rec.autos.simulators

by **Kyle Langst** » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00

>On Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:30:16 -0800, Scott Stevenson

>> Guess what? I'm betting money that what you did is a violation of
>>your TOS agreement--at least that's what I told your postmaster. I hope
>>that I'm not the only one to have reported this (hint, hint).

>My complain is in the mail.

>Kyle Langston
>____________________________________________
>IBM #72 Ford Thunderbird - Hurricane Racing
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/
>NASS Series 1997 Winsten Cup Division

Oops, my COMPLAINT.

Kyle Langston

by **SimRaci** » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Hey Scott...

Just thought I'd remind you. ;)

Best Regards,

Marc

by **Marcus Ple** » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Matt,

This is not intended as a flame. Everytime you read Usenet, you need
to start out by reminding yourself that not everything you read is
going to be true. In fact, most of what you will read is probably not
true. If it were, then it just wouldn't be Usenet. ;-)

Gene Spafford (could be wrong here) perhaps best summed it up with:

"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it."

--Marcus

>> I am sorry to hear that. I am deeply disappointed in that move by
>> Papyrus. It gives me the impression that Papyrus only wants to make
>> money at the expense of loyal software buyers. Don't get me wrong I
>> love the game, but I am going to side with some of the other people on
>> this issue. I feel that Papyrus tried to push the game out the door
>> before it was ready so that they could get the extra revenue from
>> Christmas sales. It would have made more sense the end user. Of course
>> now adays the software companies hurry up and release the product with
>> bugs, missing features, and other items that should have been addressed.

>> This move on Papyrus part, I think, was a poor choice. It give the end
>> user the impression I stated above, in addition to costing them sales.
>> It will cost Papyrus sales because people will only stand so much.
>> People are also getting irritated that software companies are expecting
>> the end user to find the flaws in the software and if the company is in
>> a cheerful mood they might fix the gripes.

>> A disappointed, maybe depending on future releases Papyrus customer
>> Matt Stark

by **ccorpor** » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00

writes:

REPLY:

I would like to take this time to state I do sift through this group as well
(although not hundreds on a dialy basis) And for what? The love of the game,
trying to push Papy to go the extra yard. For no financial gain whatsoever.

In all honesty you would think a company would always sift through the ng in
their best interests. I for one would always want to know what my customers
were thinking. So if Jim does it all on his own it's a credit to him and a
discredit to Papy. They should pay a man to know what the customer is thinking
about a product. We sure have'm at our place and we only have a handful of
customers.

I don't know but this is a two way street and Papy should be here. Obviously
the *** who did this is easily forgotten and shouldn't deter any effort from
Papy to stay here. Your gonna have this kinda stuff in a forum like this. You
just look forward to the next post.

Q.B.M.

by **Marcus Ple** » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Wow. Forged news. This is an impressive display of your technical skills.
Now come on, you posted this at 8:50 PM CST from your netcom account. Isn't
that past your bed time?

Inquiring minds want to know . . .

by **Scott Stevenso** » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00

> Hey Scott...

> Just thought I'd remind you. ;)

Thanks! I wouldn't want to forget the nice person or persons who

Keep those cards and letters coming in...
Scott

"Ich bin das Eierman, sie sind die Eiermaenner, Ich bin das Walross"
"Je suis l'oeufhomme, ils sont les oeufhommes, je suis le moors"

by **Don Mullin** » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00

> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but.....
> We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:(
> Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3
> comes out during the first quarter of 98!

> Regretfully,

> Jim Sokoloff
> Papyrus

Some people have to much damn time on thier hands. Wow you can change
your name in your news reader. We all impressed. Grow the hell up and
get a life.
--
To all you villans out there I say, knock off all that evil!

The Rusty Wallace Miller Lite stock car, awsome when opened up!
GO#2!

Mullins Motorsports Inc.
http://www.***tron.com/~ddmj

by **Don Mullin** » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00

> > Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but.....
> > We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:(
> > Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3
> > comes out during the first quarter of 98!

> > Regretfully,

> > Jim Sokoloff
> > Papyrus

> I am sorry to hear that. I am deeply disappointed in that move by
> Papyrus. It gives me the impression that Papyrus only wants to make
> money at the expense of loyal software buyers. Don't get me wrong I
> love the game, but I am going to side with some of the other people on
> this issue. I feel that Papyrus tried to push the game out the door
> before it was ready so that they could get the extra revenue from
> Christmas sales. It would have made more sense the end user. Of course
> now adays the software companies hurry up and release the product with
> bugs, missing features, and other items that should have been addressed.

> This move on Papyrus part, I think, was a poor choice. It give the end
> user the impression I stated above, in addition to costing them sales.
> It will cost Papyrus sales because people will only stand so much.
> People are also getting irritated that software companies are expecting
> the end user to find the flaws in the software and if the company is in
> a cheerful mood they might fix the gripes.

> A disappointed, maybe depending on future releases Papyrus customer
> Matt Stark

The post was a fake by some one who needs to be struck with lightning a
few times.
--
To all you villans out there I say, knock off all that evil!

The Rusty Wallace Miller Lite stock car, awsome when opened up!
GO#2!

Mullins Motorsports Inc.
http://www.***tron.com/~ddmj

by **Perry Lawle** » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Is this true????

###########################################################
Perry Lawless
System Analyst/Microcomputer Specialist
Nicholls State University
Computer Services

###########################################################

by **David Otternes** » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00

> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but.....
> We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:(
> Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3
> comes out during the first quarter of 98!

> Regretfully,

> Jim Sokoloff
> Papyrus

Gee Richard, *THAT* was mature....

by **Don Mullin** » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00

> Is this true????

> >Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but.....
> >We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:(
> >Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3
> >comes out during the first quarter of 98!

> >Regretfully,

> >Jim Sokoloff
> >Papyrus

> ###########################################################
> Perry Lawless
> System Analyst/Microcomputer Specialist
> Nicholls State University
> Computer Services

> ###########################################################

No it is not. Some jack ass tryed to impersonate Jim, but didn't cover
his tracks at all.
--
To all you villans out there I say, knock off all that evil!

The Rusty Wallace Miller Lite stock car, awsome when opened up!
GO#2!

Mullins Motorsports Inc.
http://www.***tron.com/~ddmj

by **Don Mullin** » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00

> Forged news follows

> >Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but.....
> >We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:(
> >Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3
> >comes out during the first quarter of 98!

> >Regretfully,

> >Jim Sokoloff
> >Papyrus

> My, my, my; someone's got to fill up my day with something to do. The
> above post is a fake, apparently from an individual with a grudge
> against me and Papyrus.

> The patch has most certainly not been cancelled, and no announcements
> regarding NRO, nor N3 have been made.

> I've asked the postmaster to ascertain the party responsible (I'm sure
> that'll take some world-class sleuthing...) and to take appropriate
> action. I've also notified Papyrus management of this incident, and I
> suspect they'll want to have a little to do with it.

> In the meantime, if the above post, after hearing what the truth is,
> offends you, please express (in few words; postmasters are busy

> Thanks, I apologize for those who have been misled by this individual,
> and I presumably share your hope that justice will indeed by
> eventually served,
> ---Jim Sokoloff (the real one)

Glad to hear your still with us Jim. There always has to be one person
trying to ruin something for everyone else. I think that probably 95% of
the people who read his message complained to his ISP so we shouldn't
have to deal with him any longer.
--
To all you villans out there I say, knock off all that evil!

The Rusty Wallace Miller Lite stock car, awsome when opened up!
GO#2!

Mullins Motorsports Inc.
http://www.***tron.com/~ddmj

by **Matt** » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00

> On Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:07:09 -0600, David Otterness

> >Jim Sokoloff didn't actually write:

> >> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but.....
> >> We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:(
> >> Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3
> >> comes out during the first quarter of 98!

> >> Regretfully,

> >> Jim Sokoloff
> >> Papyrus

> >Gee Richard, *THAT* was mature....

> Just so everyone possible knows: the above post, attributed to me, was
> a forgery, and Papyrus has not cancelled the patch, nor has any delay
> been announced for NRO...

> ---Jim Sokoloff, (the real one) Papyrus

Notice how Richard Manning has not responded to any of this. What's the
deal Richard didn't think things through fully.

I guess that age old saying applies to you "Young, Dumb and full of
Cum." Grow up Richard that is what we would expect from a person in
middle school that rides the little yellow air conditioned bus.

by **Justin Rya** » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Nice Try "Dick"!!!

by **Jim Sokolo** » Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Forged news follows

My, my, my; someone's got to fill up my day with something to do. The
above post is a fake, apparently from an individual with a grudge
against me and Papyrus.

The patch has most certainly not been cancelled, and no announcements
regarding NRO, nor N3 have been made.

I've asked the postmaster to ascertain the party responsible (I'm sure
that'll take some world-class sleuthing...) and to take appropriate
action. I've also notified Papyrus management of this incident, and I
suspect they'll want to have a little to do with it.

In the meantime, if the above post, after hearing what the truth is,
offends you, please express (in few words; postmasters are busy

Thanks, I apologize for those who have been misled by this individual,
and I presumably share your hope that justice will indeed by
eventually served,
---Jim Sokoloff (the real one)

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