it is a fine wheel and pedals and I would recommend it.

>> I see no reason why it wouldn't work with the act-labs shifter, both are
>> usb devices and should show up as separate controllers you can select the
>> controls from to mix & match.

>> Cheers
>> Tony

Rod

Logitech G25

by Rod » Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:09:50

On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:49:44 GMT, "Steve Garey"


>Thanks Chaps

>Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel use a pot
>or is it solid state?

>Cheers

>Steve

On the G25? Mine seems to have problems shifting into 5th
after normal use. It gets stuck going from 4th as if there's
a lip on the gate, catching the shifter. Not good when you're
racing.

On the whole, the gated shifter is the let down on the G25.
The wheel and pedals are absolutely superb. If you put the
shifter into sequential mode, acceptable. In gated mode, I'm
not a fan. I pick 4 speeds when I play GTL and it's GTR
counterpart to avoid shifting into 5th.

Cheers,
Rod.

Ronald Stoeh

Logitech G25

by Ronald Stoeh » Sat, 05 Jan 2008 22:38:09

Hi, Steve!

Of course, the shifter only contains springs and switches.
Some will never "get it", although they never calibrated those
mystic "pots"... ;)

l8er
ronny



>> Thanks Chaps

>> Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel use
>> a pot or is it solid state?

>> Cheers

>> Steve




>>>> Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with
>>>> GPL or NR2003?

>>>> I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel
>>>> and pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)?

>>> I find the gearstick is perfectly fine in sequential mode but feels
>>> unlike a real gear lever in h-pattern mode and makes a lot of
>>> clicking noises.

>>> Overall it is a fine wheel and pedals and I would recommend it.

>>> I see no reason why it wouldn't work with the act-labs shifter, both
>>> are usb devices and should show up as separate controllers you can
>>> select the controls from to mix & match.

>>> Cheers
>>> Tony

Larr

Logitech G25

by Larr » Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:20:18

The shifter has no switches.  They are pots.  This came directly from
Logitech support.

-Larry


> Hi, Steve!

> Of course, the shifter only contains springs and switches.
> Some will never "get it", although they never calibrated those
> mystic "pots"... ;)

> l8er
> ronny



>>> Thanks Chaps

>>> Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel use a
>>> pot or is it solid state?

>>> Cheers

>>> Steve




>>>>> Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with
>>>>> GPL or NR2003?

>>>>> I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel and
>>>>> pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)?

>>>> I find the gearstick is perfectly fine in sequential mode but feels
>>>> unlike a real gear lever in h-pattern mode and makes a lot of clicking
>>>> noises.

>>>> Overall it is a fine wheel and pedals and I would recommend it.

>>>> I see no reason why it wouldn't work with the act-labs shifter, both
>>>> are usb devices and should show up as separate controllers you can
>>>> select the controls from to mix & match.

>>>> Cheers
>>>> Tony

Steve Gare

Logitech G25

by Steve Gare » Sun, 06 Jan 2008 21:17:11

To everyone

Thanks very much for the feedback

Cheers

Steve


> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:49:44 GMT, "Steve Garey"

>>Thanks Chaps

>>Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel use a
>>pot
>>or is it solid state?

>>Cheers

>>Steve

> On the G25? Mine seems to have problems shifting into 5th
> after normal use. It gets stuck going from 4th as if there's
> a lip on the gate, catching the shifter. Not good when you're
> racing.

> On the whole, the gated shifter is the let down on the G25.
> The wheel and pedals are absolutely superb. If you put the
> shifter into sequential mode, acceptable. In gated mode, I'm
> not a fan. I pick 4 speeds when I play GTL and it's GTR
> counterpart to avoid shifting into 5th.

> Cheers,
> Rod.

Quentin Queerbotto

Logitech G25

by Quentin Queerbotto » Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:35:17

Larry, I took mine apart and it has switches in it.


> The shifter has no switches.  They are pots.  This came directly from
> Logitech support.

> -Larry



>> Hi, Steve!

>> Of course, the shifter only contains springs and switches.
>> Some will never "get it", although they never calibrated those
>> mystic "pots"... ;)

>> l8er
>> ronny



>>>> Thanks Chaps

>>>> Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel use
>>>> a pot or is it solid state?

>>>> Cheers

>>>> Steve




>>>>>> Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with
>>>>>> GPL or NR2003?

>>>>>> I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel
>>>>>> and pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)?

>>>>> I find the gearstick is perfectly fine in sequential mode but feels
>>>>> unlike a real gear lever in h-pattern mode and makes a lot of clicking
>>>>> noises.

>>>>> Overall it is a fine wheel and pedals and I would recommend it.

>>>>> I see no reason why it wouldn't work with the act-labs shifter, both
>>>>> are usb devices and should show up as separate controllers you can
>>>>> select the controls from to mix & match.

>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Tony

P Ga

Logitech G25

by P Ga » Tue, 08 Jan 2008 00:06:39




> *Date:* Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:20:18 -0500

> The shifter has no switches.  They are pots.  This came directly
> from Logitech support.

> -Larry

Sorry Larry, but the shifter would not need to have pots.

Pots (potentieometers) are used to measure the movement and position of a
controller or device when there is more than just two potential positions
(eg: on and off), for example to measure the position of a pedal or a
steering wheel, as the potential position of the device is almost
infinate (between two stop points), IYSWIM.

For the shifter, the device or controller only needs to know whether the
gear lever is in one of two positions (for each gear), eg: in that gear
or not in that gear.

Therefore this is easily achieved using micro switches.

I hope my very simple explanation gets across what I am trying to say.

8-)

*Peter* -  http://homepage.ntlworld.com/petergagg/

John Smit

Logitech G25

by John Smit » Tue, 08 Jan 2008 03:01:33





>> *Date:* Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:20:18 -0500

>> The shifter has no switches.  They are pots.  This came directly
>> from Logitech support.

>> -Larry

> Sorry Larry, but the shifter would not need to have pots.

Well, in this case Larry is right. The shifter has two potentiometers and
one switch (to determine whether it's pushed down or not). The mechanism is
not unlike a joyistick that has a metal gate to only allow certainly
positions, which are then translated into "gearshift buttons" by the
firmware.

This thread (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uk-T46soz8) has some pictures
and a little bit of discussion about the construction.

You describe one possible approach, likely the most obvious one. I am not
sure why the "joystick" approach was chosen over the "microswitch" approach,
but I'm sure there must be reasons.

Larr

Logitech G25

by Larr » Wed, 09 Jan 2008 02:40:16

Hmmm.... Interesting.  I don't know why Logitec would have told me
otherwise...

-Larry



> Larry, I took mine apart and it has switches in it.



>> The shifter has no switches.  They are pots.  This came directly from
>> Logitech support.

>> -Larry



>>> Hi, Steve!

>>> Of course, the shifter only contains springs and switches.
>>> Some will never "get it", although they never calibrated those
>>> mystic "pots"... ;)

>>> l8er
>>> ronny



>>>>> Thanks Chaps

>>>>> Any known issues with pots or switches wearing out? Does the wheel use
>>>>> a pot or is it solid state?

>>>>> Cheers

>>>>> Steve




>>>>>>> Thinking about getting one. Any issues about getting it to work with
>>>>>>> GPL or NR2003?

>>>>>>> I also read the gearstick is not that great. Could I use the wheel
>>>>>>> and pedals with my ACT Labs shifter (gearstick)?

>>>>>> I find the gearstick is perfectly fine in sequential mode but feels
>>>>>> unlike a real gear lever in h-pattern mode and makes a lot of
>>>>>> clicking noises.

>>>>>> Overall it is a fine wheel and pedals and I would recommend it.

>>>>>> I see no reason why it wouldn't work with the act-labs shifter, both
>>>>>> are usb devices and should show up as separate controllers you can
>>>>>> select the controls from to mix & match.

>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Tony


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