rec.autos.simulators

MSFF Wheel

Mike Cuddingto

MSFF Wheel

by Mike Cuddingto » Tue, 06 Feb 2001 10:53:30

I have begun having minor problems with my MSFF Wheel. While recently doing
some hot laps at Silverstone in GPL I started experiencing odd happenings
with my wheel.  While driving the driver would suddenly look left, or right,
or the car would shift up or down without my intervention.  I also tried
other games such as Mobil 1 Rally, and Nascar 3 same type of issues.

I also tried my MS Sidewinder FFB joystick and experienced similar odd
happenings in Microsoft's Combat Simulator.

I have uninstalled and reinstalled the Sidewinder software the products came
with (they are probably 2 years old although, the joystick gets next to no
use).

After reinstallation of software its better but still occasionally having
odd stuff go on.   Any ideas?  I didn't have this problem until recently but
I haven't changed anything PC Wise (Gateway PII 450 with 128MB Ram and 10 GB
HD, 16MB Banshee card.

Thanks

Cudd

Tim Elhaj

MSFF Wheel

by Tim Elhaj » Tue, 06 Feb 2001 18:01:55


If it were just the one controller, it would make sense that maybe the
controller was just wearing out (or something).

But since it happens with both, I would look at things the two controllers
have in common and the gameport is the first thing that comes to my mind.
What kind of gameport is it?

Larr

MSFF Wheel

by Larr » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 04:52:31

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Well, I'm so happy for you.  Enjoy!

I guess all the other complaints about WinME by other people don't mean shit
either.

-Larry



> >Are you running Windows ME?

> >If so, I had the same problem and never could fix it.  Frankly, I never
> >could fix _anything_ wrong with WinME.  Too much stuff was screwed up...

> >-Larry

> Hey Larry...

> I know you claim to be a computer professional and also claim
> you can't make WinME work.  I can make WinME work great and I'm NOT a
> computer professional.  Furthermore, my MSFF works flawlessly in
> WinME.  When are you going to give up this stupid crusade to villify
> WinME when it is obvious that the problem in the configuration is the
> person doing the configuring?

> ~daxe

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Ian

MSFF Wheel

by Ian » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 03:25:33

I'm no computer professional either. WinME is running just fine on my other
PC and works with my MSFF wheel and joystick.

--
Ian P
<email invalid due to spam>



> >Are you running Windows ME?

> >If so, I had the same problem and never could fix it.  Frankly, I never
> >could fix _anything_ wrong with WinME.  Too much stuff was screwed up...

> >-Larry

> Hey Larry...

> I know you claim to be a computer professional and also claim
> you can't make WinME work.  I can make WinME work great and I'm NOT a
> computer professional.  Furthermore, my MSFF works flawlessly in
> WinME.  When are you going to give up this stupid crusade to villify
> WinME when it is obvious that the problem in the configuration is the
> person doing the configuring?

> ~daxe

Larr

MSFF Wheel

by Larr » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 06:25:58

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Ian,

Do you have the USB version or the Gameport version?

3.02 or 4.0 software?

There were many complaints about the Gameport version, with the 3.02
software (the only one available for the Gameport version) having problems
with intermittent shifting, jerking, etc... on thier own.

This is the main reason I had to give up *** on WinME.

I also didn't like the BSODS, GPF's and other errors I got that ME is now
famous for.

In other words, it wasn't and isn't must me who had these problems.  People
complain about them to this day, and not necessarily here on RAS.

The problems with Windows ME are very real.  Some are lucky...

-Larry


> I'm no computer professional either. WinME is running just fine on my
other
> PC and works with my MSFF wheel and joystick.

> --
> Ian P
> <email invalid due to spam>




> > >Are you running Windows ME?

> > >If so, I had the same problem and never could fix it.  Frankly, I never
> > >could fix _anything_ wrong with WinME.  Too much stuff was screwed
up...

> > >-Larry

> > Hey Larry...

> > I know you claim to be a computer professional and also claim
> > you can't make WinME work.  I can make WinME work great and I'm NOT a
> > computer professional.  Furthermore, my MSFF works flawlessly in
> > WinME.  When are you going to give up this stupid crusade to villify
> > WinME when it is obvious that the problem in the configuration is the
> > person doing the configuring?

> > ~daxe

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daxe

MSFF Wheel

by daxe » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 07:25:16


>Well, I'm so happy for you.  Enjoy!

>I guess all the other complaints about WinME by other people don't mean shit
>either.

Let me give you a hypothetical, Larry.

Suppose 10 people take identical cars out in the snow with the intent
of driving from point A to point B.

Some of the people will get there quickly.
Some of the people will get there slowly.
Some of the people won't get there at all.

But you are going to blame it on the car?

~daxe

daxe

MSFF Wheel

by daxe » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 07:38:57

I know this wasn't addressed to me, but I feel the  need to respond.
I'm sure you understand that, Larry....


>There were many complaints about the Gameport version, with the 3.02
>software (the only one available for the Gameport version) having problems
>with intermittent shifting, jerking, etc... on thier own.

There may have been complaints, but I am using the gameport version of
the MSFF with the 3.02 software in WinME and it works great.  Always
has.  That doesn't mean that other people haven't had problems, but
what it DOES mean is that the gameport MSFF with version 3.02 software
on WinME DOES WORK.  If it DOESN'T WORK in your case, it ISN'T the
operating system or the software that's broken.

That's unfortunate, because WinME is far more stable than and previous
version of Win9x, in my experience.  Since it DOES WORK in my case and
in many others, the error, by nature, does not lie with the operating
system, but the configuration of the hardware running it!  If the
whole OS was broken it would cause BSODs and GPF on everyones systems,
no matter what they had for hardware, but IT DOESN'T.

I think this must be a case of preaching to the choir.  You probably
hang around in places that validate your opinion.  I have no general
impression that WinME is a troublesome OS.  I don't hear it from
people and don't have the general impression that people don't like it
and have lots of trouble with it.

People complain about lots of things and they always will.  That
doesn't make what they are complaining about defective.  How many
copies of WinME have been sold and are in use?  What percentage of
those users complain and have problems?  A loud minority doesn't
define an overall condition.

And some of us just know how to SOLVE problems instead of just
complaining about them.

~daxe

Ian

MSFF Wheel

by Ian » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 20:18:03

I'm using the Gameport wheel and USB (non FF) joystick using version
3.02.0391 of the sidewinder software.
I disabled the system restore which was causing hard disk accessing during
games and a few other things listed here on ras a few months back.
As for BSODs and GPFs, well I only get those on this PC running 98SE (they
are quite rare on this as well)
In fact the main reason I've stuck with ME on the other PC is that I use it
for my work and found it to be the most stable operating system that the
programs I need to use will run on. (Not tried Windows 2000 yet though).

--
Ian P
<email invalid due to spam>


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> Ian,

> Do you have the USB version or the Gameport version?

> 3.02 or 4.0 software?

> There were many complaints about the Gameport version, with the 3.02
> software (the only one available for the Gameport version) having problems
> with intermittent shifting, jerking, etc... on thier own.

> This is the main reason I had to give up *** on WinME.

> I also didn't like the BSODS, GPF's and other errors I got that ME is now
> famous for.

> In other words, it wasn't and isn't must me who had these problems.
People
> complain about them to this day, and not necessarily here on RAS.

> The problems with Windows ME are very real.  Some are lucky...

> -Larry


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