rec.autos.simulators

> > If you play the demo and read a couple articles about what they put in
N2002
> > then even you will see that it is nothing but a minor update to N4. Not
> > worth the money. I'll wait a month and pick it up for $15. Although I do
> > still have a $30 gift card from Xmas so I could use that in a month and
then
> > pay what it's really worth! $5.00

> > Vintook

> > > Some of you are so stupid!! Did you write the code for any of these??
NO!!
> > How do
> > > you know it's a patch?? You don't!! also it's 49.99 try to get some of
> > your facts
> > > straight.

> > > > NR2002=N4 patch + $45

> > > > > Tried the Nascar 2002 demo...

> > > > > Here were my first observations:
> > > > > 1) No Force Feedback (I use Logitech Wingman Formula Force). I
tried
> > many
> > > > > things but no luck.
> > > > > 2) Slower framerate (than N4)
> > > > > 3) Colours looked faded compared to N4 (ran N4 right after and the
> > colors
> > > > > looked brilliant)
> > > > > 4) The driving seemed just a tad easier (but that may have been
only
> > initial
> > > > > impressions however).

> > > > > Now these could be all demo issues... but so far have no great
desire
> > to
> > > > > purchase 2002 until I find out more about these items.

> > > > > cheers ...Rico

> Vintook

> > Yeah, yeah, yeah.............. you tell us that!! I've been buying Papy
> NASCAR
> > sims since day 1 and to this date have yet to be disappointed. The only
> > disappointment I've had is when TEN was done away with. You might want to
> read
> > more, because there is more to NC2002 then just an update. you guys who
> dislike
> > NASCAR racing so bad should start writing a new racing sim program then we
> can
> > pick your stuff to death.

> > > If you play the demo and read a couple articles about what they put in
> N2002
> > > then even you will see that it is nothing but a minor update to N4. Not
> > > worth the money. I'll wait a month and pick it up for $15. Although I do
> > > still have a $30 gift card from Xmas so I could use that in a month and
> then
> > > pay what it's really worth! $5.00

> > > Vintook

> > > > Some of you are so stupid!! Did you write the code for any of these??
> NO!!
> > > How do
> > > > you know it's a patch?? You don't!! also it's 49.99 try to get some of
> > > your facts
> > > > straight.

> > > > > NR2002=N4 patch + $45

> > > > > > Tried the Nascar 2002 demo...

> > > > > > Here were my first observations:
> > > > > > 1) No Force Feedback (I use Logitech Wingman Formula Force). I
> tried
> > > many
> > > > > > things but no luck.
> > > > > > 2) Slower framerate (than N4)
> > > > > > 3) Colours looked faded compared to N4 (ran N4 right after and the
> > > colors
> > > > > > looked brilliant)
> > > > > > 4) The driving seemed just a tad easier (but that may have been
> only
> > > initial
> > > > > > impressions however).

> > > > > > Now these could be all demo issues... but so far have no great
> desire
> > > to
> > > > > > purchase 2002 until I find out more about these items.

> > > > > > cheers ...Rico

>>As I stated, I have a $30 gift card for Wal-Mart laying around so I'll
>>probably use that to get it the day it comes out. Then I'll really only be
>>paying what I feel it's worth.... about $15-$20. I don't think it's really
>>worth the $45-$50 since I already own at least half of it now (N4). I like
>>what they are doing and glad that it's coming out, just a little too steep
>>of a price for those of us that already have N4. They should give us a %50
>>discount or something for being long time costomers.

>>Vintook

>>>Yeah, yeah, yeah.............. you tell us that!! I've been buying Papy

>>NASCAR

>>>sims since day 1 and to this date have yet to be disappointed. The only
>>>disappointment I've had is when TEN was done away with. You might want to

>>read

>>>more, because there is more to NC2002 then just an update. you guys who

>>dislike

>>>NASCAR racing so bad should start writing a new racing sim program then we

>>can

>>>pick your stuff to death.

>>>>If you play the demo and read a couple articles about what they put in

>>N2002

>>>>then even you will see that it is nothing but a minor update to N4. Not
>>>>worth the money. I'll wait a month and pick it up for $15. Although I do
>>>>still have a $30 gift card from Xmas so I could use that in a month and

>>then

>>>>pay what it's really worth! $5.00

>>>>Vintook

>>>>>Some of you are so stupid!! Did you write the code for any of these??

>>NO!!

>>>>How do

>>>>>you know it's a patch?? You don't!! also it's 49.99 try to get some of

>>>>your facts

>>>>>straight.

>>>>>>NR2002=N4 patch + $45

>>>>>>>Tried the Nascar 2002 demo...

>>>>>>>Here were my first observations:
>>>>>>>1) No Force Feedback (I use Logitech Wingman Formula Force). I

>>tried

>>>>many

>>>>>>>things but no luck.
>>>>>>>2) Slower framerate (than N4)
>>>>>>>3) Colours looked faded compared to N4 (ran N4 right after and the

>>>>colors

>>>>>>>looked brilliant)
>>>>>>>4) The driving seemed just a tad easier (but that may have been

>>only

>>>>initial

>>>>>>>impressions however).

>>>>>>>Now these could be all demo issues... but so far have no great

>>desire

>>>>to

>>>>>>>purchase 2002 until I find out more about these items.

>>>>>>>cheers ...Rico

> > Least they could do is make the gfx obviously improved to justify the
> > cost. I'm hard pressed to see any gfx difference.

>   take a look at the cars, the tracks will be very close I suspect to whats
> currently in N4.  But N4's cars have kind of a stubby front end, (due to an
> unbalanced texture size) And with a 512x512 texture size now available in
> 2002, the cars noses(bonnets, hoods, etc) look much more symetric.  Since
> most of todays systems are already sweating trying to run N4 graphics at
> maximum, I'm not too heartbroken if they don't make a giant leap forward for
> 2002.  ( I would like to see the price cut by at least a third tho...)
> dave henrie

> > Least they could do is make the gfx obviously improved to justify the
> > cost. I'm hard pressed to see any gfx difference.

>   take a look at the cars, the tracks will be very close I suspect to
whats
> currently in N4.  But N4's cars have kind of a stubby front end, (due to
an
> unbalanced texture size) And with a 512x512 texture size now available in
> 2002, the cars noses(bonnets, hoods, etc) look much more symetric.  Since
> most of todays systems are already sweating trying to run N4 graphics at
> maximum, I'm not too heartbroken if they don't make a giant leap forward
for
> 2002.  ( I would like to see the price cut by at least a third tho...)
> dave henrie

> > aren't bonnets and hoods the same thing?
>   yes, I was just trying to be bi-lingual and use terminology that folks on
> both sides of the pond would understand.
> shoulda just kept it simple and said :
> that space between the windshield and the front bumper.
> :)
> dave henrie

>Dr87

>> >I don't know why you think it should be a free patch, I see many sports
>> >games, almost all actually that are basically the same game with updated
>> >roster and a few changes selling for full price. I never here people
>> >complaining about that.

>> Maybe they just don't buy them?

>> Eldred

> >I don't know why you think it should be a free patch, I see many sports
> >games, almost all actually that are basically the same game with updated
> >roster and a few changes selling for full price. I never here people
> >complaining about that.

> Maybe they just don't buy them?

> Eldred

> > aren't bonnets and hoods the same thing?
>   yes, I was just trying to be bi-lingual and use terminology that folks on
> both sides of the pond would understand.
> shoulda just kept it simple and said :
> that space between the windshield and the front bumper.
> :)
> dave henrie