rec.autos.simulators

> Also do the cars has inertia.
> IN GPL and even CPR if you go down the straight you can get the car to
> pendulem with a flew flicks of the wheel and spin out,in gp2 you couldnt
it
> just stuck to the tarmac.


> > As i posted earlier on I went to the melbourne gp today with the
intention
> > of giving gp3 a whack. I was later than I hope and the crowd was pretty
> big
> > already. There were 2 hyperstimulators facing big screen tvs.
> Unfortunately
> > the tv's and cocpits were pretty well worn, one wheel suffereing from
big
> > spikes. And the big tvs were dark and had horrible horizontal lines.

> > The graphics were nothing different from the gamestar video. In fact
what
> I
> > saw of the demo explained a lot about the screen shots going around the
> net
> > with 2 prost cars damon in a jordan and a stewart. The game crashed a
> number
> > of times and when starting the spalsh screen said:
> > "Gp3 Demo January 2000. HARDWARE ACCELERATED."
> > There were no menus or options you were simply put on the starting grid
in
> a
> > prost with the 3 other cars at monaco. So those screens from the german
> site
> > were definately hardware accelerated.
> > Some of the textures werent filtered if you crashed into a wall you
could
> > see no filtering on the textures. So that was the end of the argument of
> > software or hardware shots.

> > Overall the graphics were smooth, there was some stutter in parts
though.
> > Tv's made it hard to judge sharpness, I was told by the marketing guy
from
> > the gamestar video that it was in a 780x??? res on pIII500's with G800
> video
> > cards. Whatever they are?

> > The sound was gp2's as said in the pcgamer preview new samples are ready
> to
> > go in.

> > Gameplay was a lot like gp2. I felt familiar with the handelling pretty
> > quick. Unfortunately the lovely half *** assistants werent too sure
what
> > to do when i asked for steering, gear, and brake help to be switched off
> but
> > I eventually got to drive that way. The cars slide more and take a bit
> > longer to stop, I think the sliding has been improved a lot on gp2 and
is
> > less drastic. Funny enough I didnt once look like loosing the car while
> > turning in under braking. GP2 was real tough in this area and I was
quite
> > surprised at how nobody lost control going into a corner. Touching the
> wall
> > has more drastic effects and this is where most people spun including
> > myself. Overall I have to say it felt like gp2 with lots of little
> > improvements, besides gp2 didnt need any drastic measures in gameplay
> > department IMHO.

> > I left my 4 go's of this demo looking forward even more so to the
unlikely
> > release date. I only wish I had all runs with steering help off. It is
now
> > switchable by F8 from in game and I done the best time of the day
> (1:19:**)
> > with it off and could get a good fun run in. With steering help on I
wasnt
> > so happy and felt like it was pulling me onto the line. Hard to tell
> without
> > trying keyboard but I think steering help has been changed a fair bit.

> > Oh well theres more I could say but, if you want to know ask me?
> > Berno.

> Yes this has definately changed. Where I was talking about the
difficulties
> of turning in under brakes in gp2 and the sudden unrecoverable spins. Gp3
> seems to have more layers to its sliding as opposed to gp2 where I
sometimes
> felt as though the car was put in lost grip mode or grip mode. You can do
> power slides, not sure of the full extent though as i had throttle help on
> but I could definately feel it under brakes. At lowes hairpin  i stopped a
> bit late stayed on the brakes then flicked on the power which made the
back
> end hang out, but a touch of opposite lock saved it.

> Not sure about the inertia as I didnt try what you said. I saw someone
have
> a go with all help off and they done a few spins under acceleration but
they
> didnt swerve. I will be going back to the gp tomorrow and the 2 days after
> so I will get the lovely ladies to turn it all off and swerve down the
> straight to see what happens. Will post about it.

> Berno

> > Yeah man ,i was wondering what you thought of the driving model in gp3
> > Im gp2 if you drove with opposite lock help off,the car would go sidways
> for
> > a second and the just spin out,it was a like an automated spin that you
> > could never get back,unlike in GPL where the car can go extremely
sideways
> > and u can still get it back.I read somewhere that when the gp2 car got a
> > little sideways the physics model stopped calculating the inertia and
just
> > sent the car into a canned spin so u could never do power slides or get
> the
> > car back with a flick of the wrists,so i was wondering if you could
> comment
> > on that.

> > Also do the cars has inertia.
> > IN GPL and even CPR if you go down the straight you can get the car to
> > pendulem with a flew flicks of the wheel and spin out,in gp2 you couldnt
> it
> > just stuck to the tarmac.


> > > As i posted earlier on I went to the melbourne gp today with the
> intention
> > > of giving gp3 a whack. I was later than I hope and the crowd was
pretty
> > big
> > > already. There were 2 hyperstimulators facing big screen tvs.
> > Unfortunately
> > > the tv's and cocpits were pretty well worn, one wheel suffereing from
> big
> > > spikes. And the big tvs were dark and had horrible horizontal lines.

> > > The graphics were nothing different from the gamestar video. In fact
> what
> > I
> > > saw of the demo explained a lot about the screen shots going around
the
> > net
> > > with 2 prost cars damon in a jordan and a stewart. The game crashed a
> > number
> > > of times and when starting the spalsh screen said:
> > > "Gp3 Demo January 2000. HARDWARE ACCELERATED."
> > > There were no menus or options you were simply put on the starting
grid
> in
> > a
> > > prost with the 3 other cars at monaco. So those screens from the
german
> > site
> > > were definately hardware accelerated.
> > > Some of the textures werent filtered if you crashed into a wall you
> could
> > > see no filtering on the textures. So that was the end of the argument
of
> > > software or hardware shots.

> > > Overall the graphics were smooth, there was some stutter in parts
> though.
> > > Tv's made it hard to judge sharpness, I was told by the marketing guy
> from
> > > the gamestar video that it was in a 780x??? res on pIII500's with G800
> > video
> > > cards. Whatever they are?

> > > The sound was gp2's as said in the pcgamer preview new samples are
ready
> > to
> > > go in.

> > > Gameplay was a lot like gp2. I felt familiar with the handelling
pretty
> > > quick. Unfortunately the lovely half *** assistants werent too sure
> what
> > > to do when i asked for steering, gear, and brake help to be switched
off
> > but
> > > I eventually got to drive that way. The cars slide more and take a bit
> > > longer to stop, I think the sliding has been improved a lot on gp2 and
> is
> > > less drastic. Funny enough I didnt once look like loosing the car
while
> > > turning in under braking. GP2 was real tough in this area and I was
> quite
> > > surprised at how nobody lost control going into a corner. Touching the
> > wall
> > > has more drastic effects and this is where most people spun including
> > > myself. Overall I have to say it felt like gp2 with lots of little
> > > improvements, besides gp2 didnt need any drastic measures in gameplay
> > > department IMHO.

> > > I left my 4 go's of this demo looking forward even more so to the
> unlikely
> > > release date. I only wish I had all runs with steering help off. It is
> now
> > > switchable by F8 from in game and I done the best time of the day
> > (1:19:**)
> > > with it off and could get a good fun run in. With steering help on I
> wasnt
> > > so happy and felt like it was pulling me onto the line. Hard to tell
> > without
> > > trying keyboard but I think steering help has been changed a fair bit.

> > > Oh well theres more I could say but, if you want to know ask me?
> > > Berno.