>>> Are you asking why you host races with invulnerability
>>> turned off? I keep asking myself that too.
>> Running with damage tends to cut down on the 'playstation'
>> mentality. It makes people drive a little better, knowing that if
>> they***up, they're out. With this touchy netcode I may have to
>> re-think that, though...
>> Eldred
> Hi Eldred:
> As a semi regular poster, I've read about RAS
> group races for a long time. Communities of
> serious sim racers who have grown familiar with
> each other over the years as they've honed their
> skills for each car and track.
> Is the playstation mentality a problem?
> With damage off, if you make a mistake you are
> punished by loosing position and time. Being stuck
> in the gravel consumes a lot of time. And you may
> not be responsible for the collision.
> The obvious benefit to you is that your practice
> and qualifying does reward you with the expected
> amount of track time. I would have been benefited
> from damage off, I didn't hit anything, I would
> have had you to race against.
> This is RAS, serious sim racers. I understand
> what that means, sigh me up for serious races.
> damage on or off. I'm only offering a thought as
> to getting more enjoyment out of the experience.
> And fewer hurt feelings.
> Stability assistance bothers me.
> I've never seen a post to RAS by a real F1
> driver, so we're all guessing, but the consensus at
> RAS is that real F1 cars are allowed ABS and
> traction control. I'm using Low TC.
NP, as I said, it was my mistake :)
Me too, it was a good race from my perspective (except for the incident with
Eldred, which I didn't know about until after the race.)
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Yeah - sorry bout that. I was in tune with the agreement but the sheer
degree to which everyone slowed caught me out. I thought it best to move
into the gap rather than get punted.
I slowed round T2 to let you back past. I think it was you but there were
14,297 McLarens on track ;)
I managed the astounding feat of a simple spin and then failing to grab the
clutch in time. What a *****.
I'm feeling like Eldred at the moment - can't seem to get a flow going.
There's always next week :)
cya
There is a starter button you can enable. I haven't used it with F1 but
in the Le Mans mod it's 'fun' to shut down your engine during a pitstop.
Then restart and go...
dave henrie
As it was intended! When the situation arises, I think RAS'ers are very good
at keeing their lapped car out of the way. I find it very difficult thing
to do well.
I don't remember my SA vs. non-SA times, but it most definately makes a huge
difference - perhaps the most of any of the aids. I am completely in favor
of turning off stability control, and any other aids the group wants to ban.
There was definately something quirky with the connection - my crew chief
audio messages were several laps behind what was actually happening, right
from the start. Perhaps it had something to do with all of us connecting
the server at exactly the same time? That was my only issue though - I
didn't see a single warp or lag onscreen, and all the timing screens appear
to have been correct. I didn't get the disco icon until halfway through my
victory lap (23), I just thought Eldred had pulled the plug.
-Phasor
When I went into the office this morning, the server was sitting at the login
screen. In other words, it re-booted. Not sure why, either. I can't blame
another league, because that isn't the server that got used for other races.
Argh...
Eldred
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Same thing happens in GPL and N2K3 all the time. One car doesn't see(or feel)
any contact, but the other car does gymnastics because of it...
Eldred
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Nah, I can believe that it was warp. This netcode isn't all that we'd like. I
see cars making moves that LOOK impossible, but they do it.
The time you thought you'd seen my wing fall off for no apparent reason, you
just missed me bouncing off a wall seconds earlier...
Eldred
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> Is the playstation mentality a problem?
That's the same point I tried to make in allowing 'no yellow flag' racing. The
argument against that was that if you spin and crash, you have no chance to win
the race anymore. Hmm, I thought that happened in real racing as well...<g>
When I drove without stability, I couldn't even complete ONE lap without
spinning. Seriously. Our GPL league ran a few races at Magny-Cours. Me,
being the realism junkie that I am, took to the track without any of the
driving aids. Couldn't do it. Even after turning on TC at the suggestion of
another league member, I was still 20 seconds or so off the pace. Turning on
stability let me gain about 5 or 6 seconds, but not nearly enough to keep up.
It helps, but it isn't going to make a slow driver(me) competitive with fast
drivers(everyone else).
I think that if we banned stability, most people would be spinning off every
other turn. That's not fun at ALL. I might be convinced to allow
invulnerability, but I have my doubts about banning stability.
Eldred
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Regards
> That's what I don't get. Clearly Eldred is not slow or incompetent, his GPL
> rank is proof that he is fast and competent. His rank is certainly much
> better than mine. So I am really starting to wonder, Eldred (if you're
> still listening :) if you aren't just having some fundamental problem with
> frame rate, or controller setup, or car setup in F1C. It doesn't make sense
> to me that an experienced racer like yourself would be having so much
> trouble IF everything was set up properly. What kind of frame rates are you
> getting? Have you followed the controller setups that I have posted here?
> If you look in the controller screen in game and move your controls, does
> the onscreen display move linearly? Are you using the setups that come with
> the game or someone else's? Something has got to be amiss here.
If you have any setups, or tips, I'd like to
see them.
Larry