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realistic laptimes

Gunnar Horrigm

realistic laptimes

by Gunnar Horrigm » Sat, 21 Jul 2001 19:42:21

I don't think this really matters, except for the novelty value, but
anyway:

what sims match real life laptimes the best?  

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Gunnar
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Txl

realistic laptimes

by Txl » Sat, 21 Jul 2001 21:14:02

F1RC is quite accurate, hard to get to the "real" laptimes in Nurburg and
silverstone (at least for me)



Ville V Sinkk

realistic laptimes

by Ville V Sinkk » Sat, 21 Jul 2001 23:01:28


> I don't think this really matters, except for the novelty value, but
> anyway:
> what sims match real life laptimes the best?  

I don't think you can draw such parallels. In real life there are a few
insignificant details like injuries and death, the avoidance of which may
have an impact to laptimes inversely proportional to the magnitude of the
driver's death wish. Jim Clark could have driven a 3:10 time at the old
Spa, had he been tired enough of life.

+Cinquo

Gunnar Horrigm

realistic laptimes

by Gunnar Horrigm » Sat, 21 Jul 2001 23:14:48



> > I don't think this really matters, except for the novelty value, but
> > anyway:

> > what sims match real life laptimes the best?  

> I don't think you can draw such parallels.

I agree.  I still think it's a fun topic, though. :)

I don't agree on that one, though.  you think Nikki Lauda or Mick
Doohan were afraid of crashing?

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Gunnar
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Alan Coate

realistic laptimes

by Alan Coate » Sun, 22 Jul 2001 02:07:58




> > I don't think this really matters, except for the novelty value, but
> > anyway:

> > what sims match real life laptimes the best?

> I don't think you can draw such parallels. In real life there are a few
> insignificant details like injuries and death, the avoidance of which may
> have an impact to laptimes inversely proportional to the magnitude of the
> driver's death wish. Jim Clark could have driven a 3:10 time at the old
> Spa, had he been tired enough of life.

There is also the fact that most enthusiasts have been driving GPL for nealy
3 years now. Having the tracks available at a click of a button is a bit
different from RL where ironically Jim Clark and his peers had infinitely
less 'track time' than any of us simmers. All they had was 2 x 2 hours a
year to perfect there lap times and in varying weather conditions.

For example, when I first had GPL, the ammount of laps I had to do at
Silverstone in a Lotus to get a sub 1:30 time probably would have required
the track to be re-surfaced. LOL

Alan

GraDe

realistic laptimes

by GraDe » Sun, 22 Jul 2001 02:45:23

it ust be pointed out the that supe-accruate GPL is miles off target in this
department....just thought I'd add that.


P. C. Oxfor

realistic laptimes

by P. C. Oxfor » Sun, 22 Jul 2001 02:54:22

Mom! A troll!

Who was that said; if you stood behind a simmer and bashed him with a
baseball bat each time he crashed or deducted a chunk of money from his bank
account to cover repairs lap times would rise smartly.


Ville V Sinkk

realistic laptimes

by Ville V Sinkk » Sun, 22 Jul 2001 03:17:02



>> In real life there are a few
>> insignificant details like injuries and death, the avoidance of which may
>> have an impact to laptimes inversely proportional to the magnitude of the
>> driver's death wish.
> I don't agree on that one, though.  you think Nikki Lauda or Mick
> Doohan were afraid of crashing?

No. But I do like to think that they don't WANT to crash. ;) They know
where their limits are, and don't cross them. Lauda clocked 6'58" at the
Ring, but he could have pushed further. If he had, he could have achieved
6'57", or 6'52", or a pair of wings and a halo.

+Cinquo

GraDe

realistic laptimes

by GraDe » Sun, 22 Jul 2001 05:05:17

 :)



> Mom! A troll!

> Who was that said; if you stood behind a simmer and bashed him with a
> baseball bat each time he crashed or deducted a chunk of money from his
bank
> account to cover repairs lap times would rise smartly.



> > it ust be pointed out the that supe-accruate GPL is miles off target in
> this
> > department....just thought I'd add that.

GBB

realistic laptimes

by GBB » Sun, 22 Jul 2001 09:27:42

Track                Pole                            Fast lap
Kyalami            J.Brabham 1:28.3         D.Hulme 1:29.9
Monaco            J.Brabham 1:27.6         J.Clark 1:29.5
Zandvoort        G.Hill 1:24.6                 J.Clark 1:28.08
SPA                 J.Clark 3:28.1              D.Gurney 3:31.9    *Sheep
shit
Silverstone        J.Clark 1:25.3              D.Hulme 1:27.0
The Ring           J.Clark 8:04.1              D.Gurney 8:15.1
Mosport           J.Clark 1.22.4              J.Clark 1:23.1     *Wet
Monza              J.Clark 1:28.5              J.Clark 1:28.5
Glen                 G.Hill 1:05.48              G.Hill 1:06.0
Mexico             J.Clark 1:47.56            J.Clark 1:48.13
Le Mans          G. Hill 1:36.2                G. Hill 1:36.7
Rouen 1968     J. Rindt 1:56.1              P. Rodriguez 2:11.5

I don't know why the Kyalami time is so different but the rest aren't
exactly miles off target apart from the wet mosport and the sheep shit
covered Spa. As GPL has a generic tarmac (asphalt) grip level and models
mostly tracks that now have very different layouts I don't think it does too
bad.


> it ust be pointed out the that supe-accruate GPL is miles off target in
this
> department....just thought I'd add that.



> > I don't think this really matters, except for the novelty value, but
> > anyway:

> > what sims match real life laptimes the best?

> > --
> > Gunnar
> >     #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo:
2
> >                "a language is a dialect with an army and a navy"

T S

realistic laptimes

by T S » Sun, 22 Jul 2001 09:23:53

">

If someone can make a pacth that ruins the cpu or any other vital part of
you pc
if you crash, it could have been interesting to compare laptimes :)
TS

Dan Belch

realistic laptimes

by Dan Belch » Tue, 24 Jul 2001 12:24:28

Nobody in 1967 had their '67 engines in time for Kyalami.  They were still
running the old '66 equipment that was vastly slower.

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