rec.autos.simulators

>>> You blithering idiots! You re-elected that imbecile George Bush as
>>> your President. He's a complete moron and so are most of you!

>   So a diploma from Harvard is proof of moron-hood eh?  I guess my
> little ol Washington State University 4year degree then must equal
> something below that, below moron.
> Sub-Moron...I like that..

>>> -
>>> Don't you care what the rest of the world thinks of you? Don't you
>>> care what impact American foreign policy has on the rest of the
>>> planet?  Does Iraq look like a success to anyone?  Doesn't it bother
>>> you that he's alienated every friend you have? What were you
>>> thinking??? -

>    No I don't care what the rest of the world thinks.  Why should I?

>>> Prior to this, it was American policy and the American government
>>> that was so universally hated around the world. Now it's going to be
>>> 'Americans' we hate.  More sympathy for Bin Laden... More attacks on
>>> American institutions...  More isolation.   How blind can you dumb
>>> rednecks in middle-America be, not to see this?  -

>    Methinks Neville Chamberlin is alive and well.  Let me get this
> straight,  BEFORE President Bush was elected, the people of the USA were
> loved and endeared by all the world right?  So WHY whould our embassies
> be bombed when we were so loved?  Why would our men stationed in Europe
> get attack via nightclub bombing?  Why would our ships be attacked?  Why
> would our civilians be ***ed?  We were being killed and attacked
> before George Bush was President, I don't believe you can point to one
> specific policy that was implemented AFTER George Bush's innauguration
> that would have instigated the *** of 3000 US citizens.  The attacks
> on the World Trade Towers, The Pentagon and the defenseless field in
> Pennsyvania were all planned LONG before George Bush was elected.

>>> If you get hit again, or your economy goes into a deep depression,
>>> the American people will be getting exactly what they deserve!
>>> -
>>> <back turned>

>    If we get hit again, it will mean we face a determined foe who is
> hiding behind the myth of religion to justify the killing of anyone they
> choose.  Tell me Zarkowie is a zealot, he's nothing more than a ***er,
> somebody who delights in others pain...well, let me tell ya folks..the
> world is full of those types...we have plenty right here in the good ol
> US of A.   Our economy DID suffer from the 2nd and 3rd attacks on the
> world trade towers, but we have pulled ourselves up and out.  How is the
> French Economy doing these days?  Near Double Digit unemployment last I
> heard.  The Germans?  I'm sure those in the Eastern provinces are basking
> the glow of a healthy economy.
>  Again, blather all you want about somebody whom you appear not to have
> much knowledge.  But your blind comments about President Bush and HIS
> polices seem to have not been carefully thought out.  We are America.  We
> are bigfatdumblazy but if not for us, how many peoples of the world would
> still live under oppression?  How many languages would Europe have?(just
> one Herr Knowitall)  Who feeds the world?  Who commits more money than
> the rest of the planet to fight aids, hunger, devastation?  Who put our
> children's lives in harm's way to defend Europe after World War II?  Who
> stood up in Europe and said ENOUGH when the Serbs were cleansing
> Yugoslavia?  Which countries today have used the term Genocide when
> speaking of the Sudan?(only one that I know of)...Speaking for the USA,
> Secratary of State Colin Powell used that word when all the rest of the
> world's hand-wringers merely said a study should be undertaken.

>  You may not like us, too bad, I've met many good folks here.  I suppose
> your vision of America is that all near 300million are the same.
> But again, this really does come down to one of your complaints...
> "Don't we care what the world thinks of us?"  The answer is twofold, if
> you mean do we care what the French, Germans and Russians think of us
> while they took BILLIONS of dollars in cash and thereby food from the
> mouths of Iraqi children, from the Oil for Food program, quite possibly
> the words biggest finacial scandal, then NO we do not care.  If you mean
> don't we care about how the rest of the world can help us...then
> again...if you mean how our $$ can support the rest of the world...Maybe
> we should put big walls up and hide behind them.  I'm sure we would do
> okay, but how would Europe, Asia, Africa and even Australia survive
> without the constant influx of USA dollars.  No my friend...we may be
> ugly...but we are the hope and the checkbook of the world.   Until China
> fully modernizes and becomes a consumer nation, you need us much more
> than we need you.

>  If you like to turn your back, feel free.  But put your hands in your
> pockets...the world has too long benefitted from the generosity of the
> United States of America with little real payback.

>  Finally again, since this has been a long retort...just what single
> policy implemented by President George W Bush forced Osama Bin Laden to
> attack civilians in New York City?
> Dave Henrie
> Citizen of the United States of America and an official SUB-Moron.

> >> You blithering idiots! You re-elected that imbecile George Bush as
> >> your President. He?s a complete moron and so are most of you!

>    So a diploma from Harvard is proof of moron-hood eh?  I guess my
> little ol Washington State University 4year degree then must equal
> something below that, below moron.
> Sub-Moron...I like that..

> >    So a diploma from Harvard is proof of moron-hood eh?  I guess my
> > little ol Washington State University 4year degree then must equal
> > something below that, below moron.

> While it's not an exact proof of moronhood, neither is it a proof of
> intellectual capability I am afraid, esp. if your daddy happens to
> have deep pockets and certain good "relations" (called "Vitamin B"
> here in Germany ;-) on all levels of society.

> cheers,

> uwe

> >> You blithering idiots! You re-elected that imbecile George Bush as
> >> your President. He's a complete moron and so are most of you!

>    So a diploma from Harvard is proof of moron-hood eh?  I guess my
> little ol Washington State University 4year degree then must equal
> something below that, below moron.
> Sub-Moron...I like that..

> >> -
> >> Don't you care what the rest of the world thinks of you? Don't you
> >> care what impact American foreign policy has on the rest of the
> >> planet?  Does Iraq look like a success to anyone?  Doesn't it bother
> >> you that he's alienated every friend you have? What were you
> >> thinking??? -

>     No I don't care what the rest of the world thinks.  Why should I?

> >> Prior to this, it was American policy and the American government
> >> that was so universally hated around the world. Now it's going to be
> >> 'Americans' we hate.  More sympathy for Bin Laden... More attacks on
> >> American institutions...  More isolation.   How blind can you dumb
> >> rednecks in middle-America be, not to see this?  -

>     Methinks Neville Chamberlin is alive and well.  Let me get this
> straight,  BEFORE President Bush was elected, the people of the USA were
> loved and endeared by all the world right?  So WHY whould our embassies
> be bombed when we were so loved?  Why would our men stationed in Europe
> get attack via nightclub bombing?  Why would our ships be attacked?  Why
> would our civilians be ***ed?  We were being killed and attacked
> before George Bush was President, I don't believe you can point to one
> specific policy that was implemented AFTER George Bush's innauguration
> that would have instigated the *** of 3000 US citizens.  The attacks
> on the World Trade Towers, The Pentagon and the defenseless field in
> Pennsyvania were all planned LONG before George Bush was elected.

> >> If you get hit again, or your economy goes into a deep depression,
> >> the American people will be getting exactly what they deserve!
> >> -
> >> <back turned>

>     If we get hit again, it will mean we face a determined foe who is
> hiding behind the myth of religion to justify the killing of anyone they
> choose.  Tell me Zarkowie is a zealot, he's nothing more than a ***er,
> somebody who delights in others pain...well, let me tell ya folks..the
> world is full of those types...we have plenty right here in the good ol
> US of A.   Our economy DID suffer from the 2nd and 3rd attacks on the
> world trade towers, but we have pulled ourselves up and out.  How is the
> French Economy doing these days?  Near Double Digit unemployment last I
> heard.  The Germans?  I'm sure those in the Eastern provinces are basking
> the glow of a healthy economy.
>   Again, blather all you want about somebody whom you appear not to have
> much knowledge.  But your blind comments about President Bush and HIS
> polices seem to have not been carefully thought out.  We are America.  We
> are bigfatdumblazy but if not for us, how many peoples of the world would
> still live under oppression?  How many languages would Europe have?(just
> one Herr Knowitall)  Who feeds the world?  Who commits more money than
> the rest of the planet to fight aids, hunger, devastation?  Who put our
> children's lives in harm's way to defend Europe after World War II?  Who
> stood up in Europe and said ENOUGH when the Serbs were cleansing
> Yugoslavia?  Which countries today have used the term Genocide when
> speaking of the Sudan?(only one that I know of)...Speaking for the USA,
> Secratary of State Colin Powell used that word when all the rest of the
> world's hand-wringers merely said a study should be undertaken.

>   You may not like us, too bad, I've met many good folks here.  I suppose
> your vision of America is that all near 300million are the same.
> But again, this really does come down to one of your complaints...
> "Don't we care what the world thinks of us?"  The answer is twofold, if
> you mean do we care what the French, Germans and Russians think of us
> while they took BILLIONS of dollars in cash and thereby food from the
> mouths of Iraqi children, from the Oil for Food program, quite possibly
> the words biggest finacial scandal, then NO we do not care.  If you mean
> don't we care about how the rest of the world can help us...then
> again...if you mean how our $$ can support the rest of the world...Maybe
> we should put big walls up and hide behind them.  I'm sure we would do
> okay, but how would Europe, Asia, Africa and even Australia survive
> without the constant influx of USA dollars.  No my friend...we may be
> ugly...but we are the hope and the checkbook of the world.   Until China
> fully modernizes and becomes a consumer nation, you need us much more
> than we need you.

>   If you like to turn your back, feel free.  But put your hands in your
> pockets...the world has too long benefitted from the generosity of the
> United States of America with little real payback.

>   Finally again, since this has been a long retort...just what single
> policy implemented by President George W Bush forced Osama Bin Laden to
> attack civilians in New York City?
> Dave Henrie
> Citizen of the United States of America and an official SUB-Moron.

>   Oh, you mean like Kerry has with the Kennedys and the Heinz fortune ?

>>>> <snip>
>>   So a diploma from Harvard is proof of moron-hood eh?  I guess my
>> little ol Washington State University 4year degree then must equal
>> something below that, below moron.
>> Sub-Moron...I like that..

> See also Uwe's reply. President Bush simply doesn't project the image of a
> university graduate.

> > The world's #1 terrorist is George Bush. He's a liar, a brainwashed
> > ***en Bible thumper, a criminal, an idiot, and a worldwide
> > embarrassment. Everyone on the planet outside of the 50 million "m***
> > values" saviors and flag wavers who voted for him sees that. Hopefully
> > the supporters, friends and loved ones of the 100,000 innocent men,
> > women, and children he's slaughtered in Iraq will get equal revenge on
> > him and his terrorist organization.

> > Whatever happens now, the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of
> > Bush and his supporters.

> > 100,000 (and tens of thousands more mutilated and injured) and
> > counting, and for nothing but his lies about non-existent WMD, and yet
> > some Americans still have the nerve to label others terrorists. If I
> > could pluck those fools by the collar and instantly drop them in Iraq
> > next to those dead, mangled bodies of women and children, they'd shit
> > themselves.

> > David G Fisher

>    Again David.  I ask you  a simple question.
> Where was your m***outrage when President Clinton was bombing
> indiscriminently over the skies of South Eastern Europe?  His fear of US
> Casulties kept the Air Force artificially high with their bombing runs
> and certainly resulted in a much higher scale of civilian deaths than if
> he'd have prosecuted the nearly 3 month bombing campaign with lower,
> higher precision targeting.
>    You certainly have the right to make your claims, but you do need
> perspective.  The bulk of casulties inflicted upon the world by US troops
> have come at the hands of Democratic regimes.  Your stand against war is
> honorable, but is it a stand couched in decency or merely political
> stridency?
>    Your 100,000 victims is a telling number.  One would think whole
> portions of Iraq would be turned into burial plots to intern such a large
> number.  Strange how such vast burial sites have not been reported on by
> the world's press.  A quick Google survey showed one Group, the Lancet
> group estimating 100,000.  After that game reports from the non American
> Friendly BBC and CNN that listed cilivian casulties at 15,000.  The first
> page of searches brought about a 6 to 1 ratio of the ultra-high number of
> 100k vs the number which is only 15% of Lancet's.  Blame  One would still
> have to consider if the 100,000 is accurate, it pales in comparision to
> the killing of Iraqis by Saddam's hand.  Last I heard, mass graves
> accounted for more than 350,000 Iraqis with some estimates of nearly 1
> Million CIVILIANS killed during Saddam's tenure.  These were not US
> thinktank sites remember, just a quick and very unscientific search via
> Google.  Seems like President Bush is not being thorough enough.   Surely
> with all his lying and idiocy he can kill more Iraqis than Saddam.
> Certainly war is painful and gruesome, yet blame is all to easy, pointing
> a finger makes one feel better inside I would think. And any number can
> be twisted to fit my needs or yours.
>    So feel free to throw incendiary words and insults around...but
> please, show me consitancy...dig up your m***outrage you MUST have
> vented on BBS's and the early net at the Clinton Adminstration, at the
> Carter and Regan presidencies, at the butcheries of FDR and Harry S
> Truman.  If you can prove to me that Lyndon B Johnson's Rolling Thunder
> Campaign was any less offensive to human life, then you can stand up and
> rail to heavens...but if only Republican Presidents are guilty of ***
> and mayhem then please...shut up.  I welcome honest thought not screaming
> insults.

> dave henrie
> (remember, sub-moron here.)