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Mach64 Problem

M.DSant

Mach64 Problem

by M.DSant » Sun, 20 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Hi,
I'm having trouble getting speed out of my video card with the game
Grand Prix 2.   I just bought the video card yesterday and installed
all the latest drivers for it (the drivers found on the hompage).
Its a VLB Mach64 2M VRam
I've also installed the Vesa Utility for the Mach64.

But I'm only getting 8 or 9 fps in the game.  (This information coming
from the proper logs and optoins screens in the game.)  This is in
both a dos window and a full dos secession in win95.
This is slower than my old S3 805 2Meg that I had in previously.

I know this is supposed to be a fast video card, but can you help me
in getting the proper speed out of it.  Are there certain settings I
should be using in the Vesa Utility?

your help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks.

M.DSantos

Toronto, Canada

Eric T. Busc

Mach64 Problem

by Eric T. Busc » Sun, 20 Oct 1996 04:00:00

I just replaced my ATI Mach64 (mine was a PCI).  It was a nice card in
Windows, but it was quite slow in DOS.  I've not played GP2, but those
framerates could very well be the best the ATI is able to get.  I'm not at
all surprised it's slower than your old card.

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Craig March

Mach64 Problem

by Craig March » Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:00:00



> Hi,
> I'm having trouble getting speed out of my video card with the game
> Grand Prix 2.   I just bought the video card yesterday and installed
> all the latest drivers for it (the drivers found on the hompage).
> Its a VLB Mach64 2M VRam
> I've also installed the Vesa Utility for the Mach64.
(snip)
> I know this is supposed to be a fast video card, but can you help me
> in getting the proper speed out of it.  Are there certain settings I
> should be using in the Vesa Utility?

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the ATI is the WORST card I've seen
in dos games. I've used on the same system within a one month period,
Trident 9440, ATI Mach64, S3Trio64+, and Matrox Mellinium. The Trident even
outscored the ATI on ICR2 Frame rates (with Univbe installed). The S3 Trio
did about the same in Windows as the ATI, and far exceeded the ATI in dos
games. Of course, the Trident didn't do well at all in Windows. The Matrox
is the best of all I've "personally" tested, but the price is also alot
higher. The Matrox is what I settled down with. If you can return the ATI,
I would.

--
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Alex Demchu

Mach64 Problem

by Alex Demchu » Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:00:00

The problem may lie in the fact that you don'y have a precessor that can
come close to handling the game. What CPU do you have?


> Hi,
> I'm having trouble getting speed out of my video card with the game
> Grand Prix 2.   I just bought the video card yesterday and installed
> all the latest drivers for it (the drivers found on the hompage).
> Its a VLB Mach64 2M VRam
> I've also installed the Vesa Utility for the Mach64.

> But I'm only getting 8 or 9 fps in the game.  (This information coming
> from the proper logs and optoins screens in the game.)  This is in
> both a dos window and a full dos secession in win95.
> This is slower than my old S3 805 2Meg that I had in previously.

> I know this is supposed to be a fast video card, but can you help me
> in getting the proper speed out of it.  Are there certain settings I
> should be using in the Vesa Utility?

> your help would be greatly appreciated.
> thanks.

> M.DSantos

> Toronto, Canada

Christopher Salm

Mach64 Problem

by Christopher Salm » Tue, 22 Oct 1996 04:00:00

But don't worry because if they bring out a patch that fixes the VESA
(2) driver problem it will improve the frame rate a lot!

Wayne Levenselle

Mach64 Problem

by Wayne Levenselle » Tue, 22 Oct 1996 04:00:00


> Hi,
> I'm having trouble getting speed out of my video card with the game
> Grand Prix 2.   I just bought the video card yesterday and installed
> all the latest drivers for it (the drivers found on the hompage).
> Its a VLB Mach64 2M VRam
> I've also installed the Vesa Utility for the Mach64.

> But I'm only getting 8 or 9 fps in the game.  (This information coming
> from the proper logs and optoins screens in the game.)  This is in
> both a dos window and a full dos secession in win95.
> This is slower than my old S3 805 2Meg that I had in previously.

> I know this is supposed to be a fast video card, but can you help me
> in getting the proper speed out of it.  Are there certain settings I
> should be using in the Vesa Utility?

> your help would be greatly appreciated.
> thanks.

> M.DSantos

> Toronto, Canada

I own a MACH64 VLB 2M VRAM also.... It doesn't perform very well in
Dos compared to most other 64 bit cards.  I can run Doom V1.9 following
the criteria described at http://www.dfw.net/~sdw/bench.html
and with the Mach64 I get only 55 frames/sec, but with a Stealth64
2M Vram.... I get 65 frames/sec.  Also with 3DBench, the Mach64
gets 83 Frames/sec and the Stealth64 gets 100.  The Mach64 does seem to
perform better in Win95 than the Stealth64 VRAM (S3 964 without the
MPEG).  The ATI Mach64 gives a better clearer Picture too.

If your looking for better frame rates in Dos games for a VLB system,
don't bother waisting money on VRAM... it doesn't help.
Look for a TSENGs Lab ET4000 chip based VLB card... I picked one
up new with 2M Dram yesterday for $54 bucks.  I still need to run Doom
V1.9, but 3Dbench got 100 (I was hoping for more).  I thought it would
be slower in Win95, but when I ran Winstone96... the score was 52... I
usually get around 51~52 with the Mach64.  I need to try Winbench95.

be cool,
Wayne


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