rec.autos.simulators

RALLY XTREME / RALLY 2002

John Metco

RALLY XTREME / RALLY 2002

by John Metco » Thu, 31 Jan 2002 13:15:25

hi

anyone tried this game ?
it is the latest of the Rally championship series /
Europress /Magnetics.

Very interesting and good physics ( if you keep to the
road )
but sounds are a bit off.

Graphics are much improved over the RS2000 but so
features
like saving replay etc are gone.

so far no much has been publicised about the game
and the website www.rallychampionshipxtreme.com
has not been updated for some time.

Alan Bernard

RALLY XTREME / RALLY 2002

by Alan Bernard » Thu, 31 Jan 2002 20:50:10

The game seems okay though it cannot be compared to Rally Trophy.  One thing
that immediately turned my head the other way was the fact that Rally
Extreme did not have a***pit mode.  For me, that ruins it, keeping me from
hardly playing the game at all.

Alanb


David G Fishe

RALLY XTREME / RALLY 2002

by David G Fishe » Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:23:57

Magnetic Fileds did not do this game. Completely different developer.

David G Fisher


Stephen Smit

RALLY XTREME / RALLY 2002

by Stephen Smit » Thu, 31 Jan 2002 23:26:18

David,

You keep saying that.  Has MF done a rally-based follow-up to RC?

--Steve



> Magnetic Fileds did not do this game. Completely different developer.

> David G Fisher



> > hi

> > anyone tried this game ?
> > it is the latest of the Rally championship series /
> > Europress /Magnetics.

> > Very interesting and good physics ( if you keep to the
> > road )
> > but sounds are a bit off.

> > Graphics are much improved over the RS2000 but so
> > features
> > like saving replay etc are gone.

> > so far no much has been publicised about the game
> > and the website www.rallychampionshipxtreme.com
> > has not been updated for some time.

GTX_SlotCa

RALLY XTREME / RALLY 2002

by GTX_SlotCa » Fri, 01 Feb 2002 00:03:15

The game is a dud. It' by Actualize. It was sent to me to review on SGN but
since it's a few months old, not very good at all, and not much had been
said about it, we decided not to do the review. I was wondering if I should
anyway just as a warning.
It tried 3 computers before I could even get it to run. With a V5500 or
V3000 the graphics were completely washed out (almost white) once you got
past the hood. (yes, there are 2***pit views, center and driver) Finally,
with the Radeon 8500 I got it to go past the warning "no agp acceleration
detected".
The graphics are old looking except for the shine on the cars, but even
worse, they're a resource hog. Lousy frame rates. Once you start a run, you
can't stop it except for hitting 'alt-F4'  and going back to your desktop.
The force feedback is terrible and canned like all Spring effects. It's
either on or off. And, if you can believe this, there are no steering
adjustments. With my kids' TM wheel, it was so jumpy that it was hard to
steer. It wasn't as bad with a Ferrari wheel. Still, you expect some kind of
adjustments to be available.
The sounds were about the only bright spot. Just better than average. The
navigator was hard to understand. After one terrible crash, I looked over at
him (and saw in the replay) and his head was just*** down. When I
started driving again, his head was still***, but bobbing up and down
and he wasn't speaking anymore. Oh God, I think I killed him.
It's a terrible game that's full of potential.

--
Slot

Tweaks & Reviews
www.slottweak.com


John Metco

RALLY XTREME / RALLY 2002

by John Metco » Fri, 01 Feb 2002 11:42:44

hi deroy

when I read your post, I almost fell off my chair
Because having played "Q network Rally championship"
( ***y long title )
 and RC2000,
I enjoyed this game and found lots of features that I
wanted over RC2000.

Let me now do a brief review and perhaps you might
re-consider:

Firstly, no the game is NOT BY MAGNETIC FIELDS.
it is a first simulation by WARTHOG  or some british
pig farmer etc.
Published by Actualise.

However it says " this is the 6th in the Rally
Championship series "....
that misled me to assume Magnetic Fields involvement.

PHYSICS
---------------------------
ONe of the greatest achievement is the physic of
traction GRIPPING,
pulling the car under power, it reaaally feels like the
REAL THING !
The car slides and then achieve traction and suddenly
tucks in under power,
much like what we see on TV coverage of the REAL THING.
( I think this is a first for any rally game )

however the car has only damage to the front and rear,
no side damage
or dents (??).
Damaged bonnets and bumper hangs and bobs up, down
in-tune to the
car movement. ( I just love this , it looks so real )

BUT GETTING too far off the road and weird things
happen.
so dont try the cliff, valley, rivers.
BERMUDA triangles abound there.

Road is wider enough for all your handbrake turn
antics , you can really go wild ( though not faster ).

FEATURES
---------------------------------
REPLAYS could not be saved now, maybe a patch ???
soon??
REPLAY ANGLES tend to have a lot of overhead view
which does not show-off the car EXCELLENT PHYSICS.
but when it does work well, it really show off the
game.

No DEADZONE for controllers to be adjusted in game.
I had no problem but forsee some players might find the
controller
too twichy.

SEMI-AUTOMATIC gearbox was available in the RC 2000
game.
but this game allow only full auto or manual.

it has a VEEEERY IRRITATING  PACE-CAR as a default.
( user removable )

24 tracks, 20 cars, horrendous menu music,
( why does racing games need such horrendous music ? )

SOUNDS
------------------------------------
SOUND LEVELS between track side view and in car view
is TOO GREAT.
One moment there is eerie silence while the car is
coming over
the hill and next the get "neighbours-screaming" level
for the in-car view.

In car sounds are very detailed ( sfx setting
highest ).

GRAPHIC
-------------------------
A mile and a half  ( 1 1/2 ) better than RC2000.
but it default to a high setting , so you need FRAPS
and gradually set them down to a level of comfort.
I got 19 fps on bonnet view.
Replays at 36 fps.

800 x 600 x 16bit, looks great. ( for a TNT 16mb card )

It has a "driver-head" view in which the view sort of
move
like a natural driver would ie look into the bend, not
just straight ahead.

In car detail excellent, wires showing, gadget galore
( non functional ).
World around has great details , ( Need for speed
style )

"...For any product support queries please feel free to
contact Actualize via
the Rally Championship Xtreme website."

where is the email address boys ? only fax or phone
numbers !!
hello, this is earth year 2002.


me to review on SGN but
and not much had been
wondering if I should
run. With a V5500 or
center and driver) Finally,
"no agp acceleration
Once you start a run, you
back to your desktop.
Spring effects. It's
you expect some kind of
better than average. The
crash, I looked over at
hanging down. When I
but bobbing up and down

> and he wasn't speaking anymore. Oh God, I think I
killed him.
> It's a terrible game that's full of potential.

> --
> Slot

> Tweaks & Reviews
> www.slottweak.com



> > hi

> > anyone tried this game ?
> > it is the latest of the Rally championship series /
> > Europress /Magnetics.

> > Very interesting and good physics ( if you keep to
the
> > road )
> > but sounds are a bit off.

> > Graphics are much improved over the RS2000 but so
> > features
> > like saving replay etc are gone.

> > so far no much has been publicised about the game
> > and the website www.rallychampionshipxtreme.com
> > has not been updated for some time.

David G Fishe

RALLY XTREME / RALLY 2002

by David G Fishe » Fri, 01 Feb 2002 12:07:28

MF doesn't exist anymore. I don't know what happened.

David G Fisher


> David,

> You keep saying that.  Has MF done a rally-based follow-up to RC?

> --Steve



> > Magnetic Fileds did not do this game. Completely different developer.

> > David G Fisher



> > > hi

> > > anyone tried this game ?
> > > it is the latest of the Rally championship series /
> > > Europress /Magnetics.

> > > Very interesting and good physics ( if you keep to the
> > > road )
> > > but sounds are a bit off.

> > > Graphics are much improved over the RS2000 but so
> > > features
> > > like saving replay etc are gone.

> > > so far no much has been publicised about the game
> > > and the website www.rallychampionshipxtreme.com
> > > has not been updated for some time.

Stephen Smit

RALLY XTREME / RALLY 2002

by Stephen Smit » Fri, 01 Feb 2002 13:12:59

Thx fir the gen, David.  I really liked their work.



> MF doesn't exist anymore. I don't know what happened.

> David G Fisher



> > David,

> > You keep saying that.  Has MF done a rally-based follow-up to RC?

> > --Steve



> > > Magnetic Fileds did not do this game. Completely different developer.

> > > David G Fisher



> > > > hi

> > > > anyone tried this game ?
> > > > it is the latest of the Rally championship series /
> > > > Europress /Magnetics.

> > > > Very interesting and good physics ( if you keep to the
> > > > road )
> > > > but sounds are a bit off.

> > > > Graphics are much improved over the RS2000 but so
> > > > features
> > > > like saving replay etc are gone.

> > > > so far no much has been publicised about the game
> > > > and the website www.rallychampionshipxtreme.com
> > > > has not been updated for some time.

Marc Collin

RALLY XTREME / RALLY 2002

by Marc Collin » Sat, 02 Feb 2002 01:40:58

Most reports I have read said simply that this was a ***arcade title, not
the next in the line after Mobil 1 RC2000, but more like a side-step like
International Rally Championship was (between Network Q and RC2000).  IRC
had improved graphics, etc., over Network Q, but overall was crap.

Even the physics in RC2000 are barely passable, but the stages and graphics
are well done, so it provides some pleasure that way.

Are you saying the physics in this are better than CMR2 and RC2000 and Rally
Masters?  And the graphics are better?  Is there a demo somewhere that
reflects this?

Marc


> hi deroy

> when I read your post, I almost fell off my chair
> Because having played "Q network Rally championship"
> ( ***y long title )
>  and RC2000,
> I enjoyed this game and found lots of features that I
> wanted over RC2000.

> Let me now do a brief review and perhaps you might
> re-consider:

> Firstly, no the game is NOT BY MAGNETIC FIELDS.
> it is a first simulation by WARTHOG  or some british
> pig farmer etc.
> Published by Actualise.

> However it says " this is the 6th in the Rally
> Championship series "....
> that misled me to assume Magnetic Fields involvement.

> PHYSICS
> ---------------------------
> ONe of the greatest achievement is the physic of
> traction GRIPPING,
> pulling the car under power, it reaaally feels like the
> REAL THING !
> The car slides and then achieve traction and suddenly
> tucks in under power,
> much like what we see on TV coverage of the REAL THING.
> ( I think this is a first for any rally game )

> however the car has only damage to the front and rear,
> no side damage
> or dents (??).
> Damaged bonnets and bumper hangs and bobs up, down
> in-tune to the
> car movement. ( I just love this , it looks so real )

> BUT GETTING too far off the road and weird things
> happen.
> so dont try the cliff, valley, rivers.
> BERMUDA triangles abound there.

> Road is wider enough for all your handbrake turn
> antics , you can really go wild ( though not faster ).

> FEATURES
> ---------------------------------
> REPLAYS could not be saved now, maybe a patch ???
> soon??
> REPLAY ANGLES tend to have a lot of overhead view
> which does not show-off the car EXCELLENT PHYSICS.
> but when it does work well, it really show off the
> game.

> No DEADZONE for controllers to be adjusted in game.
> I had no problem but forsee some players might find the
> controller
> too twichy.

> SEMI-AUTOMATIC gearbox was available in the RC 2000
> game.
> but this game allow only full auto or manual.

> it has a VEEEERY IRRITATING  PACE-CAR as a default.
> ( user removable )

> 24 tracks, 20 cars, horrendous menu music,
> ( why does racing games need such horrendous music ? )

> SOUNDS
> ------------------------------------
> SOUND LEVELS between track side view and in car view
> is TOO GREAT.
> One moment there is eerie silence while the car is
> coming over
> the hill and next the get "neighbours-screaming" level
> for the in-car view.

> In car sounds are very detailed ( sfx setting
> highest ).

> GRAPHIC
> -------------------------
> A mile and a half  ( 1 1/2 ) better than RC2000.
> but it default to a high setting , so you need FRAPS
> and gradually set them down to a level of comfort.
> I got 19 fps on bonnet view.
> Replays at 36 fps.

> 800 x 600 x 16bit, looks great. ( for a TNT 16mb card )

> It has a "driver-head" view in which the view sort of
> move
> like a natural driver would ie look into the bend, not
> just straight ahead.

> In car detail excellent, wires showing, gadget galore
> ( non functional ).
> World around has great details , ( Need for speed
> style )

> "...For any product support queries please feel free to
> contact Actualize via
> the Rally Championship Xtreme website."

> where is the email address boys ? only fax or phone
> numbers !!
> hello, this is earth year 2002.



> > The game is a dud. It' by Actualize. It was sent to
> me to review on SGN but
> > since it's a few months old, not very good at all,
> and not much had been
> > said about it, we decided not to do the review. I was
> wondering if I should
> > anyway just as a warning.
> > It tried 3 computers before I could even get it to
> run. With a V5500 or
> > V3000 the graphics were completely washed out (almost
> white) once you got
> > past the hood. (yes, there are 2***pit views,
> center and driver) Finally,
> > with the Radeon 8500 I got it to go past the warning
> "no agp acceleration
> > detected".
> > The graphics are old looking except for the shine on
> the cars, but even
> > worse, they're a resource hog. Lousy frame rates.
> Once you start a run, you
> > can't stop it except for hitting 'alt-F4'  and going
> back to your desktop.
> > The force feedback is terrible and canned like all
> Spring effects. It's
> > either on or off. And, if you can believe this, there
> are no steering
> > adjustments. With my kids' TM wheel, it was so jumpy
> that it was hard to
> > steer. It wasn't as bad with a Ferrari wheel. Still,
> you expect some kind of
> > adjustments to be available.
> > The sounds were about the only bright spot. Just
> better than average. The
> > navigator was hard to understand. After one terrible
> crash, I looked over at
> > him (and saw in the replay) and his head was just
>*** down. When I
> > started driving again, his head was still***,
> but bobbing up and down
> > and he wasn't speaking anymore. Oh God, I think I
> killed him.
> > It's a terrible game that's full of potential.

> > --
> > Slot

> > Tweaks & Reviews
> > www.slottweak.com



> > > hi

> > > anyone tried this game ?
> > > it is the latest of the Rally championship series /
> > > Europress /Magnetics.

> > > Very interesting and good physics ( if you keep to
> the
> > > road )
> > > but sounds are a bit off.

> > > Graphics are much improved over the RS2000 but so
> > > features
> > > like saving replay etc are gone.

> > > so far no much has been publicised about the game
> > > and the website www.rallychampionshipxtreme.com
> > > has not been updated for some time.

John Metco

RALLY XTREME / RALLY 2002

by John Metco » Sat, 02 Feb 2002 11:44:13

hi Marc

PHYSICS
---------------------

RC2000 out of the box has some flaws
BUT IT DID ALLOW users to adjust parameters
THAT MADE the differences and I was able to improve on
it
like:

previously you could use the grass to slow down the
car,
put a wheel off and you could take the corner without
braking.
I adjusted that to slippery and the car mishandled on
grass
and glides over them.

RCX ( Xtreme ) do not come with that
"grass-assisted-brake"
and you slide and find grips in-between the gaps on the
road.
( this you really need to see in the replay, very much
like the
TV coverage, car slips , slides and then grips )
the car "cataputs" when it finds the grip ( WRX, EVO
7 )
TO ME, this is what I was looking for, the CORRUPTED
AND OVERWHELMING POWER of turbo rally cars.

OVERALL , RC and RCX physics are quite comparable.
Running bonnet to bonnet view of these 2 games
I did not feel like it is 2 different games.
( again only when within the road area , bear this in
mind
for all things that I mentioned )

Another thing that I really enjoyed with RCX is that
you
have plenty of area to slide,  full blown
COUNTERSTEER slide , using sideway slide into
the corner are the stuff of WorldRallyChampionship.
( in fairness, RC2000 was british rally with narrow
roads )

I was looking for CM2 but found this RCX instead
So I can't comment of CM2.

RCX has its problems
but while you keep the car near the road / path
it is fun and very enjoyable without being
arcade.

Graphics are better and less grainy than RC2000.
I ran  800 x 600 x 16bit on both on my TNT / cel450 .
ave 19~26fps with tuned down graphics.

of the 2, RCX has better sense of speed,
something they did with the peripheral vision.

MY STYLE
--------------------------
maybe I should also mention that
I DO NOT DRIVE FLAT OUT for the entire course
and I brake heavily into corners.
I do my best to behave like a real life driver.

I use joystick and plays GPL, N4, needforporsche,
F12000,
SBK2001 and love Screamer2.

"Marc Collins" <marc_coll...@sympatico.ca> wrote in
message
news:Hoe68.30685$9y2.3064913@news20.bellglobal.com...

> Most reports I have read said simply that this was a

crap arcade title, not
> the next in the line after Mobil 1 RC2000, but more

like a side-step like
> International Rally Championship was (between Network
Q and RC2000).  IRC
> had improved graphics, etc., over Network Q, but
overall was crap.

> Even the physics in RC2000 are barely passable, but

the stages and graphics
> are well done, so it provides some pleasure that way.

> Are you saying the physics in this are better than

CMR2 and RC2000 and Rally
> Masters?  And the graphics are better?  Is there a
demo somewhere that
> reflects this?

> Marc

> "John Metcow" <J...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3c58b05d@news.starhub.net.sg...
> > hi deroy

> > when I read your post, I almost fell off my chair
> > Because having played "Q network Rally
championship"
> > ( bloody long title )
> >  and RC2000,
> > I enjoyed this game and found lots of features that
I
> > wanted over RC2000.

> > Let me now do a brief review and perhaps you might
> > re-consider:

> > Firstly, no the game is NOT BY MAGNETIC FIELDS.
> > it is a first simulation by WARTHOG  or some
british
> > pig farmer etc.
> > Published by Actualise.

> > However it says " this is the 6th in the Rally
> > Championship series "....
> > that misled me to assume Magnetic Fields
involvement.

> > PHYSICS
> > ---------------------------
> > ONe of the greatest achievement is the physic of
> > traction GRIPPING,
> > pulling the car under power, it reaaally feels like
the
> > REAL THING !
> > The car slides and then achieve traction and
suddenly
> > tucks in under power,
> > much like what we see on TV coverage of the REAL
THING.
> > ( I think this is a first for any rally game )

> > however the car has only damage to the front and
rear,
> > no side damage
> > or dents (??).
> > Damaged bonnets and bumper hangs and bobs up, down
> > in-tune to the
> > car movement. ( I just love this , it looks so
real )

> > BUT GETTING too far off the road and weird things
> > happen.
> > so dont try the cliff, valley, rivers.
> > BERMUDA triangles abound there.

> > Road is wider enough for all your handbrake turn
> > antics , you can really go wild ( though not
faster ).

> > FEATURES
> > ---------------------------------
> > REPLAYS could not be saved now, maybe a patch ???
> > soon??
> > REPLAY ANGLES tend to have a lot of overhead view
> > which does not show-off the car EXCELLENT PHYSICS.
> > but when it does work well, it really show off the
> > game.

> > No DEADZONE for controllers to be adjusted in game.
> > I had no problem but forsee some players might find
the
> > controller
> > too twichy.

> > SEMI-AUTOMATIC gearbox was available in the RC 2000
> > game.
> > but this game allow only full auto or manual.

> > it has a VEEEERY IRRITATING  PACE-CAR as a default.
> > ( user removable )

> > 24 tracks, 20 cars, horrendous menu music,
> > ( why does racing games need such horrendous music
? )

> > SOUNDS
> > ------------------------------------
> > SOUND LEVELS between track side view and in car
view
> > is TOO GREAT.
> > One moment there is eerie silence while the car is
> > coming over
> > the hill and next the get "neighbours-screaming"
level
> > for the in-car view.

> > In car sounds are very detailed ( sfx setting
> > highest ).

> > GRAPHIC
> > -------------------------
> > A mile and a half  ( 1 1/2 ) better than RC2000.
> > but it default to a high setting , so you need
FRAPS
> > and gradually set them down to a level of comfort.
> > I got 19 fps on bonnet view.
> > Replays at 36 fps.

> > 800 x 600 x 16bit, looks great. ( for a TNT 16mb
card )

> > It has a "driver-head" view in which the view sort
of
> > move
> > like a natural driver would ie look into the bend,
not
> > just straight ahead.

> > In car detail excellent, wires showing, gadget
galore
> > ( non functional ).
> > World around has great details , ( Need for speed
> > style )

> > "...For any product support queries please feel
free to
> > contact Actualize via
> > the Rally Championship Xtreme website."

> > where is the email address boys ? only fax or phone
> > numbers !!
> > hello, this is earth year 2002.

> > "GTX_SlotCar" <de...@maine.rr.com> wrote in message

news:TWT58.16652$zJ3.1215795@typhoon.maine.rr.com...

- Show quoted text -

> > > The game is a dud. It' by Actualize. It was sent
to
> > me to review on SGN but
> > > since it's a few months old, not very good at
all,
> > and not much had been
> > > said about it, we decided not to do the review. I
was
> > wondering if I should
> > > anyway just as a warning.
> > > It tried 3 computers before I could even get it
to
> > run. With a V5500 or
> > > V3000 the graphics were completely washed out
(almost
> > white) once you got
> > > past the hood. (yes, there are 2 cockpit views,
> > center and driver) Finally,
> > > with the Radeon 8500 I got it to go past the
warning
> > "no agp acceleration
> > > detected".
> > > The graphics are old looking except for the shine
on
> > the cars, but even
> > > worse, they're a resource hog. Lousy frame rates.
> > Once you start a run, you
> > > can't stop it except for hitting 'alt-F4'  and
going
> > back to your desktop.
> > > The force feedback is terrible and canned like
all
> > Spring effects. It's
> > > either on or off. And, if you can believe this,
there
> > are no steering
> > > adjustments. With my kids' TM wheel, it was so
jumpy
> > that it was hard to
> > > steer. It wasn't as bad with a Ferrari wheel.
Still,
> > you expect some kind of
> > > adjustments to be available.
> > > The sounds were about the only bright spot. Just
> > better than average. The
> > > navigator was hard to understand. After one
terrible
> > crash, I looked over at
> > > him (and saw in the replay) and his head was just
> > hanging down. When I
> > > started driving again, his head was still
hanging,
> > but bobbing up and down
> > > and he wasn't speaking anymore. Oh God, I think I
> > killed him.
> > > It's a terrible game that's full of potential.

> > > --
> > > Slot

> > > Tweaks & Reviews
> > > www.slottweak.com

> > > "John Metcow" <J...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3c579c40@news.starhub.net.sg...
> > > > hi

> > > > anyone tried this game ?
> > > > it is the latest of the Rally championship
series /
> > > > Europress /Magnetics.

> > > > Very interesting and good physics ( if you keep
to
> > the
> > > > road )
> > > > but sounds are a bit off.

> > > > Graphics are much improved over the RS2000 but
so
> > > > features
> > > > like saving replay etc are gone.

> > > > so far no much has been publicised about the
game
> > > > and the website www.rallychampionshipxtreme.com
> > > > has not been updated for some time.

GTX_SlotCa

RALLY XTREME / RALLY 2002

by GTX_SlotCa » Sun, 03 Feb 2002 01:18:59

John, please read a little humor and a big grin in this.

Ah, shoot.  I thought you almost fell out of your chair because of what I
said about killing the navigator.

Well, I guess all games have physics, but I certainly wouldn't compare this
to CMR2

The windows break, if that can be considered side damage. Yes, the***
bumper is a nice effect, but pound it as hard and often as you can and it
never comes off. I gotta get one of these cars for my wife! She could use it
when she's not flying around on her broom.

There is one short cut you can take that brings you to a tilted flat-bed
trailer. Jump it and you land perfectly on the track without missing any
check points. My 7 yr. old boy found it after playing the game for 15
minutes. Of course, he's only 7, but he likes the game even though it
doesn't steer well with his wheel and the graphics are all washed out on his
computer.

In fact, there are no in-game controller adjustments at all. This is just
unforgivable. It works with your joystick because joysticks are non-linear.
If you race using a wheel, expect the steering to be twitchy, or count
yourself lucky. Also, pray the phone doens't ring during a run because
there's no way to pause or stop during game play except 'Alt-F4', which gets
you out of the game and back to your desktop. Again, simply unforgivable.
What in the world were they think of by leaving out these things? Oh, no
force feedback adjustments, either. Not that it matters much. Force feedback
effects are no better than the rest of the game.

The Ghost car was almost always way behind me, so it didn't matter much
whether or not I left him on. I would have thought that, at least during my
first 2 or 3 runs, the car could beat me.

It looks like a joystick and old video card are the way to play this game ;)
The graphics sure weren't great with my V5500 or Radeon 8500.

Ya, I was going to contact them about the loading problems and couldn't find
an email address either.

That's exactly my point for the whole game. It was released in 2001 and I
certainly expect more from any recent game.

There's more I could have complained about. When I loaded it on my kids'
computer, it only saw it as a music cd (which wouldn't play). Nothing's ever
done that before. Our computers are networked, so I loaded it from my cdrw.
It wouldn't load from my dvd-rom (even after washing it properly). I got the
game from another SGN reviewer because it wouldn't load on his computer.
It's not the condition of the cd as far as I know, it's just fussy.

I could just go on and on and on........ (oh, I already have ;)

I'm glad you enjoy the game, John. There's another title out called "Spirit
of Speed, 1937" that you might want to try out.
 (J/K gents)

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John Metco

RALLY XTREME / RALLY 2002

by John Metco » Sun, 03 Feb 2002 12:56:16

HI

here's point by point reply

1) yes most rally drivers kill their navigator after
the 3rd corner
for misreading it. So this is realistic.
Dead navigator head bobs up and down with every hump.
it is rather realistic bobbing ,  don't you  think ?
:=)

2) damaged bumper came off rather easily.
NOW, I AM BEGINNING TO HAVE SOME QUESTION about your
version
of THE game  ???

In fact, after reading your post I went back to check
and found
that FRONT WHEEL can come off too.......WOW
so far only managed to get ONE OF THE FRONT wheel off.
bonnet too, rear bumper, both front and rear lights.

3) THERE IS A WAY TO PAUSE the game and it is in the
manual.
???? serious question here ???
option to continue, abort and quite the game.

4) a game that looks good on an old video card usually
looks even
better on a new video card, which is the reason for
upgrading.
Would you say ???


chair because of what I
wouldn't compare this
damage. Yes, the***
often as you can and it
wife! She could use it
to a tilted flat-bed
are all washed out on his
at all. This is just
joysticks are non-linear.
during a run because
except 'Alt-F4', which gets
simply unforgivable.
these things? Oh, no
matters much. Force feedback
that, at least during my
way to play this game ;)
problems and couldn't find
released in 2001 and I
loaded it on my kids'
wouldn't play). Nothing's ever
loaded it from my cdrw.
it properly). I got the
load on his computer.
title out called "Spirit

centra

RALLY XTREME / RALLY 2002

by centra » Wed, 06 Feb 2002 14:00:33

Hey John,
I found the pause/quit control. The 1st time I read the manual I just
glanced at the Car Controls portion because it looked like, well, keyboard
commands for the car control. You know, left arrow, right arrow.... I didn't
expect to find the game controls in that section.
No side damage. I thought the windows broke, but that was on Rally Trophy. I
can make the bumper fall off, but not without the hood. So far, anyway, it's
been all or nothing.

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Slot

Tweaks & Reviews
www.slottweak.com


> HI

> here's point by point reply

> 1) yes most rally drivers kill their navigator after
> the 3rd corner
> for misreading it. So this is realistic.
> Dead navigator head bobs up and down with every hump.
> it is rather realistic bobbing ,  don't you  think ?
> :=)

> 2) damaged bumper came off rather easily.
> NOW, I AM BEGINNING TO HAVE SOME QUESTION about your
> version
> of THE game  ???

> In fact, after reading your post I went back to check
> and found
> that FRONT WHEEL can come off too.......WOW
> so far only managed to get ONE OF THE FRONT wheel off.
> bonnet too, rear bumper, both front and rear lights.

> 3) THERE IS A WAY TO PAUSE the game and it is in the
> manual.
> ???? serious question here ???
> option to continue, abort and quite the game.

> 4) a game that looks good on an old video card usually
> looks even
> better on a new video card, which is the reason for
> upgrading.
> Would you say ???



> > John, please read a little humor and a big grin in
> this.

> > > when I read your post, I almost fell off my chair
> > > Because having played "Q network Rally
> championship"
> > > ( ***y long title )
> > >  and RC2000,
> > > I enjoyed this game and found lots of features that
> I
> > > wanted over RC2000.

> > Ah, shoot.  I thought you almost fell out of your
> chair because of what I
> > said about killing the navigator.

> > > PHYSICS

> > Well, I guess all games have physics, but I certainly
> wouldn't compare this
> > to CMR2

> > > however the car has only damage to the front and
> rear,
> > > no side damage
> > > or dents (??).
> > > Damaged bonnets and bumper hangs and bobs up, down
> > > in-tune to the
> > > car movement. ( I just love this , it looks so
> real )

> > The windows break, if that can be considered side
> damage. Yes, the***
> > bumper is a nice effect, but pound it as hard and
> often as you can and it
> > never comes off. I gotta get one of these cars for my
> wife! She could use it
> > when she's not flying around on her broom.

> > > BUT GETTING too far off the road and weird things
> > > happen.

> > There is one short cut you can take that brings you
> to a tilted flat-bed
> > trailer. Jump it and you land perfectly on the track
> without missing any
> > check points. My 7 yr. old boy found it after playing
> the game for 15
> > minutes. Of course, he's only 7, but he likes the
> game even though it
> > doesn't steer well with his wheel and the graphics
> are all washed out on his
> > computer.

> > > No DEADZONE for controllers to be adjusted in game.
> > > I had no problem but forsee some players might find
> the
> > > controller too twichy.

> > In fact, there are no in-game controller adjustments
> at all. This is just
> > unforgivable. It works with your joystick because
> joysticks are non-linear.
> > If you race using a wheel, expect the steering to be
> twitchy, or count
> > yourself lucky. Also, pray the phone doens't ring
> during a run because
> > there's no way to pause or stop during game play
> except 'Alt-F4', which gets
> > you out of the game and back to your desktop. Again,
> simply unforgivable.
> > What in the world were they think of by leaving out
> these things? Oh, no
> > force feedback adjustments, either. Not that it
> matters much. Force feedback
> > effects are no better than the rest of the game.

> > > it has a VEEEERY IRRITATING  PACE-CAR as a default.
> > > ( user removable )

> > The Ghost car was almost always way behind me, so it
> didn't matter much
> > whether or not I left him on. I would have thought
> that, at least during my
> > first 2 or 3 runs, the car could beat me.

> > > GRAPHIC
> > > -------------------------
> > > A mile and a half  ( 1 1/2 ) better than RC2000.
> > > (snipe)
> > > 800 x 600 x 16bit, looks great. ( for a TNT 16mb
> card )

> > It looks like a joystick and old video card are the
> way to play this game ;)
> > The graphics sure weren't great with my V5500 or
> Radeon 8500.

> > > where is the email address boys ? only fax or phone
> > > numbers !!

> > Ya, I was going to contact them about the loading
> problems and couldn't find
> > an email address either.

> > > hello, this is earth year 2002.

> > That's exactly my point for the whole game. It was
> released in 2001 and I
> > certainly expect more from any recent game.

> > There's more I could have complained about. When I
> loaded it on my kids'
> > computer, it only saw it as a music cd (which
> wouldn't play). Nothing's ever
> > done that before. Our computers are networked, so I
> loaded it from my cdrw.
> > It wouldn't load from my dvd-rom (even after washing
> it properly). I got the
> > game from another SGN reviewer because it wouldn't
> load on his computer.
> > It's not the condition of the cd as far as I know,
> it's just fussy.

> > I could just go on and on and on........ (oh, I
> already have ;)

> > I'm glad you enjoy the game, John. There's another
> title out called "Spirit
> > of Speed, 1937" that you might want to try out.
> >  (J/K gents)

> > --
> > Slot

> > Tweaks & Reviews
> > www.slottweak.com

John Metco

RALLY XTREME / RALLY 2002

by John Metco » Wed, 06 Feb 2002 19:10:35

great !!

actually you should give the game a chance
you were rather quick to judge it

I found more things with the game each day
IE: handbrake and quickly counter steer
into a corner gets you through much better.

only one front wheel get to be taken out
I could not get the second wheel off.

ice tyres are actually shown as such
very skinny tyres !!

Don't forget the GRAPHIC ADVANCE control.
You get a whole lot of framerates adjusting that


like, well, keyboard
right arrow.... I didn't
was on Rally Trophy. I
hood. So far, anyway, it's

> been all or nothing.

> --
> Slot

> Tweaks & Reviews
> www.slottweak.com



> > HI

> > here's point by point reply

> > 1) yes most rally drivers kill their navigator
after
> > the 3rd corner
> > for misreading it. So this is realistic.
> > Dead navigator head bobs up and down with every
hump.
> > it is rather realistic bobbing ,  don't you  think
?
> > :=)

> > 2) damaged bumper came off rather easily.
> > NOW, I AM BEGINNING TO HAVE SOME QUESTION about
your
> > version
> > of THE game  ???

> > In fact, after reading your post I went back to
check
> > and found
> > that FRONT WHEEL can come off too.......WOW
> > so far only managed to get ONE OF THE FRONT wheel
off.
> > bonnet too, rear bumper, both front and rear
lights.

> > 3) THERE IS A WAY TO PAUSE the game and it is in
the
> > manual.
> > ???? serious question here ???
> > option to continue, abort and quite the game.

> > 4) a game that looks good on an old video card
usually
> > looks even
> > better on a new video card, which is the reason for
> > upgrading.
> > Would you say ???




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