This week, Christian Fittipaldi will fill the seat through the rest of
the season. I would guess they will have CF full time next year in the
#43.
This week, Christian Fittipaldi will fill the seat through the rest of
the season. I would guess they will have CF full time next year in the
#43.
> Particularly after today, I'd have to agree. A good driver is a good
> driver. I think it would have been a bit more even if JPM had run
> Indy as an oval rather than as a road course. That would give us some
> idea of how he'd cut it in NASCAR.
> I had thought that having all the data acquisition information
> available to the drivers & engineers would erode the driver quality,
> but apparently that is not the case. It didn't take long for JPM to
> connect with Philipe Lopez and talk about the car. Nor did it take
> him long to adopt the terminology either.
Guess that about sums it up :-), both of these guys are incredibly
talented and would do good in whatever racing series they chose to
participate in, given a fair chance
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
Zanardi was way slower than Schumie Jr. in the same cars. Do
you imply that Ralf is much faster driver then Michael?
Alex.
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 22:09:44 GMT, Mike Donnelly Jr
Don McCorkle
>On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 22:09:44 GMT, Mike Donnelly Jr
>>Could he make the jump successfully? Probably. But, look at JPM.
>>He's a fantastic driver, and yet he has what, 2 wins?
>What do you expect? Somebody broke his ***ing head.
>Don McCorkle
Mike
>>Could he make the jump successfully? Probably. But, look at JPM.
>>He's a fantastic driver, and yet he has what, 2 wins? Granted, he's
>>had a lot of mechanical misfortune when he's had winning
>>opportunities, but still, if there was someone who could take on
>>Shumie, I would have put some money that it would have been him. I'm
>>still shocked that Zanardi didnt go back and kick Shumie's butt. That
>>was a guy with some serious car control. Even with a slightly
>>inferior car, I figured he'd give Shumie a run.
>Ehhh... Go back from where? He absolutely, positively *BOMBED* in
>Williams in '99. With a capital b.
Sportscars and stockcars aren't the same. They're closer that F1 &
stockcars, but there isn't a european equivilent to NASCAR over there.
Yet.
lol. I bet they didn't know who he was. I imagine that if he (or his
agent) had called ahead, it would have gone a bit differently...
When he gets tired of F1 and still has a hankering to drive, I'd say
come on over and give it a serious try.
Mike
>> I'm
>> still shocked that Zanardi didnt go back and kick Shumie's butt. That
>> was a guy with some serious car control. Even with a slightly
>> inferior car, I figured he'd give Shumie a run.
>Zanardi was way slower than Schumie Jr. in the same cars. Do
>you imply that Ralf is much faster driver then Michael?
>Alex.
Mike
> >On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 22:09:44 GMT, Mike Donnelly Jr
> >>Could he make the jump successfully? Probably. But, look at JPM.
> >>He's a fantastic driver, and yet he has what, 2 wins?
> >What do you expect? Somebody broke his ***ing head.
> >Don McCorkle
> Congratulations! You've just managed to join Mr Fisher in the
> distinguished list of people on my killfile list. And you managed to
> do it in a single post. Normally it takes several irrelevant posts to
> do so.
> Mike
David G Fisher
>Question is: was it him or the car? As I recall, that was also when
>they transitioned to grooved tires as well. So, he had a huge change
>to overcome and if I remember, the Williams wasn't as good as it could
>have been. My biggest problem with F1 is if Shumie was in a Tyrell or
>other back grid car, he couldn't overcome the weakness of the car with
>superior driving skills. At best he'd get a couple of points for the
>team here and there. Which would bring it up a few slots in the
>constructors ranks, allow them to get better personell (& heavier
>sponsorship to fund it) and it 3-4 seasons they'd be challenging for
>the title. BUT, only after 2-3 seasons of building and making *better
>cars*. The car is the first question, then the driving skill of the
>driver.
It was true that Williams wasn't at the top of their game in '98 and
'99(to say the least), they were a bit caught out by the rule changes
in '98, grooved tyres et.al. But if you compare the two teammates
Ralfie completely trounced poor Alessandro. Check out the European GP
that year for instance:
Ralf: Q 4 Race 4
Alex: Q 18(!) Race DNF
Ralf outqualified Zanardi by almost _two_ whole seconds. Furthermore,
Ralfie took three podiums, five fourth and three fifth places that
year. Alex didn't take one single point but racked up 10 DNFs!
According to Zanardi himself he couldn't get to terms with the
carbon-carbon brakes and the many setup options on an F1 compared to a
champcar. Williams even tried carbon-steel brakes that year to see if
that would make any difference...
Well, as far as I'm concerned it is close enough. In sportscar racing
the #1 issue is tyre conservation. I suppose it is in NASCAR aswell,
maybe even moreso. Apart from plate tracks of course.
> >There was an anecdote from last year that said that Michael on
> >vacation in Texas went to the motorspeedway there to try out the Petty
> >experience(or something similar?) but grew tired of waiting in line...
> >Imagine the PR-value lost there and then.
> lol. I bet they didn't know who he was. I imagine that if he (or his
> agent) had called ahead, it would have gone a bit differently...
-jde
For those that missed the re-airs last night, I believe I saw it will be
shown again during prime time next Friday.
-jde
There kinda is, it's called ASCAR. It's about as popular as NASCAR is
outside the US, (ie) nobody cares.
>There kinda is, it's called ASCAR. It's about as popular as NASCAR is
>outside the US, (ie) nobody cares.
Mike
> > Particularly after today, I'd have to agree. A good driver is a good
> > driver. I think it would have been a bit more even if JPM had run
> > Indy as an oval rather than as a road course. That would give us some
> > idea of how he'd cut it in NASCAR.
> > I had thought that having all the data acquisition information
> > available to the drivers & engineers would erode the driver quality,
> > but apparently that is not the case. It didn't take long for JPM to
> > connect with Philipe Lopez and talk about the car. Nor did it take
> > him long to adopt the terminology either.
> Nigel Roebuck (sp, F1 hack) once asked Mario Andretti how he came to be
> so good in all sorts of series he entered, Mario apparently answered;
> "If you can drive, you can drive"
> Guess that about sums it up :-), both of these guys are incredibly
> talented and would do good in whatever racing series they chose to
> participate in, given a fair chance
> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy
> "goyl at nettx dot no"
> http://www.theuspits.com
> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
> --Groucho Marx--