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Papy and Indycar Sims?

jame

Papy and Indycar Sims?

by jame » Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:20:48

Anyone know what Papy are up to at the moment.  I hope that they are not in
the process of writing Nascar 5 'cos its all got a bit samey recently.

GPL was a great departure for them and I wish they'd do some more (we didn't
get Nascar Legends in the UK for some reason).

What I'd really like is to be able to race the latest CART or IRL cars.
CART would be more difficult for them 'cos they'd have to recreate alot of
new road course tracks for the sim, but surely an updated Nascar 4 engine
and a bit of physics modelling would recreate a pretty good IRL sim?

James

TRUSRS

Papy and Indycar Sims?

by TRUSRS » Mon, 13 Aug 2001 00:36:44

WE NEED A NEW CART SIM PAPY!!!!!

PLEASE?!?!?!

CART CART CART CART SIM !!!!

Haqsa

Papy and Indycar Sims?

by Haqsa » Mon, 13 Aug 2001 03:20:42

Actually they have already done most of the tracks for the Indy/CART sim
they did about three years ago, so it would probably just be a matter of
updating them with more detail and higher res textures.


Jan Verschuere

Papy and Indycar Sims?

by Jan Verschuere » Mon, 13 Aug 2001 04:16:32

Not that easy... ICR2 track format is quite different (not really 3D, IIRC)
to that used for the current engine. Also, that game was based on the 95 (I
think??) season and a lot of tracks have been changed/added in these 6
years.

Jan.
=---
<snip>

Olav K. Malm

Papy and Indycar Sims?

by Olav K. Malm » Mon, 13 Aug 2001 05:05:21


> "Haqsau" wrote...
> > Actually they have already done most of the tracks for
> > the Indy/CART sim they did about three years ago, so it
> > would probably just be a matter of updating them with
> > more detail and higher res textures.
> <snip>

> Not that easy... ICR2 track format is quite different (not really 3D, IIRC)
> to that used for the current engine. Also, that game was based on the 95 (I
> think??) season and a lot of tracks have been changed/added in these 6
> years.

But remember that Papy said they would make a CART sim in 99. You
never know what they got on their sweet little harddisks. :)

How come they used so long time to make N4 ? Definately not the
tracks. Remember N4 was supposed to be released two years ago as N3.

Olav

Luke Phillip

Papy and Indycar Sims?

by Luke Phillip » Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:57:08

Its gotta be CART. IRL is just openwheel NASCAR, and that would also get a
bit samey. I enjoy close racing that you get in nascar, but providing
another basically oval only sim would be a waste of their time. A CART sim
would be HUUGE!

Luke
-=87=-


Rafe McAulif

Papy and Indycar Sims?

by Rafe McAulif » Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:36:56

LOL always reliable man.

BTW, I agree totally :)

Rafe Mc

jame

Papy and Indycar Sims?

by jame » Tue, 14 Aug 2001 03:27:01

Just finished watching Mid Ohio (shame about Franchitti).  It'd be great to
have all those road courses to race in a CART sim.  I think Olav's right
about the IRL/Nascar comparison.  We definitely need a CART sim - the cars
are great, its ultra competitive (no-one seems to be ***) and the range
of circuits is brilliant - superspeedways, tri-ovals, small ovals,street
circuits and road circuits.  Its also posssible to overtake in them too (I
love GP3, but its very unrealistic 'cos I can overtake other cars on the
track instead of just in the pits!!).

James


> Its gotta be CART. IRL is just openwheel NASCAR, and that would also get a
> bit samey. I enjoy close racing that you get in nascar, but providing
> another basically oval only sim would be a waste of their time. A CART sim
> would be HUUGE!

> Luke
> -=87=-



> > Anyone know what Papy are up to at the moment.  I hope that they are not
> in
> > the process of writing Nascar 5 'cos its all got a bit samey recently.

> > GPL was a great departure for them and I wish they'd do some more (we
> didn't
> > get Nascar Legends in the UK for some reason).

> > What I'd really like is to be able to race the latest CART or IRL cars.
> > CART would be more difficult for them 'cos they'd have to recreate alot
of
> > new road course tracks for the sim, but surely an updated Nascar 4
engine
> > and a bit of physics modelling would recreate a pretty good IRL sim?

> > James

Dave Henri

Papy and Indycar Sims?

by Dave Henri » Tue, 14 Aug 2001 06:00:37

  See the CART Heat
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
and the CART 2K patches(f1cs2k)
should be a link at bhmotorsports.com
  Both have folks who can create/edit tracks.  We will be seeing some of
those shortly.
  And....  the ICR2 patch for N3 is comming along nicely.  they have an
online league forming with some tweeks that get IRL speeds outta N3 with F1
braking and CART tire grip.  This uses many of the Old ICR2 tracks like Mid
Ohio, Road America etc...but remember, it really is just N3 with new shapes
& tweeks,  and the ICR2 tracks are hopelessly out of date....but if thats
all we gots...I'll take it.
http://www.racesimcentral.net/~dtech/n3/ic4n3/ic4n3.htm


> Just finished watching Mid Ohio (shame about Franchitti).  It'd be great
to
> have all those road courses to race in a CART sim.  I think Olav's right
> about the IRL/Nascar comparison.  We definitely need a CART sim - the cars
> are great, its ultra competitive (no-one seems to be ***) and the
range
> of circuits is brilliant - superspeedways, tri-ovals, small ovals,street
> circuits and road circuits.  Its also posssible to overtake in them too (I
> love GP3, but its very unrealistic 'cos I can overtake other cars on the
> track instead of just in the pits!!).

> James



> > Its gotta be CART. IRL is just openwheel NASCAR, and that would also get
a
> > bit samey. I enjoy close racing that you get in nascar, but providing
> > another basically oval only sim would be a waste of their time. A CART
sim
> > would be HUUGE!

> > Luke
> > -=87=-



> > > Anyone know what Papy are up to at the moment.  I hope that they are
not
> > in
> > > the process of writing Nascar 5 'cos its all got a bit samey recently.

> > > GPL was a great departure for them and I wish they'd do some more (we
> > didn't
> > > get Nascar Legends in the UK for some reason).

> > > What I'd really like is to be able to race the latest CART or IRL
cars.
> > > CART would be more difficult for them 'cos they'd have to recreate
alot
> of
> > > new road course tracks for the sim, but surely an updated Nascar 4
> engine
> > > and a bit of physics modelling would recreate a pretty good IRL sim?

> > > James

Dave Henri

Papy and Indycar Sims?

by Dave Henri » Tue, 14 Aug 2001 06:39:54

  See the CART Heat
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
and the CART 2K patches(f1cs2k)
should be a link at bhmotorsports.com
  Both have folks who can create/edit tracks.  We will be seeing some of
those shortly.
  And....  the ICR2 patch for N3 is comming along nicely.  they have an
online league forming with some tweeks that get IRL speeds outta N3 with F1
braking and CART tire grip.  This uses many of the Old ICR2 tracks like Mid
Ohio, Road America etc...but remember, it really is just N3 with new shapes
& tweeks,  and the ICR2 tracks are hopelessly out of date....but if thats
all we gots...I'll take it.
http://www.racesimcentral.net/~dtech/n3/ic4n3/ic4n3.htm


> Just finished watching Mid Ohio (shame about Franchitti).  It'd be great
to
> have all those road courses to race in a CART sim.  I think Olav's right
> about the IRL/Nascar comparison.  We definitely need a CART sim - the cars
> are great, its ultra competitive (no-one seems to be ***) and the
range
> of circuits is brilliant - superspeedways, tri-ovals, small ovals,street
> circuits and road circuits.  Its also posssible to overtake in them too (I
> love GP3, but its very unrealistic 'cos I can overtake other cars on the
> track instead of just in the pits!!).

> James



> > Its gotta be CART. IRL is just openwheel NASCAR, and that would also get
a
> > bit samey. I enjoy close racing that you get in nascar, but providing
> > another basically oval only sim would be a waste of their time. A CART
sim
> > would be HUUGE!

> > Luke
> > -=87=-



> > > Anyone know what Papy are up to at the moment.  I hope that they are
not
> > in
> > > the process of writing Nascar 5 'cos its all got a bit samey recently.

> > > GPL was a great departure for them and I wish they'd do some more (we
> > didn't
> > > get Nascar Legends in the UK for some reason).

> > > What I'd really like is to be able to race the latest CART or IRL
cars.
> > > CART would be more difficult for them 'cos they'd have to recreate
alot
> of
> > > new road course tracks for the sim, but surely an updated Nascar 4
> engine
> > > and a bit of physics modelling would recreate a pretty good IRL sim?

> > > James


1. New Papy SIMS!!

2. papy sims vs. other people's

3. Papy sims and NT 4.0????

4. 3d sound support in future Papy sims?

5. russian graphics in papy sims

6. Help choosing a video card for papy sims

7. news on the next papy sims

8. Papy Nascar sims and Voodoo3 dos mode

9. Stop talking about sims PAPY should make!!!!!

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