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>>I took the plunge and bought the CH Pedals to use in place of the
>>pedals on the Logitech Wingman FF. Has anyone tried this combination,
>>with LWFF on USB and CH on gameport?

>Yep, I'm doing it and it works great!

>> If so, what gameport driver do
>>you use in Windows 98 for the CH Pedals?

>Gameport Driver? I just got them hooked up with my joystick and got
>the box checked that says rudder pedals attached.

>>Just wondering if it makes
>>more sense to rewire the CH Pedals to the Logitech and just have a
>>single USB connection,

>I might be wrong about this but I dont think you can rewire them with
>the Formula Force only the regular Wingman Formula with out FF.
>And besides I still like to using  my joystick/rudder pedal
>combination when I'm playing with my flightsims.

>> or try to set up two game controllers and
>>select the appropriate axis in GPL.

>Thats what I'm doing.

>> I am leaning towards having both a
>>USB and gameport connection, and could then use the Logitech gas pedal
>>as a clutch :)

>Hmm.....I Never thought about that! Might have to try it!  I don't
>know though I just layed them out that way and it just don't feel
>right besides I race with one foot on the gas and the other on the
>brake and moving my feet all around would probally***me up! And
>besides that I harldy ever use the cluch anyway except when taking off
>from the starting line in a race. i think it'easier just using a
>button on the wheel.

>>Thanks for any advice,
>>Keith.

>One thing to be sure of in the advanced section of the Game
>Controllers menu in Win 98  make sure you got your joystick/rudder
>pedals set up on Controller ID #1 and your LWFF set up on controller
>ID #2. It wont work the other way around or at least for me it wont.
>And one other thing I've noticed is that if you launch the Logitech
>Wingman Profiller (to set up your buttons for GPL) it will switch your
>controller ID's around. You got to set up your buttons inside GPL
>otherwise it won't work.

>As long as you have the brake on when you put it in gear the car will
>not move unless you step on the gas.
>You can put the clutch in and rev it to your heart's content.
>BobM

>> Using a third pedal for clutch isn't very sensible. You'll not be able
>to
>> perform a good start at some of the down/uphill starting grids. All
>because
>> of the fact that the braking and gas pedal are too far apart. In a
>real
>> racing car you have to keep your foot lightly on the brakes and rev
>the
>> engine by heel and toeing. With my pedal set that's not possible. So
>for GPL
>> I prefer a button on the wheel. Although maybe it's worth a try for
>flat
>> starting grids. It will probably improve the starts big time.

>> You must have misunderstood me, when you're starting at Spa for
>example the
>> car will definitely start rolling if you don't use the brakes.

>> >In GPL this is incorrect.

>No I didn't.  Agreed, when you go to Spa, you must have your brakes on
>or you will start rolling.  Let the brakes go and you won't roll.
>If you hit  the green button without having the brakes applied you will
>roll, but once you put the brakes on and then off, the car will not
>roll.

>> >As long as you have the brake on when you put it in gear the car will
>> >not move unless you step on the gas.
>> >You can put the clutch in and rev it to your heart's content.
>> >BobM

>  Try It.

>>As long as you have the brake on when you put it in gear the car will
>>not move unless you step on the gas.
>>You can put the clutch in and rev it to your heart's content.
>>BobM


>>> Using a third pedal for clutch isn't very sensible. You'll not be able
>>to
>>> perform a good start at some of the down/uphill starting grids. All
>>because
>>> of the fact that the braking and gas pedal are too far apart. In a
>>real
>>> racing car you have to keep your foot lightly on the brakes and rev
>>the
>>> engine by heel and toeing. With my pedal set that's not possible. So
>>for GPL
>>> I prefer a button on the wheel. Although maybe it's worth a try for
>>flat
>>> starting grids. It will probably improve the starts big time.