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by **Andi Col** » Mon, 04 Jun 2001 03:53:46

I'm sure there's someone on this group who can help, do I need a 'special'
case for a P4 motherboard? I've seen some labelled 'P4'. As far as I can
tell the P4 motherboards are just standard ATX.

Many thanks for any help given.

Andi.

by **Ford Powe** » Mon, 04 Jun 2001 06:31:39

This post may be better answered in a computer.hardware group
somewhere.....but to my knowledge the P4 requires a different power supply,
not a case. It may work your existing power supply, but might be unstable.

by **Nos** » Mon, 04 Jun 2001 08:02:19

Nope, P4 PS has extra connectors. It will fit a standard ATX case
though.

by **Jeff Hun** » Mon, 04 Jun 2001 08:41:19

A P4 in its socket 423 incarnation NEEDS a NEW P4 compatible case. The
heatsink must be mounted to the back panel that the motherboard mounts to.
This is because the Intel P4 heatsink is so huge. And on top of that
requires 2 additional power connectors. The power supply must meet the ATX
2.03 standard.

Jeff, A+
Intel Products Dealer (CCUSAonline.com)

by **Martin Eriksso** » Mon, 04 Jun 2001 09:30:14

Gawd! What's next? 10m high cooling towers?

Quote from Pentium CXI Xeon 666EHz manual:
"Do *not* disable main power for secondary cooling tower when operating in
or over speed-grade Exa-2 (533-833EHz). The resulting heat surge can then
affect the performance of lower hydro-vents which *may* cause the main
cooling tower to overheat and explode, thus effectively destroying
everything within a 2-mile radius."

"Intel takes no responsibility.. blah blah."

by **Loyd Cas** » Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:20:07

It depends on the motherboard.

The Intel D850GB requires a special set of anchor points, because Intel
wants
the heatsink screwed down into the case. The Asus, Gigabyte and MSI 850
motherboards don't require a different case. Asus supplies you with a metal
plate and *** sheet to act as an anchor point between the motherboard and
the case, but fits in a normal ATX chassis. MSI and Gigabyte use plastic
pins
to anchor the heatsink into the case.

All of them do require a P4-compatible power supply with an extra 12V,
4-pin power connector. However, these now cost no more than any ATX
power supply and fit into a standard ATX case.

Best regards,

Loyd Case

by **Jeff Hun** » Mon, 04 Jun 2001 16:06:55

Don't the plastic pins need the properly postioned and threaded holes to
anchor the heatsink? If so you need to be a machinist or get a true P4
case. The next gen P4 will not require heatsinks to be "anchored" to the
case.

Jeff

by **Rick Baumhaue** » Mon, 04 Jun 2001 22:26:46

Assuming you're the Loyd Case who used to write for CGW, I wanted to say
"thanks" for a lot of good, informative reading over the years. Still miss
your column - it's a pity so many great writers have left the PC *** mags
the last few years, but I imagine consoles are hurting everybody associated
with that end of the business.

Best regards,

Rick

by **BadSo** » Tue, 05 Jun 2001 02:33:45

> > It depends on the motherboard.

> > The Intel D850GB requires a special set of anchor points, because Intel
> > wants
> > the heatsink screwed down into the case. The Asus, Gigabyte and MSI 850
> > motherboards don't require a different case. Asus supplies you with a
> metal
> > plate and *** sheet to act as an anchor point between the motherboard
> and
> > the case, but fits in a normal ATX chassis. MSI and Gigabyte use
plastic
> > pins
> > to anchor the heatsink into the case.

> > All of them do require a P4-compatible power supply with an extra 12V,
> > 4-pin power connector. However, these now cost no more than any ATX
> > power supply and fit into a standard ATX case.

> > Best regards,

> > Loyd Case

OMFG!!!! *THE* Loyd Case??? Here?! I humbly bow before you. How's the
new job coming along? Miss your articles in CGW even though you still seem
to pop in every now and again.

Regards,

badson

by **Andi Col** » Tue, 05 Jun 2001 04:33:40

Thanks guys I have ordered an Intel MB and a Suntek Vision P4 case - we'll
see what happens when we get the P4 1.7 and Geforce 3.

Andi.

by M » Tue, 05 Jun 2001 06:28:18

>I'm sure there's someone on this group who can help, do I need a 'special'
>case for a P4 motherboard? I've seen some labelled 'P4'. As far as I can
>tell the P4 motherboards are just standard ATX.

>Many thanks for any help given.

>Andi.

Andy, I thought they fit in ATX..

When you get it running, could you advise me on -if, or not- a Texas
Instruments listing is in your system properties?

Thanks

Pasha

by M » Tue, 05 Jun 2001 06:29:58

-Liberace, live at Leeds 4 CD set attached-

>>This post may be better answered in a computer.hardware group
>>somewhere.....but to my knowledge the P4 requires a different power
supply,
>>not a case. It may work your existing power supply, but might be unstable.

>Nope, P4 PS has extra connectors. It will fit a standard ATX case
>though.

PLONK!!!!!!!

;-)

Pasha

by **Nos** » Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:23:09

>PLONK!!!!!!!

>;-)

>Pasha

PLONK- PLONK-PLONK!!!

by M » Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:49:49

>>PLONK!!!!!!!

>>;-)

>>Pasha

>PLONK- PLONK-PLONK!!!

Canada Plonk Goose?

=)

Pasha

by **Philip D'Amat** » Tue, 05 Jun 2001 09:04:20

You don't need a special case. P4 requirements would be for the
motherboard, and the ATX refers to the form factor, which encompasses items
like dimensions and shape, layout of connective components, position of
power supply, etc. You will need a motherboard that support the P4 you're
looking to get, and most these days will be in the ATX form factor.

--
Philip D'Amato

00 ZX-6R
00 S4

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