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Nascar 2002 Demo

Luke Philli

Nascar 2002 Demo

by Luke Philli » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 15:46:55

They oviously buy them more than once, because sports games are often
top sellers, and there cant be mainly new people buying those games
every year. Like what was posted before, i think that fixes etc should
be updated with a patch, but new features like, hi-res cars, training
mode, new sound, new tracks, improved handling, and updated season
aswell as generally updated graphics hasto justify a new release.

Dr87

Uncle Feste

Nascar 2002 Demo

by Uncle Feste » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 22:40:34


> Or maybee simracers are a particually ***y bunch who want everything
> for nothing and wont even mildy accept anything but perfection.

Or maybe there's a sucker born every minute, but the simracing community
has far less of them in their midst.

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Eldre

Nascar 2002 Demo

by Eldre » Fri, 08 Feb 2002 02:32:07



>> I'll ignore the obvious flamebait...
>> No, I'm saying the people who buy the sports games don't buy the yearly
>> 'updates', for lack of a better term.  I mean, the rules in footbal,
>baseball,
>> and hockey stay the same year after year.  Once you buy ONE, there's no
>need to
>> get anymore.  The NEW sales may be coming from people who don't own ANY...

>They oviously buy them more than once, because sports games are often
>top sellers, and there cant be mainly new people buying those games
>every year. Like what was posted before, i think that fixes etc should
>be updated with a patch, but new features like, hi-res cars, training
>mode, new sound, new tracks, improved handling, and updated season
>aswell as generally updated graphics hasto justify a new release.

Why CAN'T there be mostly new people buying sports games every year?  How many
new people discover computers every year, or how many people who already own
computers finally get a beefy enough system to run the new games?  Anybody know
sales figures for say, the EA baseball game(MLB 2002?)?
I'm not really saying that people DON'T buy the same games year after year, but
I haven't seen any proof that they DO.

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Mike Kin

Nascar 2002 Demo

by Mike Kin » Fri, 08 Feb 2002 10:21:39




snip, snip

> Eldred

FWIW, son gets the 'yearly updates' to FIFA every year. He want's them, and  
I'm the sap that keeps buying them for him. This is for a PS, so I don't
know if the same applies for PC. Like I said here before, for the amount of
entertainment hours/dollar I can't beat Papy. If it costs me $40-$50+, or
whatever the amount is, per year to get 100's, if not 1000's of hours of
entertainment, I'm all for it. A movie and dinner costs that much, and if
my wife picks the movie I'll probably sleep through it anyway!
JM

Nascar 2002 Demo

by JM » Sat, 09 Feb 2002 03:56:45


20 pounds sterling in the UK, or about $30 US, which is also what N4 cost
on release.  I'll be buying it, N2002 is not easier than N4 to drive, it's
certainly nothing like the "arcade" N4 mode people have claimed.
Great feeling in the handling, excellent engine sounds and hi-res car
paints.  I'll be buying it if it hits the shelves here.

cheers
John

JM

Nascar 2002 Demo

by JM » Sat, 09 Feb 2002 04:02:48


In our german lessons, we were told it's "fingerpincherkopfchopper"
Is that not right?  ?:o/

cheers
John

Ronald Stoeh

Nascar 2002 Demo

by Ronald Stoeh » Sat, 09 Feb 2002 07:26:06



> >> both sides of the pond would understand.
> >> shoulda just kept it simple and said : that space between the
> >> windshield and the front bumper.
> >> :)
> >> dave henrie

> > Wanna be tri-lingual? Add "Motorhaube"... ;)

> In our german lessons, we were told it's "fingerpincherkopfchopper"
> Is that not right?  ?:o/

No, that's just the word used by mechanics in their first year
of training...

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Eldre

Nascar 2002 Demo

by Eldre » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 07:33:57






>snip, snip

>> Eldred

>FWIW, son gets the 'yearly updates' to FIFA every year. He want's them, and  
>I'm the sap that keeps buying them for him. This is for a PS, so I don't
>know if the same applies for PC. Like I said here before, for the amount of
>entertainment hours/dollar I can't beat Papy. If it costs me $40-$50+, or
>whatever the amount is, per year to get 100's, if not 1000's of hours of
>entertainment, I'm all for it. A movie and dinner costs that much, and if
>my wife picks the movie I'll probably sleep through it anyway!

Hehe...ok.  1000's of hours would pretty much impossible, though.<g>  You'd
have to play for almost 3 hours EVERY DAY just to get to ONE thousand hours.
Does anyone really play games that much???

Eldred

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Mike Kin

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by Mike Kin » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 20:39:55








>>> snip

>>> Eldred

>>FWIW, son gets the 'yearly updates' to FIFA every year. He want's them,
>>and  I'm the sap that keeps buying them for him. This is for a PS, so I
>>don't know if the same applies for PC. Like I said here before, for the
>>amount of entertainment hours/dollar I can't beat Papy. If it costs me
>>$40-$50+, or whatever the amount is, per year to get 100's, if not
>>1000's of hours of entertainment, I'm all for it. A movie and dinner
>>costs that much, and if my wife picks the movie I'll probably sleep
>>through it anyway!

> Hehe...ok.  1000's of hours would pretty much impossible, though.<g>
> You'd have to play for almost 3 hours EVERY DAY just to get to ONE
> thousand hours. Does anyone really play games that much???

> Eldred

> Eldred

Ok, point taken. 1000 may have been a bit of an exageration. But when GPL
and N3 first came out, I bet I was pretty dang close to 3 hours a night for
the better part of a year.
Mike Grand

Nascar 2002 Demo

by Mike Grand » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 22:44:58

It was just a demo, the release version will be better.

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Mike Grand

Nascar 2002 Demo

by Mike Grand » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 22:46:00

NR2002=N4 patch + $45=Whiner

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> NR2002=N4 patch + $45


> > Tried the Nascar 2002 demo...

> > Here were my first observations:
> > 1) No Force Feedback (I use Logitech Wingman Formula Force). I tried
many
> > things but no luck.
> > 2) Slower framerate (than N4)
> > 3) Colours looked faded compared to N4 (ran N4 right after and the
colors
> > looked brilliant)
> > 4) The driving seemed just a tad easier (but that may have been only
initial
> > impressions however).

> > Now these could be all demo issues... but so far have no great desire to
> > purchase 2002 until I find out more about these items.

> > cheers ...Rico

Glockenspie

Nascar 2002 Demo

by Glockenspie » Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:21:35



>>DUH ................. it's a demo!!


>>> Tried the Nascar 2002 demo...

>>> Here were my first observations:
>>> 1) No Force Feedback (I use Logitech Wingman Formula Force). I tried many
>>> things but no luck.
>>> 2) Slower framerate (than N4)
>>> 3) Colours looked faded compared to N4 (ran N4 right after and the colors
>>> looked brilliant)
>>> 4) The driving seemed just a tad easier (but that may have been only
>>initial
>>> impressions however).

>>> Now these could be all demo issues... but so far have no great desire to
>>> purchase 2002 until I find out more about these items.

>...Which is supposed to show what the game is CAPABLE of...DUH...  Why the
>attitude?  Rick even *allowed* for the fact that there might only be problems
>in the demo.  If the demo sucked in your opinion(not saying it does) would you
>be all fired up to buy the retail version?  What's the point of having a demo
>at ALL if it doesn't do a good job of showing how the full game will run?

>Eldred

But OTOH, why buy the game if they load the demo with all the goodies?

We need to also keep in mine that not all the bells and whistles are
ironed out when the demos get released. They could just NOT release a
demo at all. My God, what an uproar THAT would cause. There are too
many variables to consider. Unless I'm hell-bent on having the game, I
will listen to what others who purchase it have to say about it before
I decide on a purchase. I RARELY let a demo impact my buying decision.
But, whichever you prefer.................

Todd

Glockenspie

Nascar 2002 Demo

by Glockenspie » Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:27:04

On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 20:28:45 -0600, "Rick Clyde"


>Sorry... forgot why I stopped coming to this newsgroup... thanks for
>reminding me.

>cheers... Rico

Rico,

You took the words right out of my mouth brother. There are a lot of
smartassed snobs in here, and it's too bad. I followed this newsgroup
for many years under different usernames, and just got tired of asking
for help or just asking simple questions, only to come back a couple
days later and find either no response or a few smartassed replies. So
now I just lurk and occasionally assist someone that needs help. I
guess self-help is the new in thing now.

Todd

Glockenspie

Nascar 2002 Demo

by Glockenspie » Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:29:52

Yup, and until you do buy it, you'll be racing N4 against the AI,
because most, if not all, of the major servers are going to make the
switch to NR2002 almost immediately. Have fun...........

>If you play the demo and read a couple articles about what they put in N2002
>then even you will see that it is nothing but a minor update to N4. Not
>worth the money. I'll wait a month and pick it up for $15. Although I do
>still have a $30 gift card from Xmas so I could use that in a month and then
>pay what it's really worth! $5.00

>Vintook



>> Some of you are so stupid!! Did you write the code for any of these?? NO!!
>How do
>> you know it's a patch?? You don't!! also it's 49.99 try to get some of
>your facts
>> straight.


>> > NR2002=N4 patch + $45


>> > > Tried the Nascar 2002 demo...

>> > > Here were my first observations:
>> > > 1) No Force Feedback (I use Logitech Wingman Formula Force). I tried
>many
>> > > things but no luck.
>> > > 2) Slower framerate (than N4)
>> > > 3) Colours looked faded compared to N4 (ran N4 right after and the
>colors
>> > > looked brilliant)
>> > > 4) The driving seemed just a tad easier (but that may have been only
>initial
>> > > impressions however).

>> > > Now these could be all demo issues... but so far have no great desire
>to
>> > > purchase 2002 until I find out more about these items.

>> > > cheers ...Rico

Eldre

Nascar 2002 Demo

by Eldre » Wed, 20 Feb 2002 01:01:51



>But OTOH, why buy the game if they load the demo with all the goodies?

>We need to also keep in mine that not all the bells and whistles are
>ironed out when the demos get released. They could just NOT release a
>demo at all. My God, what an uproar THAT would cause. There are too
>many variables to consider. Unless I'm hell-bent on having the game, I
>will listen to what others who purchase it have to say about it before
>I decide on a purchase. I RARELY let a demo impact my buying decision.
>But, whichever you prefer.................

I agree that the demo shouldn't be expected to have ALL the features of the
real game.  But, if you can't use it with your wheel, f'rinstance, how can you
get an idea of how it will drive in the retail version.  That's very subjective
- settings you might like won't work for me, and vice-versa.

Eldred
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