PS. The World Superbikes have been racing at Kyalami this weekend just gone,
saw some of the racing on Eurosport and that track looks very different from
how it did in '67!
> >I read the "What is the deal with Monaco and going fast?" thread with
great
> >interest, and was hoping some of you could help me out in a similar way,
> >but
> >this time at Kyalami. I just ran a 12-lap race against the AI there, and
I
> >managed to clock 1.22.xx on five of those laps, the other seven laps
being
> >slower. I've only once managed a 1.21.xx and the Papy time of 1.20.86
> >seems
> >very distant....
> >In the hope of finding out where I can save some time, I snipped out the
> >replay of my best lap and merged it with the Papy benchmark using GPL
> >SpyGirl. I'm fine up until the very slow lefthander "Clubhouse Bend" but
> >then things go to pot through Clubhouse, the Esses and the Hairpin. I
take
> >all of these bends in second gear.
> >Any magical go-faster advice would be very much appreciated! I'm trying
> >both
> >the Ferrari and the Lotus with Alison Hine's setups, although I've played
> >with the gearing a bit as I think she's quicker than me :0)
> Setup - haven't got a clue. I used one of the hotshoe setups and can't
> recall which one.
> Ist corner (don't know name) - this corner is a gradually reducing
> radius so you will need to be gradually bleeding off some speed the
> further into the corner you go. I recall checking my lines through here
> and it seems that the wider line - before turn in - appears to give
> better speed through the corner. Exiting is just a case of getting as
> much power down without spinning the rear wheels or oversteering the
> car. You may need slight opposite lock here.
> Barbeque - not sure about trail braking (never had that privilege), so I
> would generally work on braking hard in a straight line and then turning
> in. A strong potential when doing this to spin during turn in or clip
> the inside curb. You will need to work plenty on guaging the best time
> to turn and the amount of turn in. To me this is the 2nd hardest corner
> on this track. I've spun here loads of times. Exit is very much the
> same as for the first corner, though it is slightly off camber I believe
> and so it is easy to run too wide and onto the rough stuff if you're not
> careful.
> Jusket Sweep - get as wide as you can deal with (2 wheels on the grass
> even) and then tap the brakes and throw that car towards the apex trying
> not to clip the inside. Get the power down as early as possible, but
> remember, too much power will have you sliding off to the right onto the
> grass. If this happens then ease off the gas and straighten the car
> out. As long as you get the front and back right-side wheels both on
> the grass together then you should get away with it. Obviously it's
> better to avoid this if at all possible though.
> Sunset - I personally prefer to take a line a car width inside the
> darker driving line when approaching this corner and then aim at the
> inside of the corner whilst braking. It's a long corner so, even after
> the major braking has been done pre-corner, it is not necessary to do
> all of it and you can bleed off some speed as you are in the corner
> itself. Exiting, I am normally in 2nd, but sometimes prefer to snatch
> an early 3rd in order to avoid wheelspin. Also, I'm sure that this is
> one corner where getting the power down has to be done at the right
> moment. You have to learn when the car feels more like it's going to
> keep a good inside line when you apply the power, otherwise I've found
> myself having to back off for fear of drifting too wide. Hard to
> explain this but I'll give it a shot. When going through longer corners
> the car is very rarely just set solid. If you look at the nose you can
> generally see some oscillation from left to right and back again as the
> front springs compress and uncompress back and forth. What I discovered
> was that, at Sunset for instance, if I waited for the left front to be
> uncompressing whilst the right front was compressing - almost as if the
> car was being rolled to the inside of the corner - and I then got the
> power down at this precise moment, then the car was more likely to take
> a line that steered/pulled towards the inside of the corner instead of
> pushing away from the corner. As a result I could get more power out of
> the corner because I wasn't having to back off as much. Has anyone else
> noticed this?
> Clubhouse - braking hard from 4th to first and take as wide a line when
> approaching the corner as possible. Find a braking point that allows
> you to brake real hard, but not too late so that you overshoot. You
> really want to be attacking this corner as much as you can confidently
> do so. If you feel the back end starting to come around then let off
> the brake just to balance the car again, at which point you should be
> into the corner anyway and if done quickly enough you won't be carrying
> much more speed than you would normally, so you can still get the nose
> into the corner without too much problem. It is not a major deal to
> avoid the back end stepping out completely. In fact this can help get
> the car around the corner quicker than normal, though generally it's
> just a case of getting as good a speed through here whilst hugging the
> inside of the corner and not drifting wide. Exiting, you really have to
> wait, wait, wait - much longer that you would imagine - before you can
> hit the gas. Also slight opposite lock to avoid any oversteer.
> Esses (if that's what they're called) - Hardest part for me to get
> right. The car really wants to turn in too much here. As a result,
> I've spun way too many times. It's a real 'balancing' act. I brake in
> a straight line and then turn in once all braking's done. I feel that I
> should be going quicker here, but if I do that then I'm going too wide
> for the second part so it's best to keep to the inside. Although there
> appears to be a small section of straight before the right-hand part
> it's almost not worth trying to accelerate any as it'll only push the
> car wide. Get the nose into the corner early and then you should be
> able to accelerate out early - and I mean full throttle - if you're not
> carrying too much speed at the beginning of the corner and drifting
> wide.
> Leeukop - Attack, attack, attack. Find a good braking point (you don't
> want to overshoot) and then brake hard followed by throwing the car into
> the corner (almost literally) and bleeding off some more speed. If
> you're speed's good then the only thing you'll have to worry about is
> oversteer. If things look like they're getting outta shape then a quick
> turn of the front wheels towards the corner should settle them down
> again. Avoid drifting wide at all costs. You'll lose too much time.
> Power out in 2nd or 3rd - whichever you're most comfortable with - and
> be aware of oversteer here aswell. Also, the car should be right on the
> outside of the track by the time you've hit the straight otherwise
> you're either turning too much or not accelerating early or hard enough.
> Ok then, what's my best here? Just for info's sake of course and to
> show that I have at sometime had a decent understanding of how to go
> fast. :) 1:19.01.
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> Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington)
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> more correct than another's, because each is
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