> Doug,
> I can't believe that you can still be taking this unsupported
position.
> So for the last time let me state my position as clearly as possible.
> 1- WSC was and still is vaporware. There is no sim nor playable demo.
> 2- The West Bros decided to sign a legal binding contract with Empire to
> produce WSC within a speficied period of time. They failed to do that, and
> finally Empire opted to terminate both of them. At this point there isn't
> any reason why they can't explain their position of the Empire affair. Yet
> there are those on RAS that still believe that the Wests just decided to
> leave Empire because of constraints on what they wanted to do within WSC.
No
> one but the Wests and Empire know how much money was paid to the Wests to
> complete this project, but it's clear that Empire came out the big looser.
> What's more, the West Bros most likely were the ones that approached
Empire,
> not the other way around.
> 3- We were promised a workable demo after E3 2001. No demo was released.
E3
> 2002 came and went without WSC, a workable demo, or the West bros being at
> the Empire booth.
> 4- As for those fellow racers on VROC that actually drove a demo of WSC,
> from what I read they were impressed with the graphics of both the cars
and
> the track. But the car didn't have a completed physics engine. I don't
> believe that they could actually steer the car. Not one of them ever wrote
a
> review for all us to read and evailuate. Why, because the West Bros most
> likely asked them not to.
> 5-So, after more then two years we dedicated simmers have nothing to show
> for our faith or dedication to the Wests and WSC but egg on our virtual
> faces. Now we're asked to go blindly down the same path again.
> 6-I see no rational reason to change my position of scepticism, which is
not
> a denial that the West Bros are working on a new sim based on WSC, rather
> that I doubt, based on the above that we will see workable demo, let alone
a
> completed core sim by the end of the year, or worse, ever.
> Joel
> "If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a
corner
> till the time you brake for the next turn
> , then you have enough horsepower."
> Mark Donohue
> > Why do so many people continue to ridicule the whole concept of RL and
> > regard it as a hoax?
> > What - exactly - would Chris and Tony gain from it?
> > Why would people making hoax go to the extent of making a fully working
> > graphics and sound engine that's been driven by people I've spoken to on
> > VROC
> > Why would they make a very nice website detailing the new plans now
> they've
> > escaped from Empire if it was all about nothing
> > What possible reason would they have to go to goodwood and talk to
people
> > about it.
> > Why would they put every penny they have into this project and despite
> > ending up stuck with a ***publisher - have the audacity and witherall
to
> > start again to escape it?
> > All the evidence shows that they are making a title. I wouldnt be
wasting
> my
> > time on future 3rd party addons for RL unless I KNEW it was going to
come
> > out.
> > So - what would the point be in a hoax - and taking into consideration
> that
> > it isnt ( fact ) - what's the point in ridiculing and troll posting
about
> > it.
> > I'm talking about people like
> > Nigel Nichols "West Bros. Papy wannabe's"
> > Alan Bernardo, "this is an elaborate hoax"
> > Willem "i doubt anything they programm will ever see the light of day"
> > Ben Daniels "This is the best 12th July joke ever"
> > Joel Wilstein "Now where is your proof"
> > Jon T "Promises , Promises.........."
> > And of course - one could mention RedTed - but why bother.
> > Do you guys REALLY believe this all to be a hoax? That someone would do
> all
> > this just for a laugh? I mean - WTF? I really dont understand it - so -
> > please explain why you refuse to believe RL is being made and will be
> > release. OR - is it just a joke - if so - dont giveup the day job for
> > stand-up comedy
> > Doug
