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by **Ron Ayto** » Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Just got home from trackside at the Melbourne GP, and i thought i would
let those of you who want to know, who won the race.

After a re-start, due to the Stewarts self destructing (both of them)
on the grid, and Michael Schumacher having to go to the back of the
grid for the re-start, due to stalling it on the grid, the Melbourne GP
finally got under way.
The McLarens easily left the rest of the field in their wake, with
Eddie Irvine (ferrari) trying to play catch up in 3rd.
The pace car was brought out again after about 20 laps or so, when
Jacques Villeneuve parked his car against the fence, due to a rear wing
letting go at speed.
Shortly after both of the McLarens dropped out with mechanical woes,
leaving the race to Eddie Irvine in the Ferrari, followed home by
Heinz-Harald Frentzen in the Jordan, followed by Ralph Schumacher in
the Williams.
Incidentally Rubens Barrichello started from the pit lane in the spare
Stewart and mad a very good show of the rest of the race, showing that
the Stewarts were right on the pace this year.
Alex Zanardi creamed himself against the fence about mid race distance
when he got a wheel into the grass and lost it, bringing out the pace
car again. He was not hurt though.

The attrition rate was unbelievable, with only about 8 cars finishing,
Michael Schumacher limped home in last place, after a couple of
un-planned pit stops, due to a puncture firstly, and then a faulty
steering wheel secondly. He clocked the fastest lap of the race in
about the 2nd last lap of the day, so the Ferrari still looked ok after
all that.
This win was the 1st for Eddie, and didn't he seemed pleased about it.
The McLaren crew looked less than pleased... <G>
Cheers,
Ron

by * Leon » Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Thanks Ron

that's very nice of you

Too bad for BAR who was supposed to win their FIRST race !!!
Also for Jacque too.
How did Damon Hill do ?

| Just got home from trackside at the Melbourne GP, and i thought i would
| let those of you who want to know, who won the race.
|
| After a re-start, due to the Stewarts self destructing (both of them)
| on the grid, and Michael Schumacher having to go to the back of the
| grid for the re-start, due to stalling it on the grid, the Melbourne GP
| finally got under way.
| The McLarens easily left the rest of the field in their wake, with
| Eddie Irvine (ferrari) trying to play catch up in 3rd.
| The pace car was brought out again after about 20 laps or so, when
| Jacques Villeneuve parked his car against the fence, due to a rear wing
| letting go at speed.
| Shortly after both of the McLarens dropped out with mechanical woes,
| leaving the race to Eddie Irvine in the Ferrari, followed home by
| Heinz-Harald Frentzen in the Jordan, followed by Ralph Schumacher in
| the Williams.
| Incidentally Rubens Barrichello started from the pit lane in the spare
| Stewart and mad a very good show of the rest of the race, showing that
| the Stewarts were right on the pace this year.
| Alex Zanardi creamed himself against the fence about mid race distance
| when he got a wheel into the grass and lost it, bringing out the pace
| car again. He was not hurt though.
|
| The attrition rate was unbelievable, with only about 8 cars finishing,
| Michael Schumacher limped home in last place, after a couple of
| un-planned pit stops, due to a puncture firstly, and then a faulty
| steering wheel secondly. He clocked the fastest lap of the race in
| about the 2nd last lap of the day, so the Ferrari still looked ok after
| all that.
| This win was the 1st for Eddie, and didn't he seemed pleased about it.
| The McLaren crew looked less than pleased... <G>
| Cheers,
| Ron
|

by **Andy** » Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:00:00

If your gonna post spoilers then at least space it so that you have to
scroll down to the results.

by **Mark C Dod** » Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Damon got punted at the first corner. Pity cuase I reckon he was faster than Irvine.

> Thanks Ron

> that's very nice of you

> Too bad for BAR who was supposed to win their FIRST race !!!
> Also for Jacque too.
> How did Damon Hill do ?

> | Just got home from trackside at the Melbourne GP, and i thought i would
> | let those of you who want to know, who won the race.
> |
> | After a re-start, due to the Stewarts self destructing (both of them)
> | on the grid, and Michael Schumacher having to go to the back of the
> | grid for the re-start, due to stalling it on the grid, the Melbourne GP
> | finally got under way.
> | The McLarens easily left the rest of the field in their wake, with
> | Eddie Irvine (ferrari) trying to play catch up in 3rd.
> | The pace car was brought out again after about 20 laps or so, when
> | Jacques Villeneuve parked his car against the fence, due to a rear wing
> | letting go at speed.
> | Shortly after both of the McLarens dropped out with mechanical woes,
> | leaving the race to Eddie Irvine in the Ferrari, followed home by
> | Heinz-Harald Frentzen in the Jordan, followed by Ralph Schumacher in
> | the Williams.
> | Incidentally Rubens Barrichello started from the pit lane in the spare
> | Stewart and mad a very good show of the rest of the race, showing that
> | the Stewarts were right on the pace this year.
> | Alex Zanardi creamed himself against the fence about mid race distance
> | when he got a wheel into the grass and lost it, bringing out the pace
> | car again. He was not hurt though.
> |
> | The attrition rate was unbelievable, with only about 8 cars finishing,
> | Michael Schumacher limped home in last place, after a couple of
> | un-planned pit stops, due to a puncture firstly, and then a faulty
> | steering wheel secondly. He clocked the fastest lap of the race in
> | about the 2nd last lap of the day, so the Ferrari still looked ok after
> | all that.
> | This win was the 1st for Eddie, and didn't he seemed pleased about it.
> | The McLaren crew looked less than pleased... <G>
> | Cheers,
> | Ron
> |

by **Mark C Dod** » Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Alex Zanardi was a big dissapointment!

> Just got home from trackside at the Melbourne GP, and i thought i would
> let those of you who want to know, who won the race.

> After a re-start, due to the Stewarts self destructing (both of them)
> on the grid, and Michael Schumacher having to go to the back of the
> grid for the re-start, due to stalling it on the grid, the Melbourne GP
> finally got under way.
> The McLarens easily left the rest of the field in their wake, with
> Eddie Irvine (ferrari) trying to play catch up in 3rd.
> The pace car was brought out again after about 20 laps or so, when
> Jacques Villeneuve parked his car against the fence, due to a rear wing
> letting go at speed.
> Shortly after both of the McLarens dropped out with mechanical woes,
> leaving the race to Eddie Irvine in the Ferrari, followed home by
> Heinz-Harald Frentzen in the Jordan, followed by Ralph Schumacher in
> the Williams.
> Incidentally Rubens Barrichello started from the pit lane in the spare
> Stewart and mad a very good show of the rest of the race, showing that
> the Stewarts were right on the pace this year.
> Alex Zanardi creamed himself against the fence about mid race distance
> when he got a wheel into the grass and lost it, bringing out the pace
> car again. He was not hurt though.

> The attrition rate was unbelievable, with only about 8 cars finishing,
> Michael Schumacher limped home in last place, after a couple of
> un-planned pit stops, due to a puncture firstly, and then a faulty
> steering wheel secondly. He clocked the fastest lap of the race in
> about the 2nd last lap of the day, so the Ferrari still looked ok after
> all that.
> This win was the 1st for Eddie, and didn't he seemed pleased about it.
> The McLaren crew looked less than pleased... <G>
> Cheers,
> Ron

by **Ron Ayto** » Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:00:00

If you didn't want to know the results, then you should not have read
the post in the first place.
Note, i did put the word, "spoiler", in the heading, that is all that
is needed.
I posted the article on the Melbourne GP because some people appreciate
knowing who come where...
I could understand your complaint if i didn't include the,"spoiler" ,
in the heading, but i did, so it is not my fault if you read it.
Did you get out of bed the wrong way or something. ? :-)
Cheers,
Ron

by **Ron Ayto** » Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Yeah i agree with you there Mark, and thanks for giving the info to
Leong.
It would have been interesting to see how Damon would have went if he
hadn't of been punted off the track.
I class Damon Hill as a much better driver than Heinz-Harald Frentzen,
so i think it would have been a good battle with him and Eddie.
Like yourself, i was dissapointed in the showing that Alex put in.
I suppose we have to take into account that it was his first race back
in F1 for a few years though, and we all know what a fighter Alex is,
so i think he will improve over the coming season.
One thing you gotta hand to Alex is that he actually made Frank
Williams smile. How often have you seen that. ?? <G>
I wish the BAR team would stick to one color scheme, it certainly is
different like it is. I prefer the red/white side..
Cheers,
Ron

by **Graeme Nas** » Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:00:00

If it says spoiler, don't read it :-) !

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by **Kevin McFerri** » Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:00:00

I'm making it a point not to read this message yet, but I wanted to
thank you for putting the word spoiler in the title since the race won't be
broadcast here in Indianapolis for another 2 hours. I'm sure that I'm not
he only tape-delay victim here, and on their behalf, I thank you.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled article...

>Just got home from trackside at the Melbourne GP, and i thought i would
>let those of you who want to know, who won the race.

>After a re-start, due to the Stewarts self destructing (both of them)
>on the grid, and Michael Schumacher having to go to the back of the
>grid for the re-start, due to stalling it on the grid, the Melbourne GP
>finally got under way.
>The McLarens easily left the rest of the field in their wake, with
>Eddie Irvine (ferrari) trying to play catch up in 3rd.
>The pace car was brought out again after about 20 laps or so, when
>Jacques Villeneuve parked his car against the fence, due to a rear wing
>letting go at speed.
>Shortly after both of the McLarens dropped out with mechanical woes,
>leaving the race to Eddie Irvine in the Ferrari, followed home by
>Heinz-Harald Frentzen in the Jordan, followed by Ralph Schumacher in
>the Williams.
>Incidentally Rubens Barrichello started from the pit lane in the spare
>Stewart and mad a very good show of the rest of the race, showing that
>the Stewarts were right on the pace this year.
>Alex Zanardi creamed himself against the fence about mid race distance
>when he got a wheel into the grass and lost it, bringing out the pace
>car again. He was not hurt though.

>The attrition rate was unbelievable, with only about 8 cars finishing,
>Michael Schumacher limped home in last place, after a couple of
>un-planned pit stops, due to a puncture firstly, and then a faulty
>steering wheel secondly. He clocked the fastest lap of the race in
>about the 2nd last lap of the day, so the Ferrari still looked ok after
>all that.
>This win was the 1st for Eddie, and didn't he seemed pleased about it.
> The McLaren crew looked less than pleased... <G>
>Cheers,
>Ron

by **Daisy Du** » Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Hey now , come on! The first GP of any season is always a ***shoot.
The GP in Oz was one of the strangest (but entertaining) I've seen. It
was great to see the new faces on the podium but, it is in no way
indicative of how the rest of the season will play out. Alex bleeds
black and white so I wouldn't give up on him just yet.

by **David Mast** » Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:00:00

>If your gonna post spoilers then at least space it so that you have to
>scroll down to the results.

Geez, you just can't please some people.

At the risk (hell, certainty) of starting a tired debate...

8 cars finish, winner wins due to the fastest cars not surviving. How much
passing was done outside of that due to pitting and attrition? The usual
near-zip? Well, I bet Schumi's run from last (after stall) to about 10th made
for interesting watching. Otherwise, F1 is more about technology, politics,
personalities and (I suppose if one is really keen enough) watching very
precision drivers, than it is about watching exciting *racing*. I'm still
sometimes amazed at the popularity of this. This from someone who, yes,
watches the races (when available!).

Followups to alt.my.racing.is.better.than.yours ? :-)

by **Paul Jone** » Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:00:00

> 8 cars finish, winner wins due to the fastest cars not surviving. How much
> passing was done outside of that due to pitting and attrition? The usual
> near-zip? Well, I bet Schumi's run from last (after stall) to about 10th made
> for interesting watching. Otherwise, F1 is more about technology, politics,
> personalities and (I suppose if one is really keen enough) watching very
> precision drivers, than it is about watching exciting *racing*. I'm still
> sometimes amazed at the popularity of this. This from someone who, yes,
> watches the races (when available!).

Okay, so Ralf S, took HH at turn 2 and HH took him straight back. Fisicella nearly got Irvine.
6th to 9th changed so many time I can remember. Michael S overtook or was overtaken by just
about everyone on the track at one time or another - just to mention a few. Baricello did
nearly the same. The McLaren's were obviously way out on their own but they got out of the
race soon enough so that we could have a good race between evenly matched cars. 6 different
constructors in the 6 points places. The winner crossed the line 2 seconds ahead of 2nd place
with a similar gap to 3rd in 57 laps - none of the top 3 cars having had any mechanical
failures - in fact of the top 6 grid positions only the 2 McLaren's suffered serious failures
- unless you count M. Shumacher's escapades - strange to see him make so many mistakes. The
high attrition rate was as much to do with driver error as mechanical failures.
Were you watching the same race as me?
Cheers,
Paul

by **Remco Moe** » Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Hi Paul,

>- unless you count M. Shumacher's escapades - strange to see him make so many mistakes.

I wouldn't call a faulty steering wheel a mistake. I do wonder how he
did manage to bent his front wing and get a flat tire, though. I did
see his 2 wheel on the grass trip, but I don't think that was the
reason of formentioned problems. Any clue?

Remco

by **Michael E. Carve** » Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:00:00

% Damon got punted at the first corner. Pity cuase I reckon he was faster than Irvine.

If I recall correctly the puntee claimed he hadn't really touched Hill,
it was just a bad warp or clock-smash. Therefore Damon shouldn't be too
upset.

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by **Kevin McFerri** » Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Schumaker was off-track, by a couple wheels or so, several times during
the race. I'd attribute it to frustration at starting on the tail matched
with overdriving the car to try to get back to the front...

>Hi Paul,

>>- unless you count M. Shumacher's escapades - strange to see him make so
many mistakes.

>I wouldn't call a faulty steering wheel a mistake. I do wonder how he
>did manage to bent his front wing and get a flat tire, though. I did
>see his 2 wheel on the grass trip, but I don't think that was the
>reason of formentioned problems. Any clue?

>Remco

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