> Ah, but then you wouldn't have had the wonderful Rouen. (Probably
> someone would have done it by now though)
Me? Place me in the***pit of a Maser 250F and let me barrel along the
roadway through Masta any day of the year!
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Canberra, Australia.
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> > > Top job Greger, Roland and co.
> > > This is now officially my favourite track. Why the hell didn't Papy
> include
> > > this to begin with?
> > Ah, but then you wouldn't have had the wonderful Rouen. (Probably
> > someone would have done it by now though)
> I wouldn't miss it :-)
Maybe it's just me but I find hairpins and chicanes fun!
Er, ok they've over done it on most tracks, but 3rd-4th gear chicanes are
fun to sweep through, 1st gear ones with monster kerbs are a b***h!.
The last bit of Bugatti is tricky but the other rest is fun, long flat
straights into tight yet defined corners.
Tracks without defined corners bug me, no real line.
To repeat a plea from a while ago: anybody making graphic updates for
Silverstone that include brake markers?
>> Me? Place me in the***pit of a Maser 250F and let me barrel along the
>> roadway through Masta any day of the year!
> Maybe it's just me but I find hairpins and chicanes fun!
> Er, ok they've over done it on most tracks, but 3rd-4th gear chicanes are
> fun to sweep through, 1st gear ones with monster kerbs are a b***h!.
I can't say I like slow tracks. There's nothing I love more in driving
GPL than exiting a sweeping 200kph+ esse two inches from the outside armco.
Bugatti's T1 is just bliss! I could almost claim it the best turn in
all of GPL.
Yeah, complex corners bug me too, because the correct line through them
is most likely not the line that LOOKS correct. My driving is like the
text of a good novelist: I drive between the lines.
OTOH defined corners are boring once you learn them. Think of any turn at
Silverstone, then think of the fast part of Zandvoort. There can't be much
arguing which one is more exciting..
The thing that I find amiss in the Bugatti track is its flatness.
I recall reading that the 1967 track was laid out in the parking lots
behind the pits of the "real" track, which of course explains it,
but... well, it's still less flat than, say, Monza.
+Cinquo [36.xx]
> >> Well, there you go, Gradee.
> >> You are obviously are a man of the nineties.....one who prefers the
short,
> >> twisty, Ecclestone-style circuits rather than the splendid road courses
of
> >> yore.
> >> Me? Place me in the***pit of a Maser 250F and let me barrel along the
> >> roadway through Masta any day of the year!
> > Maybe it's just me but I find hairpins and chicanes fun!
> > Er, ok they've over done it on most tracks, but 3rd-4th gear chicanes
are
> > fun to sweep through, 1st gear ones with monster kerbs are a b***h!.
> It's not just you, oh no. I just had a prolonged and unsuccessful
> physical negotiation with a certain monster kerb in a certain 1st gear
> turn at a certain Canadian track, and I am just FUMING. .) I wonder if
> there's anyone reading this newsgroup who _did_ like slow chicanes (and
> there's no such thing as a fast chicane anyway so I have no idea what you
> mean by a 4th gear one).
Yip, Love it and how you fly over the brow then brake ahrd into the next
turn... that's what circuit racing is about! Not 14mile hikes through the
montains (which can be fun but heck, it's not something you enjoy doing for
a bit of fun, Bugatti is for me.
Zandy is definitly the best but once you get over the initial, "woooohooo"
phase you do need a good line.
Silverstone was never a nice circuit to drive despite what some say, it has
the honour of winning it and it has some nice monets but the track has gone
from bad to worse from 1950 to 2000. Boring to too damn twisty to bother
with. :-)
No doubt, Monza reeks with the current chicanes and the new single chicane
is even worse than the old double one (only 2 drivers seemed to do it well
to me and it was not the top 2!). 7th gear to 1st is terrible. With such a
long straight though it might be fun if they kept you to the right of the
track and then a sweeping left right to the right side of the track to curva
grande.... that'd be fun I think.
Driving straight super fast and corners super slow isn't much fun on it;s
own, you need some fast corners the hear the wheels squeal and to feel the
G's. 1960's Monza is brilliant, Only change I'd make is a quick left right
after the s'f line between the "new and old" parts of the circuit, it'd feel
great.
>Hmmm... I guees they aren't teh type of chicanes they have now... Not the
>hard breaking, big kerbs.
>I jsut like a nice sweeping left right combo... something with speed yet it
>challenges the driver to get a good line.
Eldred
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> >> Well, there you go, Gradee.
> >> You are obviously are a man of the nineties.....one who prefers the
short,
> >> twisty, Ecclestone-style circuits rather than the splendid road courses
of
> >> yore.
> >> Me? Place me in the***pit of a Maser 250F and let me barrel along the
> >> roadway through Masta any day of the year!
> > Maybe it's just me but I find hairpins and chicanes fun!
> > Er, ok they've over done it on most tracks, but 3rd-4th gear chicanes
are
> > fun to sweep through, 1st gear ones with monster kerbs are a b***h!.
> It's not just you, oh no. I just had a prolonged and unsuccessful
> physical negotiation with a certain monster kerb in a certain 1st gear
> turn at a certain Canadian track, and I am just FUMING. .) I wonder if
> there's anyone reading this newsgroup who _did_ like slow chicanes (and
> there's no such thing as a fast chicane anyway so I have no idea what you
> mean by a 4th gear one).
Mmmm.
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Tony Whitley
GPLRank +10.65
Yes please! And one for T1 at the 'Ring.
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Tony Whitley
GPLRank +10.65
I agree, and the other thing I find tricky about the 1st gear hairpins,
and this applies to all of them in GPL, is that I find it tricky to
judge the speed on them.
I find that I can judge the fast 120mph+ corners and get on the limit
easily, but any speed around 40-70mph looks visually the same to me, and
wheelspin is so easy that the revs aren't a good guide. It's bad for
laptimes, you lose loads of time if you take a 180 degree hairpin at 50
when you should be at 60mph!
- Michael
> >> It's not just you, oh no. I just had a prolonged and unsuccessful
> >> physical negotiation with a certain monster kerb in a certain 1st gear
> >> turn at a certain Canadian track, and I am just FUMING. .) I wonder if
> >> there's anyone reading this newsgroup who _did_ like slow chicanes (and
> >> there's no such thing as a fast chicane anyway so I have no idea what
you
> >> mean by a 4th gear one).
> >Hmmm... I guees they aren't teh type of chicanes they have now... Not the
> >hard breaking, big kerbs.
> >I jsut like a nice sweeping left right combo... something with speed yet
it
> >challenges the driver to get a good line.
> Like Masta? :)
I'll take the sweepers at Zandy over Masta anyday.
Dave Ewing
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