rec.autos.simulators

Last night I joined a GP-Race in Spa hosted by Rick Sweeney and there were
NO incidents on the start with 20 drivers.....incredible......why can't
people discipline themselves and try to equalize this "world-record"?
Instead, mostly ppl try to get from last to first in half a
lap......complete nonsense, just causes pileups and frustration ;-((. To
cool ppl down, I myself only host *Pro*-Races so if you hit
something,.....bye....there should be a lot more of that......

Next thing is we wanna have fun while racing, right? My driving-policy is,
when in the lead and see no1 behind me, I wait (drive slowly in *safe*
places, don't stop, you get kicked if idle too long) for others to catch up
and race them again....who cares if I win a race (except championship-races
of course).....Same applies, if you're in 6th, guy behind you spins and
recovers, why not wait for him?.....I want competition, if I wanna hotlap I
can do that alone offline......

Regarding last thought, maybe we all could agree on some fixed
short-message-keys for the in-car-chat (I for myself can't type and drive at
the same time, I know there are some of you out there who can
*fallingonmykneesandworship*), for example "W"= I am waiting, "?"=How many
drivers left in the race, "G"=gaps between drivers, "!"= watch out, I'm
spinning and so on.....Answers should be given by ppl watching the
race.....These keys then should be posted where everyone can see them while
in VROC-Netscape as well as in Spy-Boy.

Next issue is that ppl join races ignoring bad ping-showings in SpyBoy or
VROC-Netscape, getting disco'd, trying again, blocking ppl with good con's
from joining, causing warping, and later complaining, what a shitty host
Mr.xyz is....;-((.....Guys'n'Gals, look at the pings *before* joining!!

K, cake is being served, grandparents (of my kiddies!) arrived (bore..),
maybe some more later......

Hope to see some nice clean racing soon!
cya
Markus

The Spy Boy chat (great utility BTW) after the race reveiled that the
other drivers had trouble to  concentrate for Eau Rouge, and indeed,
most drivers almost crashed there. This was a startcrash I don't mind
to see.

Too bad I disco'd, I love to see that replay again.

Remco

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Nothing is going to change unfortunately. Hate to sound so negative but I
can go back two years ago and remember the same, exact, issues (long list).
Doesn't matter which game, the age of the drivers, etc. The same, exact
requests were made to correct them, and...........nothing changes.

David G Fisher

"That's okay folks--it's the trying that counts."

--_Road Kill Soup for the Soul_

Justice has to be done! Jack was 5th. At the moment of this typing I
am punished by the need of crossing a container with broken glass on
my bare knees. Ouch.

Remco

I just went out of a Spa race too. It was a PRO race, so no shift-r
allowed (I think that can be very bad in standard VROC races).

I started last because I arrived at the end of the session, and at the
start, I decided to go at about 2mph since nobody was behind me. I
thought this would help me avoid any crashes.

And then another car came flying like a NATO torpedo into my car and I
was warped into a big crash, out of the race.

Doh.

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Graeme Nash

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It was a pretty spectacular ride though! I discovered that with the wheels
pared away the Lotus' clean aerodynamic lines support a nice stable
trajectory in sub-orbital flight. I now pride myself in being the world
record holder for assisted horizontal flight in a Lotus, with an amazing
distance of 1232 feet (376 m). If you want to make a run at my record,
remember that's flight distance only, run-up and post-flight taxiing are not
included.

I just knew there was *some* way for me to get in the record books!

Jack Rambo

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David G Fisher schrieb in Nachricht

Hey David!
That's the wrong attitude. If you stick your head in the sand, of course you
won't change anything. The point is to mention it over and over and over
again until people can't hear it anymore. As daily hundreds or whatever ppl
join the Internet, join GPL-Online-Races, you gotta tell them, too, so:
Repeat the same boring theme again until the last day of life of the
game.......
Maybe we should get a chan-bot to do this work for us........
cya and don't give up!
Markus

Hi Graeme!
I believe things like that wouldn't occur if people would read my last
thought......
cya
Markus

   Nice post. Without question,the number 1 complaint besides disconnects,is
accidents that ruin your race at the start.  What is the sense of qualifying
for 15-30 and getting a a decent starting position,only to be knocked out
before the the 1st turn,then rejoining at the rear of the field. How many
times has someone said take it easy on the start,stay inline,etc,and
everyone agrees. Then crash city. Sure,warps,popping, contribute to it,but
more often then not,it's just bad driving. Brake early on the 1st lap. Cold
tires,and more importantly,not everyone brakes at the same point.

    I've had races where after the flag more than half of the cars infront
of me just vanish. I try to maintain my line until they reappear. Most of
the time it works,unfortunately,some of the time,it doesn't.

    And your idea for single letters for short chat is great. Especially
since there is so little information you can get from your pit board,and
it's a full lap behind.

Joel Willstein